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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: maggie smith on Wednesday 02 March 16 19:18 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for the MAIDEN name of Mary Kiely, she married an Edmond KIELY and they lived at 23 Gallowshill, Dungarvan. They had 10 siblings, one of which was a Rev JOHN M Kiely. I f I am able to find this link with your help I will be able to finish my family tree.
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Have you got a date?
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Hi, The only way I have found this info is from the 1901 census. I think they were married in 1877 and James Kiely born 1889 a married Margaret Condon in 1917 and she died in 1963 I learnt from my mother (who came to UK in 1930 that Rev John Kiely was her cousin. I also believe that Mon John Kielys brother married to sis Condon I do not know her proper name
Many thanks
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Hello,
I have found them now.
Have you looked for a marriage?
http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
Both Ancestry and Find My Past have indexed these registers. You might find them.
There are also civil indexes here https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
Heywood
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Thank you so much. Can you tell me the surname. Of the bride and what year the marriage was please
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Oh sorry. I meant found them in the census.
You would need to look at those options I have posted to see if the marriage is there.
You say they married in 1877 - how do you know this?
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I worked it out from the dates of birth of the siblings on the national archives Census in 2011. It has taken me this long to get almost to the end.
I will now use the links that you soundly gave me and hope that the puzzle is now finished.
Many thanks and God Bless you
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I have been looking and it is not that easy! The parish records are really poor!
I will keep looking and see if I can find anything also!
There is a Dungarvan marriage 1877 with Edmond Kiely and Maria/Mary Tobin.
There is also 1877 marriage in Waterford.
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If you look here at baptism 542 I think the parents are Edmond Kiely and Mary Tobin.
It is such a pity that others on the page are so much clearer!
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632184#page/42/mode/1up
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There are some published trees which show Edmond's wife as Mary Tobin.
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The marriage is here http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632183#page/66/mode/1up
March 20th 1877
The entry begins with 'cum dispens... ' and I think mentions 'consanguinity' which would mean they were related.
Rechecked- that's the one below I think. Theirs is a different dispensation possibly - too feint to read.
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Wow the plot thickens!!!!!!
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Wow the plot thickens!!!!!!
Just had another look I think it's the one below that has that dispensation - theirs is a different one!
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Phew what a releave
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They would only be cousins!
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I think the record reads something like "dispensation to banns... tempore". In tempore means "in the matter of time" i.e. short notice. So it seems that the notice given of intention to marry was short, and a dispensation was also granted on that basis. The witnesses look like Thomas Tobin and Bridget Phelan? It's hard to read.
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James Kiely born 1889 a married Margaret Condon in 1917 ... I also believe that Mon John Kielys brother married to sis Condon I do not know her proper name
Do you mean that another brother of James and Fr John married another Condon?
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Waterford museum have a photo of Monsignor John Kiely's funeral available for purchase.
http://www.waterfordmuseum.ie/exhibit/web/BasicImageSearch/offset/1371/order_prints/1/