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Census Lookups General Lookups => Census and Resource Discussion => Topic started by: Ray T on Wednesday 20 January 16 15:31 GMT (UK)
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I am now a valued customer of FindMyPast and it seems as though I am about to get unlimited free access to the 1939 register from the middle of February until the expiry of my subscription in the middle of June! Glad I've so far resisted paying for the service, to a single property.
Anyone else get a similar email?
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Yes Ray I have just had it too- my reaction ...........bl**dy cheek >:(
I've spent quite a bit looking up various family members
Grrrrrrr....................
Carol
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Yes! I was just about to post that
. We're pleased to let you know that as a valued member of Findmypast from the 16th February 2016, we're giving you unlimited access to our premium record set, the 1939 Register. This is only available at Findmypast, so you'll soon be able to discover names, addresses and occupations of your family in England and Wales on the eve of the Second World War.
Plus they are freezing the price of the subs.
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Snap.
Jebber
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Perhaps now we'll be able to find those missing streets....
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My email was all priced in US$ though ??? ??? ???
I live in the East Midlands ;D
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God, only a couple of days ago I asked not to automatically renew my month sub!
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Haven't had the email yet, hope I get it soon. I've managed to look up a few people with existing credits, but then FindMyPast decided they were going to charge me even though I still have credits left - as well as a subscription, so I stopped searching.
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My email was all priced in US$ though ??? ??? ???
So is mine, but then I did take my sub out in dollars (it was a special offer)
Still i feel sorry for all those who have bought the 1939 register at £6 a go !
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My email was all priced in US$ though ??? ??? ???
I live in the East Midlands ;D
Mines in pounds.
I wonder why they have decided to do this, not enough people buying credits?
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I got the email. I'm told that I am a subscriber from Feb 2016 - I renewed a month ago.
Tried a search for my father and still being asked for credits. So does this start in February?
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That quote I included could be read both ways couldn't it? I read it as the 1939 being included from the 16th Feb. It doesn't make sense otherwise, as I've been a subscriber for years. I think it is just punctuated badly and the comma is in the wrong place!
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Looks it must be from 16 February. Not the clearest communication ever.
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Yes it looks like free access for subscribers starts from 16th feb. Looks like they are also increasing the annual sub price to £119.95. But existing subscribers get a discount when they renew.
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Hhm, not had an email ye. :-\
Has everyone whose had the email been Worldwide subscribers?
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Hhm, not had an email ye. :-\
Has everyone whose had the email been Worldwide subscribers?
no I'm a Britain subscriber and always have been. Although I have bought some credits in the past for the odd record outside Britain.
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Hhm, not had an email ye. :-\
Has everyone whose had the email been Worldwide subscribers?
Don't worry mine has only just arrived, I don't have worldwide ;D
Rosie
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Am I right in reading the email, that the only way to get the lower rate subscription, is to make sure that you have automatically renew ticked?
. Just head over to your account and tick the 'Auto-renew my subscription' box and we'll ensure your price remains the same once your current subscription expires.
That's a bit crafty!
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Thanks Lizzie and Rosie, hopefully it'll appear sometime. I purchased some half price credits but did so under a different email account because I didn't want to use up those I've had for some time and use for looking at NSW Wills when I want one.
Groom, they've always done that with the discounted renewals so not really a change. I actually unticked the autorenewal over Christmas, although its not up until October, as had thought of not auto-renewing and seeing what offers they did next Black Friday.
Mind you, the Britain Subscription was £120 before a renewal discount until the other year anyway and had been higher. When they originally released a Subscription with the 1911 Census included it was about £150.
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Yes, I got my email too so pleased although I have families to hunt in the 1939 at the moment. FindMyPast has the advantage of also having the BNA which I had a subscription to at one time while buying FindMyPast credits; FindMyPast + BNA for one subscription is reasonable value especially as BNA add papers all the time.
Hope RC doesn't get flooded with unfulfillable requests for 1939 lookups ::)
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I've been a subscriber for years renewed in December 2015 but disappointingly have not received this email giving access to the 1939 register. I'll give it till next week and then contact them.
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I only received it in the last hour or so, so I wouldn't start worrying yet.
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It's to be hoped they are set up for the flood of corrections. I know of several already without having purchased any credits, so goodness only knows what I might find when I start looking in anger. Also, I expect things might collapse on 16 February if past experience is anything to go by. Maybe this free weekend will be a good test for them re capacity and site stability.
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I haven't looked at the register yet, I decided to put it on hold for a while as I'm busy on another project. I'm glad I did as I have also had the message free from 16 Feb - Hurray
Carol
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Yes, I got this email today too.
Good news, and what I think at least some of us were expecting. It's the same as they did with the 1911 census, though it feels like it's happened more quickly this time.
I bought a lot of pay-per-view 1911 census records as they contained lots of information I didn't otherwise have. However, I held off buying any 1939 register records, as I knew it all anyway for immediate families to the first/second cousin level, in the expectation that it would eventually be included in the subscription, when I'd look up all the hundreds of more distant relations.
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I got the email earlier today, having taken advantage of a bargain to convert to World, and as a result of a free weekend (but not for 1939 Register) due soon I will get 3 days added to my renewal date.
I think I'm going to be busy. :D
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No email received as yet but FindMyPast have announced it on their facebook page.
"We're pleased to announce that from 16th February, the 1939 Register will be made available to 12 month Britain and World subscribers as part of their existing packages. If you buy a Britain or World 12 month subscription from the 16th onward, the Register will be included for free."
I have used credits to find people on the register, but I already had those so didn't need to actually purchase any.
