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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: Tineke on Sunday 21 February 16 16:04 GMT (UK)
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Please can anyone help with more information on John Grime b 1777 Saint Oswald Ashbourne Derbyshire He married Elisabeth Clark there in 1794 Any information on his parents or Elisabeth would be great Many thanks Tineke
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Where did you find his year and place of birth? Did that source not name his parents?
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Hello I found John in the 1841 census which gave his age and place of birth so no clues to parents he died in 1850.. His marriage I found in the Parish Records which was 1794 St Oswald Ashbourne .
Tineke
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1841 does not give a place of birth, only if they were born in or out of the county where they were then living.
So, if he said "yes" then he could have been born anywhere in Derbyshire.
What age was he as death? Remember ages in 1841 census are rounded, usually down to nearest 5 years.
If he was actually bn 1777 he would have only been 17 at the 1794 marriage - did it record that he was a minor (ie under 21)
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Hi,
From www.familysearch.org, you can see the actual parish register for the 1794 marriage you
have to sign in but access is free:-
John Grime, batchelor, of Ashbourne Parish and Elizabeth Clark, spinster, of the parish of Bradley
married by licence. Witness - John Clark & John Langford.
John signs Elizabeth makes her mark.
I can only find one John Grime on the 1841 Census living Yeldersley Parish of Ashbourne:-
Grime John 70 (1771) Ag. Lab
" William 23 (1818) " "
" Ellen 23 (1818)
" John 1
All born Derbyshire.
Is this the family?
William Grime Bpt 27.9.1795 Bradley Derbyshire son of John & Elizabeth Grime.
This William possibly married 2.4.1815 Ashbourne, to Ann Gibbs (again register on familysearch)
Producing William born 25th March 1818 Bpt 24th Jan 1819 Ashbourne, son of William & Ann.
William born 1818 then married Ellen?, and produces John bpt 18th April 1840 Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
So william born 1818 and family are living with his Grandfather on the 1841 census.
Spendlove
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Hi,
Possible birth for John Gryme Bpt 28th Dec 1770 Bradley Derbyshire son of Joseph & Sarah Gryme.
There are other children born to this couple.
Spendlove
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Many thanks Spendlove You have the right family William was their son married to Ellen Beardsley To date I have 7 of their children Grateful thanks Tineke
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Hi,
So John Grime was born abt 1770 the son of Joseph & Sarah Gryme.
These are possible siblings all bpt at Bradley, Derbyshire:-
Hannah Grime bpt 6th August 1758
Mary Gryme bpt 7th July 1765
Thomas Grime bpt 1st April 1768
JOHN GRYME bpt 28th December 1770
There is also a burial at Ashbourne of Eliz: Grime dau of Joseph Grime of Yeldersley 27th Sept 1756,
However I cannot find a bpt for her or a marriage for Joseph & Sarah.
Spendlove
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FindMyPast has the marriage licence of 7 Jun 1794, details:
John GRIME of Yieldersley p. Ashbourne age 24 bachelor farmer and Elizabeth CLARK 24 spinster of Bradley. Bond by John CLARK of Bradley, servant. To be married at Ashbourne.
John GRIME made his mark and John CLARK signed. Would be interesting to compare the signatures of the John CLARKE. Wonder why John GRIME would sign the marriage register but only make his mark on the licence allegation?
Darryl
Sydney Australia
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Hi Darryl,
I do not have access to FindMyPast, but the marriage register is on www.familysearch.org you have
to sign in but it is free.
Can you take a look and compare the signatures.
Spendlove
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FindMyPast has the marriage licence of 7 Jun 1794, details:
John GRIME of Yieldersley p. Ashbourne age 24 bachelor farmer and Elizabeth CLARK 24 spinster of Bradley. Bond by John CLARK of Bradley, servant. To be married at Ashbourne.
John GRIME made his mark and John CLARK signed. Would be interesting to compare the signatures of the John CLARKE. Wonder why John GRIME would sign the marriage register but only make his mark on the licence allegation?
Darryl
Sydney Australia
theresJohn born 1819 20 in Bradley also listed yeardsley/ Married Elizabeth Draper n lived churchgate prestbury in 1860 sons William gibbs grime Clarence daughter Sarah Ann grime n John/ Clarence born 1850 Macclesfield lived in Hollins Rd oldham Lancashire in 1901 Clarence sister Emma Draper married John layland in Macclesfield daughter Sarah Ann layland married Charles Henry Clarke in 1886 in Macclesfield Clarence grime was scrap metal collector