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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: syljun on Tuesday 01 March 16 20:11 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone access Banger family tree to see what connection Albert Henry Harding b. 1890 Somerset is on it please. Albert emigratd to U.S.A 1907 Age 17yrs. He died 1948 Minnesota - Fort Snelling National Cemetery,.
Unable to find out if he ever married and had issue. Looks like he may have stayed single.
Just found mention of his name and born Somerset.
Many thanks for any help, Syljun
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Hi,
No wife or issue on the tree. Equally there is no mother or father recorded.
On his United States World War I Draft Registration Cards he is recorded as single -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K87G-23P
JJ
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Thanks JJen, Yes I have seen info. on Family search which is where I found him. Wondered what connection there was. I am a Harding by birth with connection to his family. 1901 Census has him as Grandson so probably son of one of the daughters. Not too close to warrant buying B/Cert but curiosity may get the better of me. Still wonder where he comes in on Banger family tree. Is there anyone still active to communicate with?
Thank you, Syljun
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On the tree there is no evidence of a connection to the Banger family. However there are other Hardings on the tree but again these are not connected to Albert Henry ???
Needs a bit more investigation.............
JJ
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Thanks JJen, Seems strange to have someone not obviously connected.Is it a case of name picking.
Curious to know other Harding names if not being too cheeky to ask.
I seem to be the only one researching Somerset Harding family and can only go back to 1803 so going sidewards to keep my interest going having left off for about a year.
Hope I am not being a bother.
Regards, Syljun
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Thanks JJen, Seems strange to have someone not obviously connected.Is it a case of name picking.
Curious to know other Harding names if not being too cheeky to ask.
I seem to be the only one researching Somerset Harding family and can only go back to 1803 so going sidewards to keep my interest going having left off for about a year.
Hope I am not being a bother.
Regards, Syljun
Hi Syljun,
I have Hardings that lived in West Buckland on my tree; not sure if these are connected to yours?
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The Banger tree has 15 Harding people in it, and only 157 people total. Owner last logged in last week. Very sparse tree for 10 year membership.
When you tip the tree into pedigree you can see that the home person descends from William Harding c 1812 Chilton, Somerset and his son Frederick b 1847.
Salute,
Janelle
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Whoopee, Yes we have a connection. William being my Grt.Grt.Grandfather. Slight twist in this family as to relations. Albert Henry being grandson of Frederick.
Frederick died and his wife Fanny married Frederick's nephew Francis. 1901 Census has Francis (Frank) and Fanny with Albert Henry being grandson.
Frederick's brother Charles Harding was my Grt. Grandfather. Francis his son.
Thank you so much Janelle. I do not suppose the person with the Banger tree is interested in getting in touch but nice to know I am not alone doing research on the Harding family.
Best wishes, Syljun
Clarky 500, Cannot recall touching on West Bucknall for Harding family, sorry. Syljun
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Clarky 500, Cannot recall touching on West Bucknall for Harding family, sorry. Syljun
Hi syljun,
Never mind! However, they seem to appear in West Buckland in the mid 1700's out of nowhere so you never know - I'll keep looking! :)
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Hi, I do have a George Harding whose birthplace I have never been able to find c. 1771 so if you have a spare you cannot account for he may be mine. George Harden/Harding died 1845 before birthplace on Census. Burial Stawell, Somerset Churchyard. This is why I cannot go further back with family. He married Joan Holly 1803 at Moorlinch Church. I have over the years tried to search for baptisms for George in many Villages but have always followed through and they have been accounted for.
Good luck with research,
Syljun
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Have you seen the Ancestry entry for Albert Henry Harding, born 26 May 1890, son of Frank Harding and Fanny Lawrence? This shows his place of birth as Stawell Some, Somerset. The source of this information is the US Social Security Applications and Claims Index 1936-2007.
There is an entry on the 1901 census which shows Albert Harding, age 11, Grandson, born Stawell, Somerset. He is in the household of Frank Harding, age 38, Carter on Farm, married, born Stawell. His wife is shown as Fanny Harding, age 48, Dressmaker, born Chilton Polden, Somerset. There is also William H Harding, stepson, age 23, and Minnie Harding, daughter, age 13. They are living at Manor Farm, it says house and buildings, in Stawell.
RG13/2286 Folio 125 Page 4.
