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Title: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: Rach72 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:00 GMT (UK)
Good Evening

Can anyone help looking for Parents of Eliza Turner Morley who married the cricketer William Barnes. Mansfield Nottinghamshire 1881?  Many Thanks
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 06 March 16 18:06 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for a birth for her on freebmd?  www.freebmd.org.uk

The marriage was before the 1881 census - so have you looked on that census to establish her age and birthplace?

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2562194?collectionNameFilter=false

Using that information you can look for her on the 1871 census which is free here

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false

Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 06 March 16 18:13 GMT (UK)
A possibility in 1881

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXD-KKMB
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:14 GMT (UK)
1891 gives her age as 35 born Mansfield. Born c1856
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 06 March 16 18:24 GMT (UK)
I have a feeling she was born as Turner - probably illegitimate - and her mother married a Morley
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 06 March 16 18:31 GMT (UK)
Two possibilities - Ann Turner - Francis Morley on same page - Dec qtr 1857

Sarah Turner - Henry Morley on same page Sept qtr 1858

In 1861 - Francis & Ann Morley have a 3yr old daughter Ann Eliza b Mansfield

You need the 1881 marriage cert
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: JJen on Sunday 06 March 16 18:32 GMT (UK)
Following on from Carole's suggestion I wonder if this is the Turner/Morley family on the 1861 -

Joseph Turner   70
Sarah Turner   65
Francis Morley   23
Ann Eliza Morley   3
Hannah Morley   1
Ann Morley    22

RG 9 Piece 2428 Folio 104 Page 43 Mansfield

JJ

Added - I see that Carole has already posted the above.  :)
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: Rach72 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:33 GMT (UK)
This is what I was confused with the Turner Morley?
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: JJen on Sunday 06 March 16 18:35 GMT (UK)
1871 -

Francis Morley   33
Ann Morley   33
Eliza Ann Turner   13
Hannah Morley   11
Sarah Morley   6
Francis Morley   3
William Morley   1

RG10 Piece 3469 Folio 11 Page 15, Sutton in Ashfield

JJ
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: Rach72 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:38 GMT (UK)
Wow thank you.  Famous Cricketer Frederick Morley 1850 Sutton in Asfield played cricket for England played in The Ashes 1882/83 Played with Billy Barnes Eliza's husband wondered if Eliza was related to the Cricketer Speedy Fred Morley.   Hope I've explained OK?
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: Annie65115 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:39 GMT (UK)
Here's a possible baptism at St Andrew, Skegby; mother Ann, a seamer, no father given

1858 01 31  Elizabeth      mother Ann TURNER   Seamer      abode Skegby   
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: Rach72 on Sunday 06 March 16 18:40 GMT (UK)
Your all very good thank you. :)   Eliza Barnes ( Turner Morley) and William Barnes died 1899 Mansfield Woodhouse Buried in Welbeck cemetery Mansfield Woodhouse. 
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: sunflower on Monday 07 March 16 09:21 GMT (UK)
1861 census
Hermitage Lane
Mansfield
RG9/2428

Francis Morley 23 Tailor born Blackwell
Ann Morley 22 born Sutton in Ashfield
ANN ELIZA 3 born Mansfield
Hannah 1 born Mansfield
Joseph TURNER 70 born Shirland
Sarah TURNER 65 born Ashover

Carol
Title: Re: Eliza Turner Morley and William Barnes
Post by: sunflower on Monday 07 March 16 09:26 GMT (UK)
There seems to be 2 Francis & Ann Morley's around at the same time.  There is also one living on Union St, Sutton in Ashfied in 1861 with daughter Elizabeth aged 3, but she died in 1862.

Carol