Also found that an incorrect transcription which I reported has been corrected already. They do seem to be working hard, even though some people obviously think not.
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So, presumably that means anyone who buys a month's subscription still pays for the 1939? Perhaps it is to encourage more people to buy an annual subscription. I just upgraded mine to World recently taking advantage of one of their offers.
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I treated myself to some credits as a Christmas present. I have a list of individuals I have located so far in the free search. My list of people I can't find is even longer. At least I can go and eliminate possible matches once it is free and hopefully it will improve the indexes as well in the future.
Regards panda
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God, only a couple of days ago I asked not to automatically renew my month sub!
It applies to annual UK and World subs only
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My email was all priced in US$ though ??? ??? ???
So is mine, but then I did take my sub out in dollars (it was a special offer)
Still i feel sorry for all those who have bought the 1939 register at £6 a go !
I don't, really they have just been paying a premium for early access. I suppose if they've bulk bought credits that would be annoying, but complaining that they have paid when others will get it for free is a bit much. People pay premiums for early access for variety of things. It doesn't surprise me they've decided to include it in the sub, or putting the sub up to compensate - it does that they've offered a price freeze to existing members plus a 10% loyalty bonus on top. Maybe they've realised it makes sense to try and retain existing subscribers.
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just received this email
"We’re pleased to let you know that as a valued member of Findmypast from the 16th February 2016, we’re giving you unlimited access to our premium record set, the 1939 Register. This is only available at Findmypast, so you’ll soon be able to discover even more names, addresses and occupations of people in England and Wales on the eve of the Second World War"
does this apply to all
leka
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That's the email we are discussing. Looks as if it applies to annual subscriptions only, not monthly.
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My email arrived at18.34 so I shall look forward to the 16 February.
The entry for my grandparents intrigues me at first the index showed just my grandparents and 2 people who were closed. One I knew would be my father but the other was presumably his brother but as he was born in August 1915 he should have been open. When they opened a load more earlier this year my father who died in 1993 was now open but his brother born August 1915 and died the same month in 1993 is still closed! Maybe by February he'll be open too!
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I have not had one :'( I am an annual subscriber.... ???
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California dreamin,
If they are sending the email out to everybody they may send out the bulk email in stages to prevent it being seen as spam by the big email providers.
So people will get their emails at different times.
Trystan
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Cheers Trystan - yes, that makes sense.
I am pleased they are doing this and don't want to be left out :)
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Oh so pleased, my sub runs out at the end of Feb, so just enough time to get those 1939 details. ;D
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Well I really hope they don't leave you out now. :) Give it a couple of days I'd say.
Trystan
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I also have received the email : Worldwide Subscriber.
I felt when the records first came out that it should be included as part of the package. I have not purchased any 1939 Records yet but may now have a browse. Most of my records are Australian at that point and the pertinent ones are Scottish which aren't included. So its not as if it has been a brickwall smasher for me.
I do feel sorry for those of you who have paid over the odds.
I am also slightly confused as to the extended subscription - but then again I am yet to have my 1st coffee :D
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I also had an email today but I'm a little confused! All my info comes from FindMyPast.ie yet I'm in England and paid my world wide sub in £! I took advantage of the great offer that came out in US $ and it was added to my existing one and now I'm signed up until 2017!
BUT will I get to use the free 1939 info having paid in $?
Any thoughts would be great as I'm not at all sure what will happen.
Caroline
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Doesn't your email say "we are giving you unlimited access to ... The 1939 Register" in the first line?
Can't see why the currency you used to purchase your subscription should make any difference to that
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I purchased an el cheapo sub for a month - ending on the 15th Feb. Free access to the 1939 register starts on the 16th. ::) Typical ....
That's the email we are discussing. Looks as if it applies to annual subscriptions only, not monthly.
I have only ever subscribed for the odd month here and there, and I received the email.
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Ruskie, the free access only applies to annual subs, not monthly ones.
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Thanks Smudwhisk, I just discovered that 2 minutes ago in the Lost Cousins newsletter. :)
(I receive so many emails from FindMyPast that I tend not to bother reading them, hence missing the important fact about access to annual subscribers only)
Presumably they are sending the email to everyone who has ever subscribed to FindMyPast in the hope that this will persuade them to take up an annual subscription.
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To use the American Vernacular I would say that possibly the 1939 Register is "hurting". Possibly quite a few people have exhausted their need for the site. I have used it and am very pleased with the results.
Ps. I have a partial knowledge of the Australian Language and Cockney Rhyming Slang but am far from fluent in either.
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Hi,
Well I received my email after I got back from Stafford archives yesterday and I've changed to automatic renew.
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I can't afford to take up an annual sub so only buy monthly and that's a bit hit and miss, I've just looked at my account and at the moment I'm on a world wide monthly but that was because I got it half price. So it looks like this will only be available to people who can afford to cough up for an annual subscription, what about those of us who can't? :'( :'( :'(
(I also subscribe to Ancestry monthly and have a 3 month sub left with The Genealogist)
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I wonder if local library services who give access to FindMyPast will now be able the 1939 register to their users? Might be worth checking out
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I can't afford to take up an annual sub so only buy monthly and that's a bit hit and miss, I've just looked at my account and at the moment I'm on a world wide monthly but that was because I got it half price. So it looks like this will only be available to people who can afford to cough up for an annual subscription, what about those of us who can't? :'( :'( :'(
(I also subscribe to Ancestry monthly and have a 3 month sub left with The Genealogist)
Bee, I assume you purchased a 4 month thegenealogist subscription for £40? FindMyPast have had numerous half price 12 month Britain or World subs in the last year or so. Admittedly more World recently than Britain, but there was a Britain offer recently too which was only £10 more than the offer of 4 months for thegenealogist and far better value in my personal opinion.
