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Title: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 18:42 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
Help needed please RE Jannet Heggan appears on 1861 Scottish census as niece born 1844 Stranraer she is with William Radie miss transcribed should be ( Roddick ) b 1787 Ireland I would love to find out how she is connected Williams wife is deceased but her name was Jane/Janet Craig . I can only find one Jane Heggan b 1844 on Familysearch which could fit the bill but again I need help. She is married to Robert Bell showing birth of daughter Leslie R Bell 1888 New Jersey looks like immigrated 1867 possible naturalisation that year first child Agnes Bell born scotland 1864 I have searched for marriage in Scotland 1864 but I cannot find anything as this would give me parents names. Also searched for her birth. Any help most appreciated.
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 19 January 16 19:37 GMT (UK)
Irret, been such a long time  :-* Good to see that you are still following through on William Walker and family!

Have you still got access to the US material?  1900 shows Jane as being born in Ireland to Irish parents. Given all the connections to Ireland for the Roddicks, not surpring really...

Robert Bell and Jane show as having married on this census in 1867. Can't see Agnes in this, was she in 1880?

1900:

Robert Bell 55 b. Scotland, Farmer
Jane Bell 53 b. Ireland
Alexander J Bell 29 b. Pennsylvania
Irene J Bell 15 b. Pennsylvania
Leslie Bell 11 b. Winslow, Camden, New Jersey

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica, Yes he is still tormenting me. No I don't have US access but Family search show 1880/1890 as born Scotland but I do agree with you the Irish connection is there, wondered if William Roddick had a sister who married a Heggan? Or she may not be a niece as William wasn't a nephew. Margaret wasn't at home in 1851 so when William appeared on the scene it was probably easier to say he was a nephew of course the connection could be with Jane/Jannet Craig.
Hope you are all well x
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:12 GMT (UK)
The birth of Leslie R Bell could this be Leslie (Roddick) Bell 1888 New Jersey mother Jane Heggan born Scotland
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: GR2 on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:16 GMT (UK)
Jane and Janet were not really interchangeable names in Scotland. At that time nephew and niece were still sometimes used in their older sense of grandson and granddaughter. If you found the 1864 birth certificate, it would tell you when and where the parents married.
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:23 GMT (UK)
Many thanks GR2 .
1880 census

Jane Bell
Age:   35
Birth Year:   abt 1845
Birthplace:   Scotland
Home in 1880:   MT Laffee, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania
Race:   White
Gender:   Female
Relation to Head of House:   Wife
Marital Status:   Married
Spouse's Name:   Robert Bell
Father's Birthplace:   Scotland
Mother's Birthplace:   Scotland

Robert Bell   38
Jane Bell   35
Agnes Bell   15 Scotland
Margrett Bell   13
Alexandria Bell   11
James Bell   7
Grace Bell   1
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:25 GMT (UK)
1870 Census
Robert Bell
Age in 1870   27
Birth Year   abt 1843
Birthplace   Scotland
Home in 1870   Pottsville North East Ward, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania
Robert Bell   27
Jane Bell   24
Agnes Bell   6
Margt Bell   4
Alexander Bell   1
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 19 January 16 22:02 GMT (UK)
Jane, wife of Robert, looks to have died between 1900 and 1910:

Robert Bell 65 widower farmer b. Ireland
Leslie Bell 21
Mabel Bell 19 wife
Meliss Bell 0 granddaughter

Here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKT8-RF1

Monica  :)

PS: Irret, we know how hard it is to find NJ vital records online  :-\
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 19 January 16 22:20 GMT (UK)
Quote from: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:25 GMT (UK)
1870 Census
Robert Bell
Age in 1870   27
Birth Year   abt 1843
Birthplace   Scotland
Home in 1870   Pottsville North East Ward, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania
Robert Bell   27
Jane Bell   24
Agnes Bell   6
Margt Bell   4
Alexander Bell   1

Likely Ireland again for futher details?

This looks like a possible birth in  1866 for daughter Margaret above, from 1870, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F556-JT5

Monica
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 19 January 16 22:25 GMT (UK)
Likely marriage for Robert and Jane, in Ireland 1863 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZ7-DYJ

Monica
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 22:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Monica.  ??? ??? ??? Think I might search Scotlandspeople for Roddick/Heggan Craig/Heggan marriages.
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Tuesday 19 January 16 22:37 GMT (UK)
Sorry Monica, didn't see your last post for the marriage Ireland, looks to be a contender.  ???
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 20 January 16 15:23 GMT (UK)
Maybe a sibling to Jane? A marriage for a Mary. Just going by timing, location and father's name https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGCF-GR8

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Jannet Heggan 1844
Post by: irret on Wednesday 20 January 16 16:28 GMT (UK)
Well done, we will get there yet.