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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: Indiana.59 on Thursday 17 March 16 13:49 GMT (UK)
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I have family of my Shaw's residing "Delachael" ??? Tomintoul ~ Kirkmichael ~ Banffs
1841 census to 1901 ~ A William Shaw son of Alexander Shaw & Isabella McIntosh B;1841/42
William Shaw married a "Mary Laing" B; 1854 at Glenmuick in 1875
Daughter to Peter Laing & Mary Allan
13 years his Junior . . .
I have one son born 1892 a James Shaw 17 years after his marriage . . .
This being my direct family line . . .
Anyone got any ideas as to who the other children may be and dates/places of birth . . .
Alexander Shaw married a Isobel McIntosh . . .
William Shaw married Mary Laing
James Shaw B: 1892 Olrig married a Helen McGregor B: 1982 in "Towie" 1914
One child being my Grand father Donald Shaw B: 1919 ~ leochel Cushnie
Does anyone have any idea who his brothers & sister may be and to where they may have
been born . . . ?
Also to where "William & Mary" may be buried . . .
Any information relating to this family would be of a great help to me . . .
Many thanks . . .
Indiana . . . A Shaw through & through ;D
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I had a quick look at Libindx, a free site run by Moray Council. If you do a people search there, you will find some useful material. For example, I found that your Alexander Shaw died 25-11-1880, farmed at "Delachule", married Isabel McIntosh at Tomintoul 21-8-1832. His parents were William Shaw, a farmer, who died 3-12-1826, and Euphemia Grant. There is probably a reference to a gravestone somewhere there.
Another useful site is the National Library of Scotland maps website. It gives you free access to old maps of the area. Best look at the 19th century 6" Ordnance Survey maps, which you find under "Series Maps".
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There is probably a reference to a gravestone somewhere there.
Yes.
William Shaw d 1826 has 'Headstone Ref' Km171. Km is the LIBINDX abbreviation for Kirkmichael. Eight other members of the family are commemorated on Tst84. Tst is St Michael's Kirkyard in Tomintoul. You can search LIBINDX using only the 'Headstone Ref' to get the lists of all eight people.
There is a list of the LIBINDX abbreviations under 'Help/Advice' at the top of the menu on the left.
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I am looking for a property owned by my great great grand father Alexander Shaw B:1803 with his wife Isobel (McIntosh) then owned by my great grand father Alexander's son William Shaw B: 1841 and his wife Mary (Laing) in "Delachule" just south off Military road "Tomintoul" . . .
Alexander was a farm labourer . . .
His son William B:1841 was a shepherd . . .
And also as to where any of this family members may have be buried . . .
Any information on this family would be gratefully received . . .
Indiana . . . Still on the trail . . . : )
Topics merged.
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For Delachule see http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1816
am looking for a property owned by my great great grand father Alexander Shaw B:1803 with his wife Isobel (McIntosh) then owned by my great grand father Alexander's son William Shaw
I will be very surprised if your Shaws actually owned Delachule. It was very much the exception for a farmer to own his farm in the early 19th century, never mind a farm labourer or shepherd. This land was part of the Gordon estates that were made over to the Crown in lieu of death duties in about 1929. You need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and check the earliest available valuation roll. This will tell you the names of the proprietor, tenant and (if applicable) occupier of the farm.
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Hi. We have a cottage along the road from where Delachule was. I am sorry to say that the original building burnt down (not sure when, but 1900's, not earlier). I hear from neighbours that the temporary pre-fab house on the roadside was built as a replacement whilst the original was re-built, but sadly it never was. I need to have a look at my family as we had some cross-overs with Delachule. There are lots of old maps that show the house - look at the National Library for Scotland map section and there are maps from 1600's.
Ali
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Hi Ali
Wow thanks for that bit of information ~ only to say I am sadden to hear it was burnt down and was never rebuilt : (
Sure will look at maps but a little unsure as to how to determine which would have actually been their house
Was there a name to the farm to indicate that this actually was their home from the many others that were also built the road side of Delachule ?