At some point, as with the 1911 Census, the 1939 Register will probably get added to monthly subs but was never likely to happen at the start because, at the very least, of the numerous £1 per 1 month offers they have had in recent years. They wouldn't be recouping any money that way. When the 1911 Census was first added FindMyPast didn't have 1 month subs, only 6 or 12 month ones.
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Doesn't your email say "we are giving you unlimited access to ... The 1939 Register" in the first line?
Can't see why the currency you used to purchase your subscription should make any difference to that
Yes, it does say that in the first line, so hopefully it will be ok - I'll soon find out on 16th Feb! Thanks for the reassurance!
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I can't afford to take up an annual sub so only buy monthly and that's a bit hit and miss, I've just looked at my account and at the moment I'm on a world wide monthly but that was because I got it half price. So it looks like this will only be available to people who can afford to cough up for an annual subscription, what about those of us who can't? :'( :'( :'(
(I also subscribe to Ancestry monthly and have a 3 month sub left with The Genealogist)
Bee, I assume you purchased a 4 month thegenealogist subscription for £40? FindMyPast have had numerous half price 12 month Britain or World subs in the last year or so. Admittedly more World recently than Britain, but there was a Britain offer recently too which was only £10 more than the offer of 4 months for thegenealogist and far better value in my personal opinion.
At some point, as with the 1911 Census, the 1939 Register will probably get added to monthly subs but was never likely to happen at the start because, at the very least, of the numerous £1 per 1 month offers they have had in recent years. They wouldn't be recouping any money that way. When the 1911 Census was first added FindMyPast didn't have 1 month subs, only 6 or 12 month ones.
Thank you smudwhisk, I will be looking into it. I'm dropping The Genealogist when this sub runs out as they barely have any records I'm interested in. Though their search engine for censuses by street name or families is pretty good admittedly.
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Seen email from FindMyPast......still can't believe it....but 1939 Reg..will soon be included on FindMyPast..16th Feb
Cheers
Yonks
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Seems going to be on FindMyPast..in with your subs
Yonks
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Seems going to be on FindMyPast..in with your subs
Yonks
Yes, but note from the earlier posts it is an annual sub not a monthly one.
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Oh!!..will have to wait and see..then as the way I read the email..it looks as if in the subs..
16th Feb will be the date to watch
Yonks
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I just received this email informing me
Free Weekend 22 – 25 January from Fri 12pm to 12pm Mon 25th
Please note, along with electoral roll records, the 1939 Register is not included in our Free Weekend event
We're pleased to tell you that from 16th February 2016, we'll be giving unlimited access to the 1939 Register in our 12 month World and Britain subscription packages.
If you'd rather not subscribe, don't worry this premium record set will still be available using PayAsYouGo credits.
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I've had the email too now, and the announcement of the free weekend. What worries me about the latter is 12pm -'what does that mean? You can either have 12 midday or 12 midnight, but never 12pm or am
Steve
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12pm = Noon; 00.00 hours would be midnight
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Agreed that 00.00 hours is midnight, but we're talking the 12 hour clock here, not the 24 hour one. If you use am and pm then the "m" refers to midday (in latin) and 12pm just doesn't make sense. You could have 12.01pm though
Steve
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I got the e-mail as well. Looking forward to doing some searching as I live in Canada and with the exchange rate on the pound it makes it a little expensive here. Also I don;t think I will be renewing my sub as it is in U.S dollars and our Canadian $ exchange is not very good right not.
cheers
Anne
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Agreed that 00.00 hours is midnight, but we're talking the 12 hour clock here, not the 24 hour one. If you use am and pm then the "m" refers to midday (in latin) and 12pm just doesn't make sense. You could have 12.01pm though
Steve
Agreed: and there is much (sometimes heated) debate on this!
An example: 4pm is fourth hour after midday (i.e. 4 hours post meridiem) so 12pm must be midnight and 12am therefore is the twelfth completed hour before midday (and therefore midday itself) but then there's 12.01pm etc....?
Much better to say 12 noon or midnight to avoid confusion (myself probably included)!
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Still waiting for my email about the 1939 register. I have the US FindMyPast, so maybe that is what is causing the delay??
RK
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I would be guided by Wikipedia in this case :
"... By convention, 12 AM denotes midnight and 12 PM denotes noon ..."
"... 12 a.m. means noon and 12 p.m. means midnight ..."
Take your pick ;D
Mike.
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My email says this
"Finally, we wanted to let you know we're opening up access to most of our records for free this weekend*, so you'll have access to records from across the globe for three whole days free of charge (Midday Friday 22nd to Midday Monday 25th GMT)."
Must have had people querying the times
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I've had the email about the 1939 being available from 16th Feb, slightly irritated that I've already forked out for a couple of records, but plenty more to look at now they're free! Didn't know about the free weekend, but then they probably wouldn't email me about this as I've just taken advantage of the half-price world subs.
For anyone who has a reasonable amount of time left on their 12month subscription, I would advise not ticking the auto renew to get the loyalty discount, because there may well be better offers later in the year. This is the second half price offer I've had, usually comes out around Christmas?
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I would advise not ticking the auto renew to get the loyalty discount, because there may well be better offers later in the year. This is the second half price offer I've had, usually comes out around Christmas?
I will wait for the Easter discount :) ;)
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I have an annual sub but haven't had an email yet -- is anyone else still waiting?
