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Title: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 02 March 16 17:13 GMT (UK)
I've just found my great-aunt in the 1939 Register. She's described as a High School Mistress - so far so good - but still there in the occupation column there is (R). She's living I would think as a boarder with some unrelated ladies, so not in her school.
The (R) is emphatically not in the column that contains notes on ARP, WVS and the like.
Anyone know what it means?

Thanks as always
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 02 March 16 18:32 GMT (UK)
It may mean  Reserved Occupation,  but that is only a guess.

What was the address please?
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 02 March 16 23:12 GMT (UK)
Katharine E E Simons b 7th January 1869; at 25 Enys Road, Eastbourne.

The (R) is ever so clear and I've not seen it in other records.
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 03 March 16 07:58 GMT (UK)
Katharine E E Simons b 7th January 1869; at 25 Enys Road, Eastbourne.

The (R) is ever so clear and I've not seen it in other records.

That record does not tie up with your original query  :-\
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 03 March 16 08:17 GMT (UK)
Oops - wrong great-aunt! My apologies - this 1939 stuff is getting to me!

This is the correct sister:

Blanche Evelyn Selwyn Simons, indexed as Blanche Selwy-Simons. B 14th September 1863, resident Museum Hill Cottage, Haslemere. A search on Blanche Simons 1863 brings her up easily.

Occupation transcribed as High School Mistress (K) but looking at the image it is (R).
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 03 March 16 08:22 GMT (UK)
I was beginning to think it was me  ;D   ;D

I wonder if it just meant 'retired' She was well past the age to have been still teaching.
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 03 March 16 09:22 GMT (UK)
Obvious - brilliant - why didn't I think of that? Thank you so much.....

These sisters were a determined bunch - four of the five didn't marry and all lived well into their nineties. They were great at economising. Of another sister, this tale reached the local Press:

Mrs Hilda Howells, who joined Porteynon and Horton WI in 1931, recalls a wartime economy cookery demonstration by "Elsie" (Phoebe) using sardines. She told her audience: "We will take the heads and tails for the recipe, and keep the bodies for the next dish."
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: ScouseBoy on Thursday 03 March 16 09:29 GMT (UK)
Before WW2, once a female school teacher got married she could no longer remain a school teacher.

Therefore some female teachers who loved the job may perhaps have decided NOT  to get married.
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 03 March 16 10:00 GMT (UK)
I love the sardine economy idea, not sure OH would be impressed though  ;D
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: majm on Thursday 03 March 16 10:27 GMT (UK)
Agh, so that's why the cans of sardines are full of headless and tailess sardines...  :)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: Kattjewels on Friday 26 February 21 15:08 GMT (UK)
Hello, am new to this.

I was wondering what a 'B' in the 11th column might mean?

Pretty sure it's not Baptism, as not that common.

Anyone else come across this?

TIA
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 25 March 21 18:51 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Katt  :D

Are you referring to the 1939 Register?

You don't normally see what is on that page as it is on the right hand side of the register.  Occasionally you do get to see bits of it.  The right hand page is what the NHS used to record various pieces of information.

The only information that is meant to be visible is all the information in Columns 1 to 10.

Can you give some indication as to where you saw that?
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: liliblue on Thursday 15 April 21 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi, Kattjewels,

I’m new to RootsChat, so hopefully I’m doing this reply right, but the “B” in the 11th column may indicate the age range of the person in that row. I saw a Wikipedia article that mentioned something about that. This is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Registration_Act_1939 Hope that helps! Also, for some of the other abbreviations in the 11th column, I found this website: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/who-do-you-think-you-are-magazine/20180313/282969630571089.
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: HadawayInsight on Wednesday 15 December 21 13:16 GMT (UK)
My first post here but I've been using the '1939 register' for years. This (quite distant) relative married a Mr Hall not long after the register. That's not the problem. Later, either said Mr Hall died or they divorced. The added letters seem to indicate that she married a Mr Crows. I can't find such union.
I can't tell if the letters are
lower case t m/c OR
E m/c
(I'm assuming it is referring to a marriage certificate having been viewed by the record keeper)
In addition, EST doesn't seem to refer to any area code that I've seen. Any ideas?
Many thanks
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 15 December 21 18:04 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Presumably this is her birth

ELLIOTT, ETHEL  SNOWBALL     mmn CHARLTON 
GRO Reference: 1904  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 183


   
Ethel Snowball Crowe
Birth   27 Apr 1904
Death  Oct 1982 Eastbourne, East Sussex

Marriage Mar qtr 1970 
CRAWE    Robert   
HALL    Ethel S   
Eastbourne    5h   331

It makes you wonder which spelling is correct  :)
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: HadawayInsight on Wednesday 15 December 21 19:32 GMT (UK)
That's fantastic. Thank you. I should widen my ferreting about, not just rely on Ancestry. That allows me to tidy up a branch of my tree.
Title: Re: The 1939 Register and cryptic abbreviations
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 16 December 21 11:19 GMT (UK)
I am glad that we have answered the query,  presumably the EST was someones abbreviation for Eastbourne  :).