So if I was to visit Tomintoul then go on down military road to Delachule would I find it to the left or the right of the road
I will check the maps as asked but a real history lesson as yours is just so wonderful and I can't thank you enough for the knowledge you have given
On checking on google there is actually a pre-fab house single floor still in use today and if this was the temporary house that was then built
My grandfather was born 1917 but there are brothers and a sister born before him
So all of this could go to explain as to why I can not find their births they could well of been on the move because of this fire
Sadden but at the same time glad to receive some kind of news on it
I do intend to visit Tomintoul to see their graves of William and Euphermia Shaw (Grant) B: 1770 and 1773 who then went on to die and be buried in Tomintoul as to other members of the family
My great great great great grandparents Children are as follows . . .
Donald Shaw b: 24 MAY 1795 in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland
William Shaw b: ABT 1798 in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland
Jane Shaw b: ABT 1800 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Alexander Shaw b: ABT 1802 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Alexander Shaw being my great great great grandfather . . .
Name: Alexander Shaw
Birth: ABT 1802 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Death: 25 NOV 1879 in Delachule, Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Marriage to Isabella McIntosh b: ABT 1812 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Children
Elspet Shaw b: ABT 1836 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
William Shaw b: ABT 1841 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Isabella Shaw b: ABT 1842 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Euphemia Shaw b: ABT 1845 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Alexander Shaw b: ABT 1847 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
James Shaw b: ABT 1850 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
His wife . . .
William born 1841 was my great great grandfather . . .
Name: William Shaw
Birth: ABT 1841 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Married Mary Anne Laing b: 15 MAR 1853 in Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland
c: 19 JUN 1854 in Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland
Married: 27 OCT 1875 in Glenmuick, Aberdeen, Scotland
Children
Mary Shaw b: ABT 1874 in Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland
William Shaw b: ABT 1877 in Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland
Donald Shaw b: ABT 1880 in Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland
James Shaw b: ABT 1893 in Keig, Aberdeen, Scotland
James Shaw being my great grandfather
JAMES SHAW BORN: 29 SEP 1892 ~ Pond Cottage ~ Keig
James Shaw Married Helen McGregor : 28 AUG 1914 in Towie in Aberdeenshire
F: James McGregor B:
M: Helen McGregor B:
Children
Margaret Shaw B: ? ? ?
William Shaw B: ? ? ?
Alexander Shaw B: ? ? ?
Donald Shaw B: 15/11/1917 in Leochel ~ Cushnie
James Shaw B: ? ? ?
So any other information on the family would gratefully received
I will also check on any information that relates to the fire
It would also be nice to know a little about you as to your name as that would also be interesting to know
Wow and thanks again for making my day . . . : )
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Hi there again. Sorry to have been bringer of bad news about the building! Yes, the pre-fab is still there and still occupied. I don't know them, but my friends along the road would. I am Ali Campbell and I actually live in Aberdeen. We have no family roots in Banffshire, but we own a cottage there - Lagganvoulin - about a mile along the road from Delachule. The old maps show that the original Delachule was on the left hand side if travelling down the military road from Tomintoul to the south (so the pre-fab is not on the actual site, but across the road from it). The Roy Military map (1700s) actually shows it on the far side of the River Conglass as well as the road, but most of the other old maps show it inbetween the river and the road. If you search for Moray SMR on the web, and put in Delachule it will take you to a record NJ11NE0054. This was results from a survey of all the old ruins in the area in the early 2000's and it describes what the farmstead would have been. I am busy tracing the family/ies that lived in Lagganvoulin and working out how they lived, inter-married and had children with all the different houses nearby, and also what took them to move away. It is fascinating. If you need help with finding old maps etc let me know, but the National Library of Scotland is great (once you get the hang of it). Moray Heritage may also give you free access to maps. Our cottage has its own website which has internal pictures which may give you an idea of how a cottage would have looked. It also has photos taken very locally - www.lagganvoulin.co.uk
If your Shaws were RC they would be in the RC graveyard in the village. My old families will probably be in Kirkmichael cemetery to the north of Tomintoul, although later ones might be in the village itself. I haven't looked yet, but we are up in a week or two so I will hope to drag the kids around! Alexander Shaw is certainly listed as tenant at 'Dellachoul' from at least 1855 (paying £17 rent annually), until 1915 when he was paying £18. In 1925 and 1930 it says the rent is payable by the 'Reps of Alexander Shaw'. By 1930, the rent was down to £10 and 10 shillings. I will try the news articles later when I have time to see if I can find out when the fire was, and my neighbour up there may know, as it was her who told me about it. My only link that I can see with Delachule (to Lagganvoulin) is the illegitimate birth of James Steward on 31st July 1834 - to William Stewart of Lagganvoulin, and Betty McGregor of Delashlule. James seems to have been brought up as a Stewart at Lagganvoulin. Not sure what happened to Betty, or who she was.
