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Title: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Tuesday 09 February 16 14:25 GMT (UK)
Hello,

PLEASE NOTE:  THIS SAME MESSAGE HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE NZ BOARD

These two brothers, born to Allan McQuarrie (1802-1846) and Johan McQuarrie (nee Stewart 1804-1856), in Edinburgh, Scotland, were both transported:

(1):   Andrew McQUARRIE arrived Auckland, NZ, 25/11/1842 aboard the "St. George" to complete a 7 year sentence as a "Free Immigrant" (similar to an "Exile"):

(2):   Colin McQUARRIE arrived Port Phillip, Williamstown, 25/01/1848 aboard the "Marion" to complete a 10 year sentence  as an "Exile".....initially employed by Mr. Lang of Melbourne as a Butcher for 12 months at £20 p.a.

I have fuller details of their family background from a Public Tree, but nothing has been retrieved for either person after their transportation, by myself or the Tree "Owner" who I have been in contact with.   I have tried the TROVE website in Australia and Papers Past in NZ to no avail sadly.

Can anyone help please?

BAC3

Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 09 February 16 14:59 GMT (UK)
Some discrepancy with arrival. ???

Colin McQuarrie

Convicted at:    Scotland. Edinburgh Court of Justiciary, sentence 10 years, aboard Marion departed,27th September, 1847, Arrived 9th January, 1848, Place Van Diemen's Land.

Neil

Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Tuesday 09 February 16 19:59 GMT (UK)
Sorry Neil....... but his disembarkation was Williamstown, Port Phillip......see below

http://prov.vic.gov.au/search_results?searchid=24&format=freetext&FamilyName=McQUARRIE&GivenName=&Ship=&Month=0&Monthto=0&Year=0&Yearto=0&SearchSortField1=&SearchSortField2=&SearchRecords=50&x=56&y=16

For some unknown reason this record quotes his age as "0" ???

And also Keith M. Clarke's "Convicts of the Port Phillip District" substantiates this PROV reference.

BAC3
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: Neil Todd on Tuesday 09 February 16 21:01 GMT (UK)
The ships record has it as landing at Van Diemans land however it may have only called there and then gone on to disembark the 299 at Williamstown. His age was given as 15 years. Convicted for Housebreaking.

Not much else however?

Neil
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 09 February 16 22:23 GMT (UK)
NSW state records, Index to convict exiles 1846-1850  has his age as 18
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/

Colin McQUARRIE age 18, ship Marion, trial city Edinburgh, trial date 19/2/1844, sentence 10 years, district Port Phillip.

Ros

Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 10 February 16 13:34 GMT (UK)
For some unknown reason this record quotes his age as "0" ???

The TNA (copy of daily sick list) - Ref: ADM 101/49/10/3 has him as 20yrs.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10536928

Both the Marion passenger & disposal lists have his age as 18yrs.

Do you have copies of these three documents?
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Wednesday 10 February 16 20:13 GMT (UK)
Merlin,

Thank you for your message.

I think my research on both brothers has hit that infamous "brick wall" ::)    The newspapers, TROVE and Papers Past, have been unproductive, as have those indexes that are available to me in the UK.    I do not subscribe at the uppermost level to A........y and therefore am unable to research the indigenous Australian/New Zealand records.

Incidentally, there was a third brother, Allan, who was transported to Western Australia, but he had not been at Parkhurst Prison and thus outside my interest.

Take care,

BAC3
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: Neil Todd on Wednesday 10 February 16 21:33 GMT (UK)
This may seem obvious but have you researched them with the name MACQUARIE? I used it unsuccessfully in searching but did not check NZ records. One has to be careful with that name as it also belongs to one of Australia's or NSW to be more correct, leading early Governors. Lachlan MACQUARIE. Which in it's true Scottish name is McQUARRIE.

Neil
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: marmic on Thursday 11 February 16 08:09 GMT (UK)
I am the GGGrandaughter of Alan McQuarrie and have also had no luck tracing the lives of his two older brothers . Alan never re offended and went on to live a good life and has many descendants in  Western Australia .
Good luck with your Parkhurst project .
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: rosball on Thursday 11 February 16 11:16 GMT (UK)
Hi marmic,
   Welcome to rootschat  :) :)

   When and where did Alan die?  Did his name become Macquarie?  There just may be some small clues to be found in Alan's life/death.

   It seems so sad that the brothers probably didn't meet up again ...  but I guess Victoria, N.Z. and W.A were a long way away especially in those days.

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Thursday 11 February 16 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hello marmic,

Thank you for your message.

My original contact via Ancestry Public Member Trees is a descendant of the McQUARRIE family and would like to contact you.   I have his name/email address etc. and will send you these details through a PERSONAL MESSAGE.   However, it is necessary that you have at least 3 postings to RootsChat before the facility becomes available and I suggest you send 2 more messages just saying "Hello", for instance, which will give you the magic 3 total.   I will then send the details.

Good luck,

BAC3
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Tuesday 16 February 16 14:17 GMT (UK)
Hello marmic,

I notice that you have not replied to my posting about contact with my correspondent in regard to
your mutual ancestor Alan McQUARRIE.   If you do not wish to do so please let me know.

For the moment,

BAC3
Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: JOTG_18 on Friday 27 April 18 06:23 BST (UK)
Hi - sorry for bumping this, but I'm another relation of Allan - (he was my 4th great uncle) - from what I can see, he died sometime in 1884 in Albany WA.

Title: Re: Andrew and Colin McQUARRIE, born 1826 and 1828 Edinburgh respectively
Post by: BAC3 on Friday 27 April 18 11:35 BST (UK)
Good Morning JOTG_18,

My interest in the McQUARRIE family essentially lies with Andrew and Colin, who had been inmates of Parkhurst Prison between 1838-1864, a period I am researching for a PhD, so Allan McQUARRIE was outside my remit so speak.   I assume he was named after his father Allan (mother Johan STEWART).

Sadly, my enquiries about Andrew and Colin have not produced any details about their lives "down under" and I would be delighted if you have any information whatsoever.   By the same token if I can help in any way about Allan and his "emigration" via the "Adelaide" to WA do please let me know.

For the moment,

BAC3