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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: ShayeRebecca on Friday 29 January 16 11:26 GMT (UK)
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Okay I know this may be a long shot but I wonder if anyone can help me.
I'm trying to look for any information about my Great Grandfather John Clark.
I don't have a lot of information but I came across my Grandmothers Birth Certificate (Jean Elizabeth Scott Clark 1932-1984 Born in Adelaide, South Australia)
Which States her Father As:
John Clark
1888 Lanarkshire, Scotland.
and her mother
Doris Louise Bottom
1895 Adelaide, South Australia
I've been speaking to my grandmothers brother and have found out that John and Doris died within a year of each other and have found that Doris died in 1944 but have found nothing about the elusive John Clark, could it be cause his name is so common? Can anyone help me please??
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Hi ,
Looks like John Clark and Doris Louise Bottom were married in Adelaide in 1915.
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
Not sure if that certificate would give you their parents names :-\
ev
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Possible Army record here - http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
Use the Recordsearch with the words JOHN CLARK DORIS
Place of birth given as Coatbridge Scotland , age 27 in 1915 , father John Clark of Coatbridge Scotland , next of kin Doris Louise Clark of Adelaide.
ev
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Marriage announcement in The Advertiser ( Adelaide) dated 6 Nov 1915
John Clark, of 3rd Engineers, AIF youngest son of John Clark, Coatbridge to Doris Louise, third daughter of John Thornton Bottom, Hutt Street, Adelaide
Page14
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8652600?searchTerm=doris%20bottom&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|||l-decade=191
EDIT 1891. 6 Mosside Row, Coatbridge
Address more or less matches with info for father on Australian Military Record.
All on census born in Mosside, except mother, Elizabeth
John Clark 37 Locomotive Fitter
Elizabeth Clark 35 B Airdrie
Henry Clark 9
James Clark 5
John Clark 2 ***** B Mosside, Lanarkshire
(2 adult boarders also in household)
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Thanks Anne_p ,
That would seem to confirm that the Army record is the correct one.
ev
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Hi All :)
ShayeRebecca, there is a family tree for this family here on A/try (but you need a subs to view :-\) http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/62730931/person/32095023017/facts
Elizabeth Scott, wife of John Clark as anne_p, showed on the 1891 census, looks to have died in 1895 at 8 Moss Side, Coatbridge. On WW1 service records, normally mother was given as next of kin. If deceased, then father's details were given.
Their marriage on 2 April 1875.
This looks to be the ref for Henry, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT6H-YVR that anne_p showed on the 1891 census entry. Likely early deaths for children born post marriage in 1875 up to then, 1881?
Monica
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1881 here:
John Clark 27 engine fitter b. New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Clark 26 b. New Monkland, Lanarkshire
James Heaps 17 boarder
Address 6 Mosside Row Coatbridge
Monica
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1901 here:
Mr. John Clark 48 Filter (engineer)
James Clark 15 Iron Puddler
John Clark 15
Kate Grant 21 niece b. Lanarkshire, Old Monkland
Address: 8 Kipps Row Coatbridge
Son James above, his age is wrongly indexed. When he married in 1905 (Margaret Peters MacDonald), still living at Kipps Row, parents names confirmed, John Clark and Elizabeth Scott (deceased).
Monica
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Thank you very much everyone for their help. You guys are amazing!! I don't know much about him because he died when my grandmother was 12 years old and then she died before I was born but you've given my family a lot of answers 😊😊😊
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Hi Shaye (nice name),
Following on from the info. from the rest so far, all the info. will be accessible & downloadable with extra info. with both sets of parents names along with maiden surnames from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at a reasonable price.
Annie.
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Hi My name is Therese and I am the granddaughter of John Clark. I am in the process of researching my family tree through his line for my mum. Her name is Margaret and she was born April 21st 1945. She has the same day of birth as her father John. Mum's mother was Jessie Bristow. I am not sure if your Great Uncle would know anything about my mum because John died 3 weeks after she was born. If am sure this will come as a shock to members of your family but I'm hopeful that they will be understanding.
It is my understanding that your great grandmother Doris died in Feb 1944 and John in May 1945. I don't know the circumstances that led to the birth of my mum because my Nanna never mentioned a word to mum and any one else who might have known anything has passed away. As you can imagine everything would have been hush hush and swept under the carpet.
Mum was told nothing of her paternity although I think she had her suspicions and she didn't find out her paternity until she was 50. I have just recently found information on John Clark for mum and I don't think she has processed it yet...a bit shell shocked I think! As we all are. I have been unable to find much of anything on John post World War 1.
I am eager to find out as much as I can about relatives of John's and curious to see if any still reside here in Adelaide.
Please please contact me through this forum.
Therese
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Hi Therese,
My name is Shaye and I am the great grand daughter of John and Doris Clark. My Dad would be your half cousin. I've spoken to my Dad and it appears that my family does know about your Mum.
I am happy to help and try to answer as many questions as possible.
Shaye
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Hi Shaye, so pleased that you responded so quickly. Would you mind if we exchanged email addresses so that we may correspond that way. Unfortunately this site is a little confusing for me to navigate! Took me forever to find your reply once I had received an email notification.
My email is (*)
I must say that I'm a little stunned that your family knew about mum but I can't wait to fill in the gaps for her.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Therese
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Hi Therese,
Will send you an email now
Shaye
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Hi.I saw your post re John Clark of Lanarkshire and I am sure that he was the brother of my great grandfather James Scott Clark.
Please send me a message- I would really like to make contact with ShayeRebecca who posted about John Clark initially.
Bronwen
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Hi ShayeRebecca
Saw your posts re John Clark in Lanarkshire. I am certain that he is the younger brother of my great grandfather James Scott Clark.
Would love to make contact with you re the Clark family tree. I have lots to share.
Regards
Bronwen :)
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Hi Bronniepfi,
I would love to chat more. It’s been a long time since I starting looking. You can email at ******* looking forward to hearing from you.
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Hi everyone my name is Gavin Peter Clark my Grandfather is John Clark, Ian Bruce Clark is my father (Im his youngest son).
I have two boys Jack Scott Clark and Connor Michael Clark.
Im your dads 1st cousin Shaye and around 11-12 years younger than Craig (I haven't seen you since you were little).
I know a little about John but not much about his brother(s) or other family in Scotland or South Africa (I think?)
Im also aware of Jessie and Margaret.
Would be nice to hear from some relatives and maybe learn a little more about old Jock Clark!
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Hi Gavin, my name is Therese, John Clark is my Grandfather and my mother is Margaret, so I guess that makes us half first cousins! Craig and I have met, it was so nice to meet a member of a family that we have only known about for a short period of time. I have tied to make contact with your father with no success. My email address is theresemurtagh65@gmail.com if you would like to contact me on a more private forum. I really want to be able to tell my mum something about the family she has never known and be able to pass on any information about the research I have been able to do on John's family. It would be great to hear from you.
Kind Regards
Therese
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Hi ShayeRebecca
I'm guessing your questions from a few years back about John Clark were all answered.
I'm based in Ayrshire, Scotland and have been tracing my family tree back for a few years. Seems we might be related.
My G. G. Grandparents were Henry Clark (b.1825) and Bethea Russell Cowie (b.1828). They had several children including my G. Grandfather William Clark (b.1867). His older brother, John Clark was born in 1853. He married Elizabeth Scott in 1875.
The Family lived in Coatbridge which was heavily industrialised at the time including Coal Mining, Railway Works and Brick works.
My research took me down my G. Grandfather Williams line, but if you think I can provide any further information, please let me know.
Drew