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I haven't had one yet but I don't mind. They've announced it on their Facebook page so that's good enough for me.
They usually send out information on Fridays with their new records etc.
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I would advise not ticking the auto renew to get the loyalty discount, because there may well be better offers later in the year. This is the second half price offer I've had, usually comes out around Christmas?
I will wait for the Easter discount :) ;)
You can always untick the auto renew when a cheap rate offer comes along. ;)
Until recently I always had the box ticked to auto renew and it never stopped me from taking up half price offers.
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I have a monthly subscription. Is the free access only for the year long subscription?
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I have a monthly subscription. Is the free access only for the year long subscription?
Yes.
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I have an annual sub but haven't had an email yet -- is anyone else still waiting?
Hi Annie,
I've still not had mine either - however, I've been reading what other people have said and I'm getting a niggling feeling that I won't get one as although I've got an annual sub I 'unticked' the auto renew box.... But I'm pretty sure when I do renew I should get all the new benefits (well I hope so anyway!)
CD
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CD, if you have an annual sub you will get the access anyway. FindMyPast's notice on Facebook confirmed that and also confirmed anyone with a new subscription after that date would get the access. Its only those with monthly subs who won't get free access. I know someone else with an annual sub who doesn't have auto-renew ticked but they got the email. I think some of them may just get lost as its very hit and miss as to whether I get the Friday new records emails. I wouldn't worry about it.
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I have an annual sub but haven't had an email yet -- is anyone else still waiting?
Hi Annie,
I've still not had mine either - however, I've been reading what other people have said and I'm getting a niggling feeling that I won't get one as although I've got an annual sub I 'unticked' the auto renew box.... But I'm pretty sure when I do renew I should get all the new benefits (well I hope so anyway!)
CD
My auto renew was unticked and I got one. I don't think it matters though, as long as you have a year's subscription you will get the 1939 register thrown in with it.
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Those of you who have not received the email, have you checked your spam tray? Sometime these things get caught by an over active filter system.
Jebber
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I think the auto-renew only affects the price-freeze and loyalty discount for the next subscription I.e. if you don't autorenew , you're starting a new sub at the higher price
Hopefully before that renewal date ever arrives there'll be a suitable offer that will push it ever further into the future
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Thanks everyone for your replies. I really would like to get an email so that I feel that I am valued ;D
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It's to be hoped they are set up for the flood of corrections. I know of several already without having purchased any credits, so goodness only knows what I might find when I start looking in anger. Also, I expect things might collapse on 16 February if past experience is anything to go by. Maybe this free weekend will be a good test for them re capacity and site stability.
Somthing is not right. A few days ago I managed to get into 1936 data base foe Marsh (Spelled Marsk) of 99 (?) Bower Way Cippenham. and got fairly complete info as to inhabitants and birth years.Upon trying for Thomas James Kirtland of Coach and Horses 32 Oxford road Windsor I got some other name that I am not sure I can fathom. The thing is that The Coach and horses is given on TJKs death Cert, athough, I am told, he died in Edward VII Hosp in 1940 or 1944.. So it seems that something is not right.
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I wonder if local library services who give access to FindMyPast will now be able the 1939 register to their users? Might be worth checking out
According to a post on their Facebook page, Libraries will be getting access to the 1939 Register.
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Somthing is not right. A few days ago I managed to get into 1936 data base foe Marsh (Spelled Marsk) of 99 (?) Bower Way Cippenham. and got fairly complete info as to inhabitants and birth years.Upon trying for Thomas James Kirtland of Coach and Horses 32 Oxford road Windsor I got some other name that I am not sure I can fathom. The thing is that The Coach and horses is given on TJKs death Cert, athough, I am told, he died in Edward VII Hosp in 1940 or 1944.. So it seems that something is not right.
There is the death of a Thomas W Kirtland registered in Windsor district in 1944 age 73 and a Thomas James Kirtland in 1909 age 62. Are you getting the two muddled?
Thomas W comes up on the search of the 1939 register, but if you click preview it says the whole household is closed. Similarly searching on address, it says whole household is closed. Clearly an error as Thomas W was born about 1871 and should be open
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Looks like the half of Oxford road with the address you're looking for was demolished in the 1960s
http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsorhistory/Oxford%20Road/1950-1965%20OxfordRoad.html
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Looks like the half of Oxford road with the address you're looking for was demolished in the 1960s
http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsorhistory/Oxford%20Road/1950-1965%20OxfordRoad.html
Yup! It is what is supposed to be Progress.
More info on Kirtland
http://theroyalwindsorforum.yuku.com/reply/37427/York-Place-Windsor#reply-37427
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Hhm, not had an email ye. :-\
Has everyone whose had the email been Worldwide subscribers?
Yes I have been a Worldwide subscriber and had my email on the 20th Jan,so I am looking forward to the 16th Feb.
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Can anyone tell me what is in the subject box as a I delete a lot of the mails without reading!
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Mollymoofer
The 1939 Register is Coming to your Subscription!
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Mine said " : Unlimited access to the 1939 Register is coming to your subscription!"
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Can anyone tell me what is in the subject box as a I delete a lot of the mails without reading!
You may lose a lot of important information that way?
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I wonder if local library services who give access to FindMyPast will now be able the 1939 register to their users? Might be worth checking out
According to a post on their Facebook page, Libraries will be getting access to the 1939 Register.
Ooh, that's good news. I'm quite surprised by it actually.
Lots of time at the library in February then (not got a Findmypast subscription at the mo).
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I would be guided by Wikipedia in this case :
"... By convention, 12 AM denotes midnight and 12 PM denotes noon ..."
