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Title: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: ROSGRA on Tuesday 08 March 16 11:31 GMT (UK)
Has anyone any information regarding Peter Thomas MAHER who moved from Ballinamore to Longford sometime in the 1920s/30s and had one (maybe two) shoe making shops in Dublin Road, Longford?  His brother Francis was also around working for Fee coachbuilders.  Francis went to England by the mid 1930s to work for Handley Page aircraft company and Peter followed (known to be in England by 1943).
His whereabouts up to the 1911 census are known and his life after 1943 is known - the mystery period is between 1911 and 193x (he is mentioned in a 1933 Longford Leader). Did he serve in the military?  When did he leave Ballinamore?
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 08 March 16 13:06 GMT (UK)
His whereabouts up to the 1911 census are known by you!

He was either 43 or 11 on Census, RC.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h7v/
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: Maggsie on Tuesday 08 March 16 13:17 GMT (UK)
Hi the Library in Longford town would help.
I have seen records in there from 1837.
Are you in Ireland?
If not, where?
Dublin Road is just after St Mels Cathedral, we stayed quite a few times in a pub called The Greyhound in Dublin Street.
Try the Library.
Maggsie
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: Maggsie on Tuesday 08 March 16 13:18 GMT (UK)
Where his parents James Maher and Bridget McCabe?
Maggsie
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: ROSGRA on Tuesday 08 March 16 15:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you Hallmark and Maggsie for your input.
Peter was indeed the son of James Maher of Lahard (part of Ballinamore now) and Bridget McCabe of nearby Callowhill.  Peter was born in 1893. In the 1901 Census he was living with his widowed  mother and some siblings in Ballinamore High Street, but by the 1911 Census he was a farm servant and lodging in Ballyconnell in Co Cavan.  Also by 1911 his brother Francis was lodging with a coachbuilder called Whyte in Carrigallen and working for Fee's.
The trail for Peter then goes cold until the reference in 1933 in Longford.
(No, not in Ireland since you ask, but near Cambridge.)
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: Maggsie on Wednesday 09 March 16 13:44 GMT (UK)
Hi, thanks,
so you know there were more children and have you the date when James, the father died, if not let me know.
try these........
http://www.countylongfordhistoricalsociety.ie/
Maggsie
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: ROSGRA on Friday 11 March 16 11:05 GMT (UK)
Message for Hallmark:
Could not understand your comment in your reply of 8th March about being 43 or 11 in the 1911 Census.  He was 17 in that census. See also my other reply to you and Maggsie with more detail.
Also what did you mean by "Census, RC" ?  My info comes from the censuses that you look at via FindMyPast or Ancestry. 
Regards.ROSGRA.
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: ROSGRA on Friday 11 March 16 11:15 GMT (UK)
Message for Maggsie:
Re your last posting: Peter Maher was the last of 9 children of Bridget McCabe (1851 - 1903) and James Thomas Maher (1847 - 1900), but do I get the impression you knew this?  Can I ask what your connection, if any, is?
There are still relatives-by-marriage (of the second eldest child) in Ballinamore.
Regards. Rosgra.
 
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: Maggsie on Friday 11 March 16 12:25 GMT (UK)
Hi, Well, No connection at all.
I have been to all these places for music festivals and I just like to help.
Go to Private message and you will see the records I found.
Maggsie
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: john logan on Monday 04 June 18 09:55 BST (UK)
As far as I can establish, Peter and Francis Maher of Ballinamore, both served in the army during the 1914-18 war. Francis was in the Royal Irish Fusiliers, number 13518 and Peter in the Connaught Rangers, number 10675. I am researching Leitrim men and women who took part in the war and would be glad to hear of their time in the war or indeed of any of their fellow countymen or women in the war, about 1,000 in all.

John Logan
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: dathai on Monday 04 June 18 11:41 BST (UK)
1901  Peter and Francis
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Ballinamore/Canabel__High_Street/1481469/

1911 Peter
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Ballyconnell/Snugborough/317314/

1911 Francis
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Carrigallen_West/Carrigallen_Town__Part_of_Main_Street/658421/

Peter Maher,Connaught Rangers, 7143408,born Ballinamore,Leitrim,Shoemaker,
Date of attestment 21st April 1913 at Curragh
Age 18yrs 6mts
next of kin brother Francis,Main St ,Carrigallen,Co Leitrim
B E F 1914 to  1915  Star
Mesopotamia 1915/1916/1917/1918
E E F 1918  British war and victory medal's  10675
To Northamphshire Regt 3rd July 1922
https://www.nam.ac.uk/soldiers-records/persons?ss=%7B%22q%22:%22maher%22%7D
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: dathai on Monday 04 June 18 12:03 BST (UK)
for John Logan
if you enter Leitrim into the search box you get 76 men
https://www.nam.ac.uk/soldiers-records/persons?ss=%7B%22q%22:%22leitrim%22%7D
Title: Re: Peter MAHER Longford Town
Post by: ROSGRA on Tuesday 05 June 18 15:53 BST (UK)
Hello John,
Good luck with you research into Leitrim men in WW1 - obviously our research has been from the family history perspective and you seem to have been given some pointers by Dathai. We found a few more details when Ancestry had a free military weekend and also a website called militaryarchives.ie  We had not been looking at my Uncle Frank's record which is another interesting fact to note, but at my father's (Peter) record.  We found that he is recorded as having deserted from the British Army on 28.09.22 at Northampton. He next appears as an infantry sergeant on the census of the (fledgling?) Irish Army at Curragh command Stewart BRO Post on 12th November 1922, pay no. 34715, Reg No. HR4008, next of kin brother Tom in London (that's a fact).
Another record of men entitled to the Victory Medal and/or British War Medal shows his name and no 10675 with a hand-written comment "Retd 1743 RR 1912 CRV 29/B - 4/10/23 8270 Act" which means nothing to us! This record is marked Cork xx.May.1920 and has him as Private in 2/Connaught and 1/Connaught.
We remember from family conversations him mentioning Mesopotamia but did not understand it at the time (as very young children).  Our next record is of him back in civvy street as a shoemaker in Longford in the late 1920s/early 30s.  If you do discover anything further after his military time we would very interested to hear of it. His brother Frank went on to England by the late 1930s (working as a chauffeur to Sir Handley Page of aircraft fame) and Dad followed but we do not exactly when until he married my mother in London in 1943.
Rosemary Weeks (nee Maher).