Jo
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Thank you Jo, I have all the info. you mention and believe Albert Henry Harding b.1890 may have been son of one of the daughters of Frederick and Fanny if he is indeed the Grandson as 1901.
As I explained without his birth/cert cannot be sure which one. Elizabeth dau. of Frederick and Fanny did not marry and died 1918 Weston-super-Mare.
Albert Henry died 2nd Aug.1948 and is buried Fort Snelling National Cemetery.
Thank you for your interest Jo, much appreciated.
Any connection? Lots of Harding's around.
Syljun
P.S. As explained Frederick died and Fanny then married Frederick's nephew. I believe Frank and Fanny had one daughter Minnie. 1891 Census has Albert age two Grandson. Living Main Road, Stawell.
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1930 census in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota states he was first married at age 25 years and he is widowed.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra, I did wonder if that was him. Any chance of finding wife's name. Wonder if he had any children. Perhaps not. Albert lived in Veterans home in latter years.
Many thanks.Every little bit of info. helps to build up picture. Quite a few of Harding family emigrated to U.S.A. Sadly no-one seems to search for English roots (me being Welsh) Grandfather being only one to look for work in Cardiff.
Thanks again, Syljun
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Seems Albert Henry Harding naturalized in Mower but there is a lack of detail to help with date ???
Reel 3 - Code 12 - Volume 3 - Page 35 ??? We know he was there to register for the WW1 draft - 5 June 1917 but can't see him in 1920. He was single at that point - so not married or widowed which he should be if the 1930 was correct. ??? More questions than answers ???
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra, There seems to be a lot of Albert Harding's but location is usually a good point. I would not think they were all in same place but birth year seems to be popular for Albert Harding's so can easily cause confusion.
Not to worry, I was hoping there were descendants.
Thanks again, Syljun
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No, I'm not linked to this Harding line as far as I am aware. My Harding family originate from Somerset (but go back to Pewsey, Wiltshire) they were from villages such as West Cranmore, Doulting, Cloford, Wanstrow and surrounding areas.
I note that in the 1891 census, there are 2 daughters of Frederick and Fanny Harding, Elizabeth age 20 and Louisa, age 18. A tree on Ancestry has another daughter by the name of Emily Jane Harding. Emily married in 1896. As you say, Albert Henry is likely to be the son of one of these. Has anyone examined the parish registers of Stawell to see if there is a baptism for him? I cannot find a birth registration.
There are some lovely photos of this family on the Vaughan tree on Ancestry. Enter the details of Fanny Lawrence to access this.
Jo.
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Thanks Jo, I would love to see photos but I do not have access to Ancestry. Been researching for about 20yrs and having spent vast amount of money along the way do not feel it would be prudent to join at this stage.
Any chance of contacting person who owns tree?
I do have Wiltshire Hardings in family. Will look them up and get bqck. You never know.
Regards,
Syljun
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HI
It is possible to send a message on your behalf Syljun and direct them to this thread to make contact with you.
Regards
Sandra
Added - message sent 5/3/2016 - 13.04
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Hi Sandra, It would be great if contact could be made to see photos and ascertain relationship connection. I know these Family trees can open if a Guest is invited as it happened sometime ago for me with another branch even if the owner does not wish to make personal contact.
If you could possibly make contact in my name I would be grateful and see what happens.
Regards,
Syljun
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Seems to be photograph on tree of Fanny Lawerence, Charles Lawerence, Jane Lawerence and Isaac Lawerence, father John Lawerence and Elizabeth Howe and Fanny's daughter Minnie, some of the other entries are just census, birth registrations etc.,
Fingers crossed
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra, Here's hoping.
Syljun
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Further note of Elizabeth dau. of Frederick and Fanny Harding. Believe her to be Mother of Albert Henry as per above. Elizabeth had two more children Lilian b. 1806 and Sydney George 1909.
1911 Census has them living at "The Moor" Banwell.
My question is if Elizabeth did die 1918 what happened to her two children. Elizabeth has shaved a few years off her age.
Anyone help with info. as to children.1918 Lilian would have been 11yrs of age and Sydney 7yrs of age.
Can anyone find info. on death of Elizabeth to see if correct one. Her age on Census is 32.Death entry 38yrs.
Thank you in advance for any help to solve mystery. Syljun