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Title: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Monday 15 February 16 20:54 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am trying to find details on my Great uncle James Gallagher, who emigrated to New York from Ireland. He was born in 1879, son of Hugh Gallagher and Bridget(Biddy) Gallagher (nee Hanlon).I have found a death on 24th October 1912 in Manhattan for a James Gallagher,aged 32. His parents' names match and he was unmarried. My great uncle was also single but I never heard it said that he died so young.I am looking for any additional information on this gentleman,so as to establish if he is indeed my great uncle. His address at time of death was 351 West 30th Street New York, his occupation is listed as Fireman and he was buried in Calvary Cemetery on 29th October 1912.

Thanks.
Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 16 February 16 20:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Paul:

I've not yet found anything for you, sorry.

It's a long story, but when I was about 12 years old we thought we had found a distant Irish relative - names, dates and other facts tied my ancestor (who had an unusual surname) to this lady's "John" who left Ireland in the early 1800's.  Several years ago, when I was researching, I found out that my ancestor could not have been our common ancestor.  While I do believe my ancestor could be the nephew or cousin of her John (I've yet to find solid proof), we all did make a mistake.  I've since learned to never assume anything.

If your James' parents were Hugh Gallagher and Bridget Hanlon, and looking at the New York death record for James Gallagher, I would "assume" that the man who died in 1912 is your great uncle.  But, I would try to get more facts before stating he is your relative.

I tried a brief search and did not find anything, but have you tried the following sites:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/#tab=tab_advanced_search
  Newspaper search.  In the past, I've used general terms when searching.  If Mr. Gallagher died in an accident, they may have publishing an article about his death without including his name.
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
  Newspaper search.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  Grave search - a number of cemeteries have not yet been included and some cemeteries are only partially researched.

I hope this helps (if you haven't already tried the above sites).
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 16 February 16 21:40 GMT (UK)
Do you have any idea when he sailed to America and what his occupation was, please?
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: knort33 on Wednesday 17 February 16 03:31 GMT (UK)
James Gallagher is such a common name that it would help if you have any additional details or clues that would help a search focus in on the right party.  Do you have a middle name or initial for him?  Do you know the name of his wife and her estimated year of birth?  Do you know the names of his children and when they were born?  What year did he immigrate?

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Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Wednesday 17 February 16 21:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa,thanks for the reply.I have spent  hours trying to find the record of him sailing to America, without success. In fact I can't find the records of him or his 2 brothers John and Hugh, sailing to America. I think part of the problem is they all have such common names. What I can say is that according to the 1910 US census, all 3 of them arrived between 1905 and 1907.James's occupation is listed as a motorman in a car company. 
Hi Knort33,I unfortunately don't have a middle name or initial.And as he never married, no wife or children details.
Thanks.
Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: knort33 on Thursday 18 February 16 03:07 GMT (UK)
What is the name of the city and county where you found the 1910 census record?
What year was Hugh born, according to the census?
What year was John born, according to the census?
On the 1910 census record you looked at, are all 3 brothers listed as living in the same residence?
What is the address they are living at?

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Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 18 February 16 10:32 GMT (UK)
In answer to the questions of Knort above - Census showing the 3 brothers together -  1910 West 15th Street Manhattan Ward 16, New York, New York.

Catherin Mc Donnell   41 Joseph Mcdonnell   10 Catherine Mcdonnell   8
Patrick Flood   41
James Gallagher   32 Born 1878 Ireland. Imm 1906. Motor Man. Car Co.
Hugh Gallagher   27 Born 1883 Ireland. Im 1905. Labourer. Garage.
John Gallagher   23 Born Ireland 1887. Imm 1907. Fireman. Hotel.
Joseph Mcmunigan   26
James Prunty   24
Barnard Rorke   23

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP1F-G2G

Sandra
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 18 February 16 11:24 GMT (UK)
Impossible to tel if this could be the right one - there is a New York Passenger List - James Gallagher - born 1878 Donegal, single, labourer - arriving 12 May 1907 on the Caledonia Londonderry to New York. Final destination Philadelphia to brother Hugh Gallagher 2204 Keator St ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Thursday 18 February 16 13:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra, thanks for supplying that information to knort33. I have also found several examples of James Gallaghers travelling to their brothers John or Hugh, and as you say, it is impossible to know if you have the right one. That's why I thought I would approach this thread from the 'other side',( no pun intended), to see if I could gather any more information on the James Gallagher who died in Manhattan on 24th October 1912, and see if working backwards would lead me to my Great uncle.

Thanks.
Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 18 February 16 13:37 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately, there won't be many more records that we can find - perhaps the death certificate would give you the information of who was the informant and might indicate if the death was a result of an accident - I have glanced thru http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html but so far nothing  :'(
Have you traced the other 2 brother - Hugh and John after 1910  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Thursday 18 February 16 20:53 GMT (UK)
Hi. Yes I have traced James's 2 brothers John and Hugh.John settled in Brooklyn, New York and Hugh settled in Fairfield,Connecticut. Both married after arriving in America and both had families. Each of them called one of their sons James, presumably after 'our' James as their father's name was Hugh.

Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Saturday 06 June 20 13:13 BST (UK)
Hi, just wondering if anyone is aware of additional records coming into the public domain in the intervening 4 plus years since I last posted on this thread that would help establish if the James Gallagher mentioned here is my great uncle? For example, are death certs from New York for 1912 now viewable on-line?

Thanks.
Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 06 June 20 13:32 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE


James Gallagher   18 Jul 1879 Lettermacaward, County Donegal -    24 Oct 1912 (aged 33)
Manhattan, New York County (Manhattan), New York.
BURIAL    Calvary Cemetery Woodside, Queens County, New York, USA
PLOT   Section 36, Range 2, Plot N, Grave 21

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/167463864

Eldest son of Hugh Gallagher and Bridget(Hanlon)Gallagher.
Brother of Hugh Gallagher (Bridgeport,Connecticut),John Gallagher(Brooklyn),Patrick Gallagher,Hannah,Susan and Mary,all of Ireland.

Sandra
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: City Hall on Saturday 06 June 20 14:23 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra.
Paul.
Title: Re: Have I found the right James Gallagher in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 06 June 20 14:26 BST (UK)

New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WYN-3P8

Sandra