"... 12 a.m. means noon and 12 p.m. means midnight ..."
A little late to this particular party, I know, but here is my five cents' worth.
I have encountered just as many people who insist it is the other way around. I do not think it is possible to define a settled convention. Even if it were, as has already been observed, the "m" in both "a.m." AND "p.m." is "meridiem" which, translated into English, means midday.
It necessarily follows that 12 a.m. is midnight (12 hours before midday) ... and 12 p.m. is ALSO midnight (12 hours after midday).
There was, in fact, a very sensible convention in the 19th century that 12 noon was "12 m." ... and this abbreviation is obviously correct once the Latin expansion of the two commonly used abbreviations is understood.
It is a shame, therefore, that this convention has fallen out of use; but given that it has, then if you wish to avoid ambiguity, "12 noon" and "12 midnight" are clearly to be preferred as they are both (a) incapable of being misunderstood; and (b) not dependent upon an external reference source such as Wiki to justify their use.
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I've just subscribed for the £1 for 1 month but when I do a search & names come up on the list it is asking for credits......I thought it was free or am I reading it wrong?
Annie
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The 1939 Register is only included in subscriptions from 16th Feb and then only with annual subs. Anyone subscribing monthly will still have to purchase pay per view credits. It is mentioned elsewhere in this post.
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Thanks smudwhisk,
As per......not clear enough in their wording so another few million income for zilch ???
Annie
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Annie, it does say on the FindMyPast subscription page in bold letters under the price boxes that the 1939 Register isn't included in subscriptions. I accept that there isn't currently anything on the homepage or the subscription page saying that from 16 Feb it will be included in subscriptions but only annual ones, but it has been extensively discussed on this thread and on other forums and social media. I'm surprised you were aware it was to be included but not of the finer details.
The emails that FindMyPast have been sending out with offers do make it clear that the 1939 Register won't be included in the monthly subs. Similarly, the commision sites I've seen with discount codes also make this clear.
I suspect one of the reasons it won't be included with monthly subs is the fact they have frequently been offering a month for a £1. While they do often have half price annual sub offers, they obviously would still make more money from those than the £1 per month offers to recoup against the costs of digitising and indexing the Register.
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It seems quite fair to me that it will only be included in the annual subs, and as you say smudwhisk, it does say that on the site and we've definitely mentioned it several times here. If they included everything in the monthly offers, what would be the point of having an annual subscription? Surely the whole aim of offering a month at a "silly" price is to encourage people to try the site and then go on to take out a full subscription.
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It seems quite fair to me that it will only be included in the annual subs, and as you say smudwhisk, it does say that on the site and we've definitely mentioned it several times here. If they included everything in the monthly offers, what would be the point of having an annual subscription? Surely the whole aim of offering a month at a "silly" price is to encourage people to try the site and then go on to take out a full subscription.
Couldn't agree more
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Thanks smudwhisk,
As per......not clear enough in their wording so another few million income for zilch ???
Annie
FindMyPast were very clear from the onset that credits had to be used for the 1939 register, it wasn't included in any subscription. Whether purchasing new credits, or perhaps using those already in one's account to fully open a discovered household was the choice of the subscriber. Don't forget Annie that quite a lot of information could be found prior to using the credits.
The very generous offer of £1.00 for one month allows access to a fair amount, so expecting the 1939 to be included too is asking for something for next to nothing, or zilch to use your word.
Do as a lot of other RootsChatters do, take up an annual subscription and search away to your heart's content, from 16 February of course.
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marking spot thanks
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Will the register be included in library subscriptions?
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Will the register be included in library subscriptions?
I wonder if local library services who give access to FindMyPast will now be able the 1939 register to their users? Might be worth checking out
According to a post on their Facebook page, Libraries will be getting access to the 1939 Register.
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Great, thanks
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they may not be aware of it though, Westminster weren't until I told them last week.
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Just checked my library website, they don't have access to Find My Past. :'(
I might try suggesting it to them.....
Pat
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Thank you to StevieSteve and Scouseboy.
I will eagerly await the addition to my subscription and will ,in future, take more notice of my emails :)
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Just checked my library website, they don't have access to Find My Past. :'(
I might try suggesting it to them.....
Pat
Well, a very nice reply arrived today - they will be getting FindMyPast from April 1st :) but due to budget constraints, will not be continuing with Ancestry as well.
The lady told me she thought that the 1939 would not be included so I was pleased to be able to tell her (after reading all the help on here) that it will be included in the Library edition.
Thanks again Rootschatters!
Pat
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Just checked my library website, they don't have access to Find My Past. :'(
I might try suggesting it to them.....
Pat
Well, a very nice reply arrived today - they will be getting FindMyPast from April 1st :) but due to budget constraints, will not be continuing with Ancestry as well.
The lady told me she thought that the 1939 would not be included so I was pleased to be able to tell her (after reading all the help on here) that it will be included in the Library edition.
Thanks again Rootschatters!
Pat
That's great news Pat. Shame they can't continue with Ancestry too - there isn't much overlap between the parish records on the two sites so it's useful to have access to both.
I'm lucky here in East Sussex, our libraries subscribe to both Ancestry and FindMyPast, as well as the British Newspaper Archives. Really excited about having complete access to the 1939 register. I can't afford a yearly subscription to FindMyPast so I'm glad it'll be available in the library edition.
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1939 now added to those yearly subs ;D
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That's great! Wish you hadn't said though, as I was about to go to bed so must resist the temptation to sneak a look. ;D ;D
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That's great! Wish you hadn't said though, as I was about to go to bed so must resist the temptation to sneak a look. ;D ;D
;D Sorry
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I am all excited. Printed out my first Household on the new scheme on my computer in the USA at 03.35 GMT Tuesday 16th February 2016.