What I am really keen for is to stumble on some old photos of the cottages in the area, or their inhabitants. The museum in Tomintoul is going to be under renewal soon (or is already) so I may have to wait before I can approach them to trawl their stuff! I will keep you in mind as I continue my search for local history!
Ali
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PS Tenancy of the cottage/farm seems to have been taken over by a John Grant by 1931.
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PPS Looking at your research interests - I knew a family of Hindhaughs in Berwick upon Tweed (Northumberland). Also, I am related to Johnsons in Berwick and Northumberland! A research project for another afternoon!
ali
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Blimey you are amazing Ali ~ it will take me while to digest that bit of information ~ but I do believe it is the only pre- fab house on that bit of road . . .
Well Ali Campbell from Aberdeen do we know each other in some way I wonder . . . ?
My grand father Donald Shaw born 1917 was born Leochel - Cushnie ~ Banffs . . .
But was residing 38 Dee St ~ Aberdeen in 1937 where he then went to Edinburgh to marry my Grandmother Elenanor Manson Johnston in 1937 . . .
Returning to Aberdeen . . .
Resulting in 2 of their sons being born in Aberdeen . . .
My father "Thomas Johnston Shaw" 1938
And my uncle "Terence Linden Shaw" 1945
No need to ask if we have got Campbell's in the family thanks to the ladies of the family . . . : )
So much there to digest . . .
But I am sure you are on the right trail . . .
William Shaw B: 1770
Euphemia Grant B: 1773
A big ask but is there any way you can find out who owned the property in 1986 as in the pre-fab and who then bought the property there after ~ because I believe we held some connection to it up till up to then but may I add I cannot be sure . . .
And then a John Grant taking over the property in 1931 . . .
Swings and roundabouts I love it . . .
Sure I would love to know more . . .
Bless you Ali ~ I cannot thanks you enough ~ I really can't . . . : )
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Ali
Are we talking about the same Betsy Stuart here . . .
BETSY STUART B: ABT 1836
Name: Jane Shaw
Birth: ABT 1800 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Death: 28 JAN 1883 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Father: William Shaw B: ABT 1770 in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland
Mother: Euphemia Grant B: ABT 1773 in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland
Marriage Alexander Stuart B: ABT 1800 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Children
Betsy Stuart B: ABT 1836 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Jane Stuart B: ABT 1838 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
William Stuart B: ABT 1840 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Alexander Stuart B: ABT 1843 in Tomintoul, Banff, Scotland
Sources:
1. Title: SR 1883 Deaths District of Tomintoul, County of Banff
Page: page 1
Dear me . . .
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A big ask but is there any way you can find out who owned the property in 1986 as in the pre-fab and who then bought the property there after ~ because I believe we held some connection to it up till up to then but may I add I cannot be sure . . .
This information will be in the 1985/6 Valuation Roll for Banffshire, which is a list of all properties, and tells you the names of the proprietor, tenant and occupier. The VRs can be consulted in various places including some local libraries, the Local Heritage Centre in Elgin, Archives in Aberdeen and Edinburgh and the National Library of Scotland. There should also be copies in the British Library, National Library of Wales, the Library of Trinity College in Dublin, the Cambridge University Library, and the Bodleian Library in Oxford.
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Ello Ali
Thanks for all the information ~ did I tell you I live in Newcastle upon Tyne . . . ?
Holiday in order I think to Tomintoul . . .
I also presume Delachule is the farm as a whole and not a place . . .
As far as Kirkyards are concerned . . .
William Shaw died in 1826 I think just as one of the churches was being built in Tomintoul . . .
But there are Shaws in the R.C church yard so it will be interesting to see if there was any change in
religion there . . .
Ali I can't thank you enough for all the help you have given . . .
x x x
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Ha! I thought you were in Indiana, USA!!
