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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: woodtonsmithy on Friday 22 January 16 20:30 GMT (UK)
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Hiya, trying to find some information on Emma Siggers. I know she was born 1836 in Lambeth.
and Married to William Siggers born 1842 in Ipswich and was a preacher in London.
Does anyone know any more?
Thank you
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Hi as you have seen or can readily view the 1881 census, then Emma was a Widow when she married William Siggers as Emma Sarah Drane June qtr 1870 St Saviour 1d 727, one of the stepchildren was a Sophia Drane christened Sophia Amy Drane 1st January 1858 St John, Bethnal Green, Marriage Henry Drane to Emma Sarah Palmer 9th May 1854 St George Camberwell her father was a Joseph Palmer occ Cordwainer
Keyboard86
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Well done, Keyboard86.
Emma Sarah Palmer baptised 30 Jun 1837, St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, parents Joseph and Sarah; Joseph was a shoemaker. I think they lived in Union Street.
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Are you descended from this couple, or are you wanting more information just on Emma? I assume you have her later details and death.
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Well done, Keyboard86.
Emma Sarah Palmer baptised 30 Jun 1837, St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, parents Joseph and Sarah; Joseph was a shoemaker. I think they lived in Union Street.
Think the mother of Emma Sarah Palmer was a Sophia as just checked baptism for address as family 1841/51 are hard to spot?!
Seeing the baptism was at St John's a possible marriage of a Joseph Palmer to Sophia Smith 23rd January 1832.
Also Emma in 1861 aged 26 Widow occ Mangler b Westminster? with Henry 2 b Bethnal Green and an infant daughter 3 weeks I believe the daughter was a Charlotte Grace Drane who poor girl was born and died June qtr 1861 Hackney, within the household is who I believe is the mother of Henry a Catherine Drane aged 54 Widow b Bethnal Green
Census Ref RG09/183/9/18
In 1871 Emma/William Sigger have as one of the stepchildren a Willie b 1867 Bermondsey, he appears to have been registered as Willie D???Nex Drane June qtr 1867 Bermondsey 1d 92 he appears as a Sigger in 1881 above, where he goes from the 1881 and under what surname I do not know!
1871 Census RG10/632/110/34
Keyboard86
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Well spotted! My mistake, reading what I was typing instead of reading what I should have been typing. :-[
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To Keyboard 86 and Pine family.
Thank you so much for the information it is fantastic I did not know where to expand the family tree with regard to Emma. she is in my family tree and I am trying to get back as far as I can. the only info I had on Emma was what I mentioned at the start. I do not know her date of death. Thank you again for all your help.
Jonathan
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;D Hi glad to help, but Emma 1841/51 and what looks to be an illegitimate birth of William D Drane 1867 Bermondsey, as it would appear Emma is a Widow in 1861?
Sophia aged 3 b Bethnal Green in 1861 is with an Ormond Rehead Delve who married a Charlotte Drane. Sophia is shown as Niece, I have more but will let you digest our findings!
Keyboard86
PS so just who is your direct ancestor?
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There are two not very well sourced trees on ancestry that have Willie Dimmex Drane b 1868 Essex died New South Wales in 1945, with a wife b 1900
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A death announcement for Willie Dimmock Drane in 1945 - http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/27934341?searchTerm=%22willie%20drane%22&searchLimits=l-availability=y|||l-australian=y
Known as Bill Danvers
there's a later marriage announcement for his son where the middle name is spelled Dimmex
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Hi Keyboard, William and Emma are my great great grandparents. Miriam Siggers is the line I have followed to get to them. Mind you have been a bit confused as some has sent some info of an Emma Palmer / Siggers born 17.4.1836 at St john the Evangelist to a Charles Palmer and Anne Walton.
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Hi again did William Siggers remarry a Mary Ann Burnett Dec qtr 1905 West Ham 4a 469
Death Emma Sarah Siggers Sept qtr 1904 West Ham 4a 61 aged 69
Keyboard86
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Hiya, ooh did not know that. last info I had on him was 1901 living in West Ham with Emma and was still a preacher. should I sign on with ancestry .co.uk to get to all this info
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;D Well I got the remarriage and death just by using FreeBMD?
Keyboard86
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Hi again, and going on year of birth in 1901 census :-
Death William Siggers June qtr 1916 Paddington 1a 9 aged 76
Keyboard86
PS re Emma, on both marriages she was Emma Sarah not plain Emma!
Possible death of Mary A Siggers :-
Mary A Siggers March qtr 1939 Camberwell 1d 878 aged 79
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There are two not very well sourced trees on ancestry that have Willie Dimmex Drane b 1868 Essex died New South Wales in 1945, with a wife b 1900
Hi all in the 1891 census this guy b 1867 Bermondsey is missing with his mother as well, as William in 1891 aged 49 b Ipswich is with Daughters Sophia E 20 b Bermondsey Marian A 19 b Bermondsey Alice A 17 b Kilburn and Son Chas H 13 b West Ham next door is the married Sophia Amy Drane and family who married an Alfred Gwinnell
So two questions possibly, where were Emma Sarah Siggers and Willie D Drane in 1891 or when did Willie and how did he arrive in Australia?
Also why two Sophia's?
1891 census RG12/1329/47a/41 East Road, West Ham
Keyboard86