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Think I've found who I was looking for, one of my problems. He's in salvAtion army hostel in b'ham but the year later he's in Walsall one where he died. He's been put ask general dealer maker but it's actually market so I've sent a correction as well. I still need to allow a year either side of birth year it gives although it's probably correct but gives me a birth month and day which hopefully is accurate to get a birth cert. He's hopefully registered under blake , could be Richardson, wood or whatever his mother's maiden name is. Good job I'm on days off from tomorrow but the three weeks of waiting for this cert will be agony but I will probably after leave it more open!
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YEs now found missing Sidney G Smith
He was transcribed as Agnes G Smith female
It looked nothing like Agnes
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Right, off to the library in a bit. I spent a few credits on households back in November but there are so many more I want to look at.
I get the feeling Findmypast might be a bit overwhelmed today!
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Yay just found my nan and grand-dad, not that they were missing but ya know, just nice to see them where I thought they would be. ;D
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It will be nice to actually download the images of the pages I photographed at TNA when I went.
The photos werent't the best in terms of quality because of screen size and lighting but we all have to make do with what's available at the time.
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Well, I never got the email but I do have the service so that's what counts!
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Site is slowing noticeably now - even grinding to a halt sometimes
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Can anyone confirm if it's available on the free library version or is it not included?
Blue
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It is supposed to be, according to FindMyPast.
We have a few visitors to our Research Centre anticipating finding family members at their next visit.
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I think I might have to unnotify new replies to this thread ,I need all the time I have to do 1939 look ups. ;D ;D ;D
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After a lot of searching I eventually found my husband's great grandmother.
The register clearly shows her as female, widowed, born 1866.
The transcription shows her as male, married, year of birth unknown.
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I am really surprised to find my dad and his twin brother on there. My dad died in 1982 and his twin in 2006. Both would be 90 if still alive. I thought records under 100 years old were redacted and needed a death certificate to open them??
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I've just found a relation where the transcription says "Certified assistant schoolmistress. Retired on mariner." When I checked the image it is obviously "retired on marriage" ;D
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I am really surprised to find my dad and his twin brother on there. My dad died in 1982 and his twin in 2006. Both would be 90 if still alive. I thought records under 100 years old were redacted and needed a death certificate to open them??
Some records have been matched up with the death index, which means lots of records that wouldn't have been opened yet are now open.
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I am really surprised to find my dad and his twin brother on there. My dad died in 1982 and his twin in 2006. Both would be 90 if still alive. I thought records under 100 years old were redacted and needed a death certificate to open them??
Some records have been matched up with the death index, which means lots of records that wouldn't have been opened yet are now open.
That is fantastic!!! I've found out all sorts in such a short period of time, I even found a great aunt living next door to her future husband so now I know how they met :D
Without going back through all of these posts do we have a 1939 Register date as we do for the censuses? If so, it might help me to pin down a death of somebody with a common name.
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I've just found my great grandad living with one of his sons and family,but not transcribed,no wonder he didn't appear before. It's difficult to amend a transcription when one person has been missed off,but I did it by adding a comment to the family page.
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Without going back through all of these posts do we have a 1939 Register date as we do for the censuses? If so, it might help me to pin down a death of somebody with a common name.
From the website.....
On September 1st, 1939 Germany invaded Poland, putting the wheels in motion for Britain to declare war on the 3rd. On September 5th, the National Registration Act received royal assent and Registrar General Sir Sylvanus Vivian announced that National Registration Day would be September 29th.
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Without going back through all of these posts do we have a 1939 Register date as we do for the censuses? If so, it might help me to pin down a death of somebody with a common name.
It's September 29th. So most marriages in the third quarter of 1939 would have taken place.
Have a look at this page of tips from LostCousins:
http://lostcousins.com/newsletters2/1939special.htm
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Can anyone confirm if it's available on the free library version or is it not included?
Blue
Hi Blue,
I can confirm that YES it is available on the library version. :D
CD
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Without going back through all of these posts do we have a 1939 Register date as we do for the censuses? If so, it might help me to pin down a death of somebody with a common name.
See also: RootsChat Reference Library (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/index.php) => Lexicon (click here) (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/reflib-lexicon.php?letter=*)
Bob
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September 29th it is then thank you claire and carol. :D
I am finding out so much stuff it's unreal, especially since I remember a lot of these older relatives :) I just found my great auntie's husband, I only had them on a marriage index before, and with the help of his DOB from the Register and then going into Ancestry I found him in censuses and his death quite easily. He died when I was only 2 years and 8 months old and I'm quite shocked that I can still vaguely remember him as I didn't realise my memories went quite so far back!!! :o
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Can anyone confirm if it's available on the free library version or is it not included?
Blue
Hi Blue,
I can confirm that YES it is available on the library version. :D
CD
Yes I dropped in this morning I was surprised it was free on the library edition I thought it would have been excluded :)
Blue
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Yes I dropped in this morning I was surprised it was free on the library edition I thought it would have been excluded :)
Blue
I was pleasantly surprised too. Having a trip there tomorrow morning!
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I noticed that two stretches of street that were completely missing from the database 3 months ago are now there, which is encouraging.
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Early hours this morning when i was doing a bit of research on findmypast where i only have a months world sub it allowed me to see the 1939 register for free so taking advantage i got a few before they realised there mistake is that bad of me? ;D.
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Have they corrected it yet?