Yes Delachule would just be the actual farm, not an area. I drove slowly past today to have a look. Travelling south with the prefab on my right. There is obvious signs of where the house was on the left - you can see the flat footprint very clearly. There is also a substantial shed type building immediately to the North of it which I guess was part of the farm. I will indeed try to find out about who has been there more recently - although my neighbours have only been there for 17 years, not as far back as the 1989's, but I am sure they will know who to ask in the village.
Thanks for the info about Betty - I will have to look at it again - but I don't think it is 'my' Betty. Although it might be my William Stuart - will have to think it all through. My Betty was a McGregor at Delachule and although her son was James Stuart, he took his fathers name. Maybe she did become Betty Stewart/Stuart, but this was not her maiden name - she was a McGregor. Sadly the 1841 doesn't give relationships to the head of house. I suspect she was probably a servant or a more distant relative.
Will have to check if we were Johnstons or Johnsons - can never remember. They were the female line, marrying my male line 'Grey's'. All over northumberland, tweed mouth, berwick, ord. My mother is still in Berwick, and her cousin did all that side of the family.
Ali
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I happened to have occasion to go into Elgin today, and I popped into the Library and had a look as some of the Valuation Rolls for Dellachule.
1877/8 Dellachoul. Proprietor Duke of Richmond and Gordon. Tenant and occupier Alexander Shaw. Years of lease: none. Yearly rent or value £22 0s 0d.
1975/6. House and garage, Dellachule. Under reconstruction.
I have some later ones but as they refer to people who may still be living I'll send them to you in a PM.
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So if I was to visit Tomintoul then go on down military road to Delachule would I find it to the left or the right of the road
If you drive south-east from Tomintoul towards the Lecht, Delachule was on the left. It is marked on the seventh series one-inch map printed in 1962. See http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=57.2433&lon=-3.3549&layers=5
The chalet is on the opposite side of the road, i.e. on the right as you come from Tomintoul. From the look of the chalet I would be surprised if it was built in the early 1900s. Much more likely to have been in the second half of the 20th century.
So all of this could go to explain as to why I can not find their births they could well of been on the move because of this fire.
I suspect the reason you can't find their births has nothing to do with the fire, and everything to do with the fact that births after 1914 are not available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.
Book yourself a day in the Scotland's People Centre in Edinburgh, and you will be able to look at all these births. It's only a train journey away, and the Centre is just across Princes Street from Waverley Station.
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Alexander Shaw is certainly listed as tenant at 'Dellachoul' from at least 1855 (paying £17 rent annually), until 1915 when he was paying £18. In 1925 and 1930 it says the rent is payable by the 'Reps of Alexander Shaw'. By 1930, the rent was down to £10 and 10 shillings.
If this is from the Valuation Rolls, the yearly rents quoted there are not necessarily the rents actually paid by the tenant to the landlord. The Valuation Rolls, certainly the later ones, were an assessment made by the Assessor of the notional value based on a whole range of criteria such as the number and size of rooms and the amenities of the property. All properties were assessed by the same rules, and the resulting notional annual rent was used to calculate the actual rates (local taxes) payable to the council by the proprietor, tenant or occupier.
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The Old Statistical Account of Kirkmichael (1791) is quite extensive. The minister gives the population then as 1,276 of whom 384 were Roman Catholics.
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GR2 . . .
Many thanks . . . : )
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Another thread on the same family http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=745492.0
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See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1816 for some new photographs.
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Hi Forfarian
Thanks for link . . .
Great photos . . .
Find map enclosed . . .
The 3 Red marks are Shaw Families . . .
The 2 Blue marks wives to Shaws before marriage (Grant and a McIntosh) . . .
One Red dot is "Glenmullie" an "Alexander Shaw" B: 1785 ~ Crathnie . . .
"But" not sure if he is related ~ If so it must to "William" Shaw B: 1770 . . .
But I have no information on where "William" Shaw B: 1770 was born soo . . .
But it seems to show the family were quite strong in that area in those days . . . : )
It would be interested to know now who owns the land across the road now and is it still known as "Delachule" . . . : )
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Oh dear :(
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/moray/1050100/woman-rescued-from-moray-home-as-it-burned-to-the-ground/
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Yes, sad indeed. We were along there today. Seems like history has repeated itself as the original cottage also burnt down.
