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Title: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: JohninAus on Friday 12 February 16 09:44 GMT (UK)
I have long sought John Arliss' parents.

 John Arliss, butcher, was born about 1789 or 90 based on his death age 57 in 1847.

He married Sarah Hockney in 1818 and ran a butchery on Walkergate, Louth (one of 2 on that street) which was taken over by surviving family.

I am dubious of others' interpretation of his parents as John Arliss and Mary Dobson (their son John was b 1787 in Yarburgh). Here's why:

1828 and 29 Pigotts Directories have a George Arliss, butcher on the same street (Walkergate) but George has gone by the 1841 census. John may have taken this business over from George . It may even have been a long term family enterprise because George Arliss was apprenticed to a John Arliss, butcher, even earlier (1773).

So, I'm wondering if John Arliss could be a son of George Arliss and Bellamy Atkin who married in Louth in 1784...even though I can't find a record of his birth.
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: groom on Friday 12 February 16 12:35 GMT (UK)
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.         I am dubious of others' interpretation of his parents as John Arliss and Mary Dobson (John b 1787 in Yarburgh).                   
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If these dates are right, he can't be the father of your John, who you say was was born 1791.
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 12 February 16 13:11 GMT (UK)
This one may help sort out people  ???

Stamford Mercury 08 October 1819
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 12 February 16 13:14 GMT (UK)
Stamford Mercury 24 November 1843.
Marriage
at Hull on the 31st Oct.
Mr John Arliss , butcher of Louth  to Miss Sarah Hurst
only daughter of widow Hurst, also of Louth.

Lincolnshire Chronicle 02 April 1847
Death notice.
At Louth on the 24th March, John Arliss, Butcher aged 57.



Eilleen.
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: suzard on Friday 12 February 16 13:28 GMT (UK)
This one may help sort out people  ???

Stamford Mercury 08 October 1819

but might this be the son of the deceased John Arliss?

1841
Kidgate Louth Lincs
John Arliss 65 tailor
Elizabeth 60
Matilda 35 dressmaker
all b in county
HO107 639 18

Suz
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 12 February 16 13:32 GMT (UK)
Stamford Mercury 19 February 1830
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 12 February 16 13:36 GMT (UK)
Just adding things as I find them  :)
got a day off work ;)

Stamford Mercury 09 September 1864

Death at Louth ,24th Aug, aged 77, widow Sarah Arliss.
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 12 February 16 13:37 GMT (UK)
Burial of John ARLISS
26 March 1847 aged 57

(top right) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=715062&iid=122507
Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: JohninAus on Wednesday 17 February 16 13:40 GMT (UK)
Thankyou one and all,

That knocks out my hypothesis that John Arliss (died 1847) took over the business from George Arliss.

Butchery is clearly an Arliss trade though. As well as the two Johns and George mentioned in my original post there's also a William in 1841.

Given that I have Arliss's in two different branches of my tree, and an ever growing spread sheet of hundreds of them, I'll persevere.

Thanks again

Title: Re: John Arliss, butcher, Louth (died 1847)
Post by: JohninAus on Tuesday 12 December 17 09:53 GMT (UK)
The collective noun for butchers is a goring...which is what this family has done to me since I began the search for John Arliss, butcher in 2008....a mere 9 years ago.
Findmypast just solved it I believe....John Arliss bap Louth, 1790, son of Matthew Arliss (butcher) and Sarah Harrison who married 1777 in Louth.
Matthew, George and William...all butchers...were the sons of Thomas Arlis and Anne Coupland...now, if only I could find the earlier generation.