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They have Groom :'( i wanted to try my gt grandfather but still no joy i thought it may have been easy with his unusual name but no such luck!
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I've found something really strange.
My mother in law didn't marry until 1947, but in the 1939 register her name is crossed out and her married name put next to it. How can that be?
Sorry if this has been asked before
Carol
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I've found something really strange.
My mother in law didn't marry until 1947, but in the 1939 register her name is crossed out and her married name put next to it. How can that be?
Sorry if this has been asked before
Carol
The underlying register was compiled in 1939. The amends were made on it until 1990. It was a working document.
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I've found something really strange.
My mother in law didn't marry until 1947, but in the 1939 register her name is crossed out and her married name put next to it. How can that be?
Sorry if this has been asked before
Carol
I believe they went back and amended it up until 1991 I think it was from memory. My auntie was married twice, the first marriage in the 60's, the second marriage in the late 70's and both names have been added to her record.
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Oh and I should have added she was only 8 years old on the 1939 Register so pretty good record keeping!!!
If only my brick walls were still alive in 1939......... ::)
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Thanks Bee
My brick walls had long gone by 1939
Carol
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Thanks ReadyDale, just seen your reply
Carol
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I noticed that two stretches of street that were completely missing from the database 3 months ago are now there, which is encouraging.
Oceanic Road, Liverpool doesn't come up on the 1939 address search, but I have someone living there in 1937 and it still exists today. Now that I've seen the images, my sympathies are entirely with the transcribers. The address column is very faint and the capital letter is badly formed; consequently one part of the road is transcribed as 'Gernic' and the rest isn't named at all. My person, luckily, is at the correct number in the unnamed part.
I've sent two 'corrections' to FindMyPast but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't accept them without further evidence.
Of course it couldn't happen today because hardly any records are handwritten and computers are infallible :P
Carol
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I've been wondering how Dewi Street was transcribed as Devon Street but having now seen the image I can understand.
Some areas are nicely written, others........
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I sent in a correction at 2am uk time and it has been updated already
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It's a shame the enumerators weren't instructed they had to complete the forms in capitol letters and black ink.
The ones that are, are much easier to read.
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I've just realised that you can now flick forward and backwards to the next pages, could you do this before?
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Well,............. I'm confused ::).
I subscribe on a pay monthly basis and was surprised and very happy to just pop on for something this morning and found I could trawl through the register, (one happy bunny ;D ), now I've just been back on and searched for someone and it's asking for a credit purchase ??? was I lucky this morning and They made a mistake or is it a glitch? I'm still confused.
Frank.
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I think you were lucky and it was their mistake! It says clearly on the site that it is just free for annual subscriptions.
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I think you were lucky and it was their mistake! It says clearly on the site that it is just free for annual subscriptions.
Someone must have told them today is my birthday ;D
Frank.
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I've just realised that you can now flick forward and backwards to the next pages, could you do this before?
you could only move if the family you were after were split across the pages ie parents on 1st page and children on the next
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Having worldwide subs I was ''given'' access yesterday and a lovely email explaining how I could look up people.
My problem? Apart from 1 person , who I found out when he passed was born with another name anyway , I have nobody to look up.
There are no Scottish records so I cant even help my stepfather with his family. Wonder if I can ask for a discount on my next lot as I wont use it
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Wish You could help with a few of mine...
Starting off with 3100 potentials, I've reduced it down to 3054
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Steve
Your comment might be removed as we're not supposed to do look-ups from commercial sites as they break the t's & c's of those commercial sites ;)
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Ok Dawn, edited
Had only been kidding
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I know Steve but you may be inundated with look-up offers by the generously minded chatters here and that would give the copyright team a nightmare of a headache.
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My local library has the 1939 register and I have been looking this morning, I have been reading these posts and wonder if the library only has access to the transcript? Didn't seem to be an option (that I could see) for an image of the household :)
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Our FH centre has what I presume to be the library edition, and we can view the full page image.
Do you not see this LadyJayne?
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No, just a arrow to a transcript.
I'll go back next week and take another look, In my excitement I was in a rush trying to look at as many family members as I could, in the hour allowed at the library.
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I'm not sure exactly but sometimes the screen asks you to login in or continue as a guest? if you continue as a guest you should see the images.
If you don't see the images, have a word with the library staff as the version they have access to might need upgrading.From memory this happened at the British Library one week and was fixed by the next.
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I'm just waiting for a nice big discount offer on a UK Annual sub in the new year - just so I can get 1939 register. Most other FindMyPast records will just be a (pleasant) bonus.
Fingers crossed. :)
BugBear
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Guess its common knowledge by now.
1939 Register is now on Ancestry and totally free access this weekend
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I think today is the last day, yes? Anyway, why the many, many "This record is officially closed" when I believe there must be family members on the same page. For instance, I have a relative who is on the 1939 Register, having been born in 1936 and thus only 3 years old, yet her parents - who surely must be there - are missing, possibly under the redacted area...and they are long, long dead (1959 for the dad, and 1977 for the mum). Strangely, her surname is amended to read her (eventual) married surname.
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Strangely, her surname is amended to read her (eventual) married surname.
The 1939 register was used by the NHS and updated until the early 1990's
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From the National Archives:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/
Records remain closed for 100 years from date of birth or until proof of death is produced.
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Lydiaann, today is the last day for 'free access', which is for non-subscribers. Anyone with a paid account it will continue as it is.
For the answer to your question about closed records, and further information, including why change of names have been made, see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk, or FindMyPast which has had the 1939 register since November 2015.
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Also, search for '1939 Register' on RootsChat. There were many threads, some of them quite lengthy, when FindMyPast first released it and there have been many more since.
