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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: prysowenr on Monday 22 February 16 11:44 GMT (UK)
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I have a marriage certificate for a William Roach and a Johanna Lewis 10th July 1838 at Llanhowel.
William was a Mason at Llanhowel and his father was Erasmus Roach.Johanna lived at Fagwr Eilw Lane and her father was William Lewis.
Just wondering if anyone has any further details of the two families.
Many Thanks
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1841
Llanhowell
William Roach 30 mason Y
Joannah 20 Y
Thomas 2
Not seeing any other Roachs specifically in Llanhowell in 1841
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Hi on at least one of the census returns William gives place of birth Letterston :-
1841 census
Erasmus Roach 85
Anne 65
Residing at Rosegwellt, Letterston
Census ref HO107/1444/ 14/19 / 12
Marriage 15th December 1796 Llanwnda
Erasmus Roach Widower
Ann Llewhelin Spinster
Grooms Parish Letterston
Brides Parish Llanwnda
Keyboard86
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Hi again, cannot at present locate a baptism for William, but it looks like family also used the alternative spelling of ROCH:-
Ann Roch 1804
Thomas 1802
Both Letterston
Father Erasmus Mother Ann
Keyboard86
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Maybe nothing but 1887 map shows a rhysgwyllt about a mile north of Letteston with a quarry very close by.
There is a village called Roch on the coast, it is always pronounced Roach.
Definitely of no use but Letterston has a renowned fish and chip shop. :) :)
Mike
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Definitely of no use but Letterston has a renowned fish and chip shop. :) :)
I'd say that was VERY useful info to have up one's sleeve if ever in the area!
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;D
Burial 19th January 1844 Letterston Erasmus Roach aged 91
Keyboard86
EDIT Joannah on various census returns gives b c 1815 Walton or Walton East, Pembrokeshire
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Hi again William 70 occ Stonemason b Letterston and Joanna 66 b Walton East plus David 35 and Daughter Allet 22 b Whitchurch have with them a Joanna J Evans aged 6 b Prendergast, Haverfordwest in 1881 shown as Grandaughter birth reg Johanna Jane Evans March qtr 1875 Haverfordwest 11a 999
I realise this is not keeping to the subject matter, but cannot work out parentage?
Keyboard86
EDIT Plus 1851 anybody?!
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:) I know she married a Robert Everett Morris b 3rd March 1877 Wales as she is shown as wife at his death in Vancouver, British Columbia in 1949
Keyboard86
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Census indicate there were daughters called Sarah , Ann , Mary and Elizabeth.
Any one of them could have married an Evans (and, seeing as this is Wales, every chance they ALL could have done!!)
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;D That has been my problem!
The couple married March qtr 1902 Liverpool 8b 255? If correct Johanna??
Keyboard86
PS in 1901 he is b 1877 Wrexham, Denbighshire occ Provision Warehouse Hand in Toxteth Park
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??? would at present ignore the 1902 marriage and concentrate on birth, as really not sure now the 1902 marriage is the. correct lady??
Keyboard86
Sorry all
EDIT What happened to Allet Roach b July 1857 Haverfordwest 11a 705 with William & Johanna until 1881?
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Many Thanks for all the replies, there's plenty there to work on might even try the Fish and Chips one of these days
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Hi again,
1851 census Wales on Anc***
Joanna Roach occ Masons wife b Walton
Thomas 12 b Llanhowell
Margaret 7 b Llanhowell
David 4 b Llanhowell
Martha 2 b St David's
Census ref HO107/2479/223/12
Keyboard86
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what would you like to know about the roach family they are ancestors of mine and I have been doing research for a couple of years
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on Joanna j evans birth certificate it states mothers name ruth evans father unknown it leaves 2 questions did William and johanna have a daughter ruth all my records show they did not. did one of the roach boys William or Thomas father a daughter by ruth evans their other brother david was my great great grandfather and I know it was not him there are no other women in the roach family with the first name ruth, however johanna lewis did have a sister ruth
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Hi
My Great Great Grandfather a John Hughes born in Betws y Coed abt 1845 married a Mary Roach born in Llanhowel abt 1844.They married 29th March 1845 in Swansea.The Certificate states that Mary's Father was a Wiiliam Roach a Mason.
I have another marriage certificate for a William Roach a Mason from Llanhowel who married a Johanna Lewis on 10th July 1838 in Llanhowel.
The marriage certificate says William's Father was a Erasmus Roach and Johanna's Father was a William Lewis.
I was just trying to get some further information about the Roach and Lewis families.
Many Thanks
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hi Erasmus roach married anne Llewelyn on December 15 1796 at llanwnda pembrokeshire they lived at rosegwelt letterston on the original wedding transcript it states that Erasmus was a widow and the wedding was witnessed by a james roach all the early parish records for letterston were destroyed in a fire I do believe that there are some bishops transcripts for the area held at the national library of wales Erasmus and anne had three children that I have records of hanna 1812. david1816 and William 1811 who married johanna lewis and was a stone mason they had eight children together thomas1839.margaret1842.mary 1844 Martha.1849 my gg grand father david 1851 William 1852 Elizabeth ann 1855 allet 1857 all born llanhowell wich is now the parish of witchurch near solva all the girls went into service what I can see I found Martha in Monmouth shire her married name was parnell I found Elizabeth ann in Cheshire the last record I have of mary roach is the 1861 census in service if you don't mind what year did she marry john hughes
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Many Thanks for your reply it is very helpful.John Hughes married Mary Roach 29th March 1869 in Swansea.He was a Slater-Plasterer by trade so was most probably working in South Wales for a short period and met Mary while she was in service.Do you know where Mary was in service ?
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on the 1861 census she is in the parish of whitchurch pembrokeshire with the prossert family I believe that the prossets ran a large farm and that she was employed as a dairy maid
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forgot to mention you said that john hughes was a slater at the time there was a huge slate qaurrey in whitchurch my relatives worked there and Erasmus roach occupation was a thatcher