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The warlock, Gregor Willox MacGregor lived at Gaulrig at the western end of that map. A Jessie Shaw, Torbain apparently washed & laid out the MacGregor family. She gets a mention in an interesting publication "Gregor Willox the Warlock", available from the Aberdeen & NE Family History Society, 164 King Street, Aberdeen. AB2 3BD, Tel: 0224 646323, includes his family tree & costs under a tenner.
Skoosh.
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Some photographs of the burned out chalet at http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1816
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Just been reading through this tonight & what a shock ending.
I hope the woman is ok?
This is such a strange coincidence in genealogical terms.
It was on BBC News just before the fire caught hold;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-37595766
Condolences,
Annie
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Pretty sad to hear of the chalet - I had high hopes of stopping over there for a quick holiday and to do some research in the area - I read in the news the lady in question took in injured birds so that in itself is a sad loss to the area as well - a dog was lost never to be found and the poor woman in question was sofa surfing for a fair while - so I sincerely hope a home has been found for her now and "yus" how strange for history to have repeated itself - it was with interest to know how the farm itself burned down and now the redeeming curse that seems to take itself over to the chalet too - may I say a heartfelt to all that have given me so much information in regard of Delachule and about my family too - kind regards Indiana Shaw x
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Just been reading through this tonight & what a shock ending.
I hope the woman is ok?
This is such a strange coincidence in genealogical terms.
It was on BBC News just before the fire caught hold;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-37595766
Condolences,
Annie
Yes Annie - Such a saddening weird coincidence - I heard later the woman was ok but one of the dogs ran off and was never found again and that weird coincidence has remained on my thoughts ever since - was Delachule cursed I wonder and how lucky was she to have had 5 men passing by on their whiskey tour holiday - many thanks to all of them and the fire brigade . . .
Kind regards Indiana . . .
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Ha! I thought you were in Indiana, USA!!
Yes Delachule would just be the actual farm, not an area. I drove slowly past today to have a look. traveling south with the prefab on my right. There are obvious signs of where the house was on the left - you can see the flat footprint very clearly. There is also a substantial shed type building immediately to the North of it which I guess was part of the farm. I will indeed try to find out about who has been there more recently - although my neighbours have only been there for 17 years, not as far back as the 1989's, but I am sure they will know who to ask in the village.
Thanks for the info about Betty - I will have to look at it again - but I don't think it is 'my' Betty. Although it might be my William Stuart - will have to think it all through. My Betty was a McGregor at Delachule and although her son was James Stuart, he took his fathers name. Maybe she did become Betty Stewart/Stuart, but this was not her maiden name - she was a McGregor. Sadly the 1841 census doesn't give relationships to the head of the house. I suspect she was probably a servant or a more distant relative.
Will have to check if we were Johnstons or Johnsons - can never remember. They were the female line, marrying my male line 'Grey's'. All over Northumberland, tweed mouth, Berwick, ord. My mother is still in Berwick, and her cousin did all that side of the family.
Ali
My grandmother was a Grey/Gray Bedlington . . .
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Hi.
Apologies as this thread is old but I have just come across this site. I have some information on the Shaw's of Tomintoul that may help, I believe there are two Shaw lines (apologies if I am wrong). Alexander Shaw 1785 died in Glenmullie in 1865 and is from a different Shaw family line, he married Elspet Gordon in Stronavaich. I am related to this side of the Shaw line. I hope this helps.
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Hi.
Apologies as this thread is old but I have just come across this site. I have some information on the Shaw's of Tomintoul that may help, I believe there are two Shaw lines (apologies if I am wrong). Alexander Shaw 1785 died in Glenmullie in 1865 and is from a different Shaw family line, he married Elspet Gordon in Stronavaich. I am related to this side of the Shaw line. I hope this helps.
Hello Scot, Yes, as you can imagine this family threw me, here we have 2 Alexander Shaws near living next to each other, was his first wife not Isabella too, and I can see your block here, as on checking for a William Shaw born 1841, my William Shaw married in 1875 age up as 34 making him born 1841, but he was Baprized in 1839, but; following the censuses he remains born in 1841, so it did confuse me into thinking was he the son of your Alexander, I know my Alexander Shaw did work for your Alexander Shaw, confused to say the least, going back to your Alexander Shaw born 1865 this making him a fair bit older than my William Shaw born appox 1753/54 . . .