There's only really one fresh issue now that Ancestry also has it. Just thinking aloud here, but as FindMyPast no longer has exclusive rights are we allowed to do look-ups now?
(Not that I'm planning to unless/until the answer is yes!)
Carol
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There's only really one fresh issue now that Ancestry also has it. Just thinking aloud here, but as FindMyPast no longer has exclusive rights are we allowed to do look-ups now?
(Not that I'm planning to unless/until the answer is yes!)
Carol
I think the same rules will apply as the 1911 - No :-\
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Strictly speaking, you will only be allowed to post information from a free search after today.
However, as we have found with the 1911, as more sites give access, more information is available.
eg: 1911 census through familysearch, the only information not given in a free search is the fertility data.
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msr: When you say 'non-subscribers', do you mean to Ancestry or to NA? I do subscribe to Ancestry so does this mean I'll continue to get 'service'?
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nannyjan: Does this mean that if someone's name DOES appear on the Register, they are dead?
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Dawn - thanks, that's what I expected but it's always worth checking :)
Lydiaann - apparently the 1939 is on Ancestry permanently for UK or World subscribers.
They appear to have done their own transcriptions so some are different from FindMyPast. I've compared a few and it looks like Ancestry have had to transcribe the images you can see with the redactions in place, whereas FindMyPast were granted access to the unredacted original entries.
Example - my mother's name was Peggy and that's what the FindMyPast version has. The following line is redacted, so Ancestry couldn't see the loops under 'ggy' and they've listed her as Leslie.
Carol
Added: When I say 'with the redactions in place' I mean the redactions that FindMyPast have now, not the ones they had in 2015. Hope that makes sense :-\
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nannyjan: Does this mean that if someone's name DOES appear on the Register, they are dead?
Probably, but there have been quite a few cases of people’s records being opened in error when they are still alive.
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I think today is the last day, yes? Anyway, why the many, many "This record is officially closed" when I believe there must be family members on the same page. For instance, I have a relative who is on the 1939 Register, having been born in 1936 and thus only 3 years old, yet her parents - who surely must be there - are missing, possibly under the redacted area...and they are long, long dead (1959 for the dad, and 1977 for the mum). Strangely, her surname is amended to read her (eventual) married surname.
You seem to be assuming parents will be with children, this was not always the case, the children may have been evacuated or as with my wife’s father living with their nan or other relatives. 1939 was a time when many men had enlisted meaning the father was not at home and if the mother was employed there may not have been anyone to look after the kids.
Other people were afraid of being bombed and sent their children to relatives away from the cities even before the official evacuations took place.
Finally the dataset that Ancestry is using is not as up to date as the Findmypast dataset when it comes to unredacted individuals. I have some records that were unredacted on FindMyPast in 2016 but are redacted on Ancestry and have been told of a record unredacted in 2017 on FindMyPast which is unredacted on Ancestry.
Cheers
Guy
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Other people were afraid of being bombed and sent their children to relatives away from the cities even before the official evacuations took place.
Official evacuation of children, code named Operation Pied Pipe, began on 1st September 1939, so some children will have been evacuated nearly a month when the register was taken on September 29th.
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Other people were afraid of being bombed and sent their children to relatives away from the cities even before the official evacuations took place.
Official evacuation of children, code named Operation Pied Pipe, began on 1st September 1939, so some children will have been evacuated nearly a month when the register was taken on September 29th.
For anyone with school teachers in their family who they are unable to find in the 1939 register, it may be worth looking further afield.
I discovered someone I was researching staying with his widowed mother in Norfolk (I believe his usual residence was in the London area). He was noted as "Evacuated with school children - School Master". Also with them was "Evacuated with school children - School Mistress". :)
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For anyone with school teachers in their family who they are unable to find in the 1939 register, it may be worth looking further afield. . . .
Miners also moved quite some distance. I have two brothers in my tree who 'emigrated' from Wigan, Lancashire I found them in Easington, Co. Durham. They appear to have been there since 1920/21 as one married in Wigan in 1920 and his children were registered in Easington in '21 & '23. One of them was buried ('68) in Hyde, Cheshire and may have been there since '47 as his son is in the same grave and he was killed in a flying accident in 1947.
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They appear to have done their own transcriptions so some are different from FindMyPast.
I've already found several people on Ancestry who I couldn't find on Findmypast, presumably the transcription was incorrect on Findmypast. So even if you don't subscribe to both sites, it's well worth searching on both.
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There are some interesting missing people
My wife’s grandfather is there, where his wife should be, is blanked out. I can’t be sure it is here, she was born in 1880’s but not to be seen.
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There are some interesting missing people
My wife’s grandfather is there, where his wife should be, is blanked out. I can’t be sure it is here, she was born in 1880’s but not to be seen.
Keep checking back - my grandmother born 1882 was missing, but when I looked last month her record had been opened.
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I know the 1939 register probably can come under Census and Resource discussions but the Common Room has so many 1939 threads. This is just a suggestion but what if the 1939 register had its own board. Then again it is probably easier to have the 1939 queries on the common room instead of a "1939 Register" board.
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There aren't enough spare/empty 'boards' to be able to create another one.
You are more than welcome though to start a new topic in Census & Resource discussions and post all the useful 1939 links here you can find.
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There are some interesting missing people
My wife’s grandfather is there, where his wife should be, is blanked out. I can’t be sure it is here, she was born in 1880’s but not to be seen.
Difficulty I have is assuming the redacted person is her, I have not located her death Though living in 1939 in Bournemouth she apparently died in Suffolk, I need to get death cert.