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Title: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rayaco on Tuesday 02 February 16 13:51 GMT (UK)
Isabella atkinson was living with son in law james small and daughter isabella small (nee atkinson)
Living at Hetton le hole. Isabella born 1779 approx and was married to william atkinson. Isabella died 1862, looking for her burial. maiden name Isabell turnbull. Durham record office has no account of her burial and nor does sunderland record office. Death was registered at Easington, under Houghton le spring. Hopefully she is buried at houghton le spring cemetary or hetton le hole cemetary. Any suggestions/help/advice please.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 02 February 16 16:28 GMT (UK)
Contact them?

Addresses  and phone numbers for cemeteries on Sunderland Council website

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1978
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 16:51 GMT (UK)
Isabella died 1862, looking for her burial. maiden name Isabell turnbull.

Have you actually bought this death certificate, to be positive its the right person? The reason I ask is because Durham Records Online are showing the burial of an Isabella Atkinson in Houghton le Spring District in 1862, and she is only 3 years old.




Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 17:02 GMT (UK)
Death was registered at Easington, under Houghton le spring.

Easington and Houghton le Spring are separate Registration Districts. There's no 1862 death registered in Easington  :-\
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 February 16 18:16 GMT (UK)
1861 has her as Isabella Aitcheson (age 85)  :-\

(James Small married Isabella Aynsley/Ainsley in 1855 she has her son Robert age 20 with her in 1861.)
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 18:24 GMT (UK)
1861 has her as Isabella Aitcheson

Also Acheson in 1841 and Atchison in 1851  ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733178.msg5783571#msg5783571
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rayaco on Tuesday 02 February 16 20:07 GMT (UK)
In 1861 Census. Isabella Small age 38, b 1823, wife of James Small, Mother's name - Isabella Aitcheson. Civil parish - Hetton le Hole.
Household members -
James Small age 38
Isabella Small age 38
Jane Small age 6
Isabella Aitcheson age 85
Robert Amsley age 20
Isabella died in 1862, Hetton cemetary opened in 1891, Sunderland have done a search, but can't find a burial.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:20 GMT (UK)

Isabella died in 1862,

Did you not read reply #2 - the Isabella Atkinson that died in 1862 in Houghton le spring was a small child.
There isn't another death that year for another Isabella Atkinson/Aitchison/etc
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:23 GMT (UK)
Could she have moved to Lancashire?

Death
Apr/May/Jun 1863
Warrington
8c 92
Isabella Aitchason
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:24 GMT (UK)
You didn't answer my question: have you got the 1862 death certificate?
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: Jomot on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:31 GMT (UK)
Have you considered this one?

1864 Gateshead Isabella Atcheison Apr-Jun 10a /316

Durham Records Online free index has it as Isabella Atchison of High Turnpike Gate, born about 1766
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rayaco on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:36 GMT (UK)
Under England and Wales Death Registration 1837 2007, it records Isabella Atkinson's death in july-aug-sept 1862 Registration district- Houghton le spring. volume 10a, page 160, line number 30. Also on bmd is the death of isabella atkinson. sub registration district houghton
 Isabella was baptised 7th may 1779.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:38 GMT (UK)
You still haven't answered my question. Have you got that death certificate? If not,  how do you know it is 'your' Isabella?
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rayaco on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:46 GMT (UK)
Where would we get a death certificate from? We need a rough idea of where she died, this is what we are trying to find out. Info we have is from bmd and family search
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 02 February 16 21:57 GMT (UK)
Certificates can be ordered online from www.gro.gov.uk

But, seeing as a burial has been found for an Isabella in that area at that time, and it was for a toddler, then it seems likely that this death was for her.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 02 February 16 22:06 GMT (UK)
Under England and Wales Death Registration 1837 2007, it records Isabella Atkinson's death in july-aug-sept 1862 Registration district- Houghton le spring. volume 10a, page 160, line number 30. Also on bmd is the death of isabella atkinson. sub registration district houghton
 Isabella was baptised 7th may 1779.

Just because you have found the death of an Isabella Atkinson, doesn't mean you can automatically assume that it's your Isabella.

There is only one death of an Isabella Atkinson in Houghton R.D. in 1862 - the one in the 3rd quarter.  Durham Records Online only show one burial of an Isabella Atkinson in Houghton RD in the same year and this is a three year old child . It follows therefore that there is the strongest likelihood is that the death you assumed was your Isabella is in fact of this three year old child.

You need to look elsewhere I'm afraid.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 03 February 16 08:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rayaco

I was wondering what evidence you have that her surname is Atkinson - 1841, 51 & 61 have her as variations of Aitcheson/Acheson

1861 has her as Isabella Aitcheson

Also Acheson in 1841 and Atchison in 1851  ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733178.msg5783571#msg5783571


Rosie
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 03 February 16 08:39 GMT (UK)
I was wondering what evidence you have that her surname is Atkinson - 1841, 51 & 61 have her as variations of Aitcheson/Acheson

At marriage her husband's surname was given as Atkinson  :-\

WIlliam Atkinson married Isabella Turnbull at Heworth on 26th April 1800.
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 03 February 16 08:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jen  ;D
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: rayaco on Sunday 06 March 16 11:34 GMT (UK)
Sent for death certificate from gro for Isabella and the gro cannot find one. 1871 census gives her daughter isabella small living in pittington, durham, on her own, as a shop keeper. So can't confirm isabella death after 1861. Could be possible she moved to gateshead area and died there in 1864?
Title: Re: houghton le spring burial of isabella atkinson died sept 1862.
Post by: lizdb on Monday 07 March 16 10:05 GMT (UK)
Sent for death certificate from gro for Isabella and the gro cannot find one

But you had the GRO ref number?  Doesn't make sense!