Do you know who your Alexander Shaw born 1765 father was and where either was born, and yes, that Duncan, I also remember trying to follow him through and getting no where . . .
But; it always bugged me as why poor old William didn't know his own birth year, but; could always recall he was born in 1841, so on checking the only Willian Shaw born 1841 was to William Shaw who married a Grace Stuart, this William Shaw is in fact my Alexander Shaw's brother born in 1797, but; as this William Shaw went on marry someone else, it sometimes makes me wonder if the priests got their info mixed up at times, as my William Shaw baprized married in Candy Craig, Glenmuick, I was like what on earth is he doing down there, but; as ever there are always 2 place names named alike, as there was were in fact 2 Tomintouls, the other being in Braemar, in Braemer in 1749 I think was a Duncan Shaw who had 3 sons, maybe not in order, a James, Donald and a William, the interseting thing here is the movement, bringing cattle down from the likes of Aviemore down the Lairig Ghuu for the warmer winter climate into Breamar, had me thinking and then with a track road leading up to Inchory, I see where are lot are coming and going, I even thought giving movement and other marriages did this Duncan Shaw end up in Deeside with another wife, wild thoughts as I find everything crossed linked, Duncan Shaw factor to Barmorale, and factor to 2 or 3 other places as well, come on we are just the poor lot, so how come we are always stood next to the posh lot all the time, I wonder, so if you are who you are if you have a connection to the Easter Lair Shaws/Farquharsons too . . .
I found no connection to Alexander Shaw of Glenmullie born 1865 either, but; I would have to check more on that, don't you just hate second even third marriages, but; I often wondered why your Alexander Shaw ended up in Glenmullie in the first place, and yes I see your problem with his son Duncan . . .
Any info you have on our side of the Shaws would go along way if you are happy to give it . . .
Giving myself something to do I am going over the Duncan Shaw thing again, considering his father's wealth, status and connections could Duncan have married else where, even gone to London to do so, as I remember something on this, where I could not prove if the parents were one of the same, or if there was I was not prepared to buy any certs to prove otherwise due not being related, let me go over that one again, but; I was sure there a Duncan Shaw born Scotland who married on the censuses, don't hold me to that, maybe with what you know of him you could give it a bash, given Alexander Shaw what do you have on him, was he not a military man, this would clearly show on Duncan's marriage cert if we could find it . . .
Check on Edinburgh too just in case . . .
So what do we have on our lot, my Alexander Shaw gets baptized in 1802, sponsers Alexander Farquharson and Elspet Gordon, and he gets married in 1832 in the presence of the Duke of Gordon, if we do not do posh, we surely rub shoulders with them, he he he . . . :-X
Indiana . . .
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Wow this is so interesting thanks for the information and the time taken to reply. I have taken the original research from a family member who started this over 20 years ago, although around 40 years ago there was an original family tree logged by each generation which I remember but was lost in a house move. I remember lots of information about job roles and outlaws !! My grandmother always stated we were related to the House of Stuart so I will always believe this. Third generation down from Alexander Shaw one family member moved to Fort William and had a son (my grandfather) who then moved to Edinburgh, so my immediate family is from Edinburgh.
The earliest Alexander Shaw I know of is - Alexander ‘Alistair’ Shaw of ‘Inchrory’ possibly in Glen Avon, near Tomintoul, married Elspet Farquharson. But I have yet to look further into this for dates etc.
Their daughter Janet Shaw married Duncan Shaw 9 March 1791 - child Alexander Shaw converted to Catholicism b.1785, Crathie (v near Balmoral Castle) d. 23 Apr 1865, Glenmullie married Elspet Gordon (b 18 Sep 1792 - although maybe 1793 as 2 birth records filled 1 year apart, her father was John Gordon) married on 7 April 1817. They had 7 children. Elspet died in childbirth with their last child. Father John Shaw was also one of their children - he had a very interesting life. my family have an original oil painting of him. According to later censuses Alexander's new wife was Isabella Munro but I cannot find any other information on her. Not sure if I have a connection to the Easter Lair Shaws/Farquharsons also but still have lots more research to do. My mothers side of the family was so much simpler. Our Shaws are a complex bunch. Happy to share the family tree information I have, let me know if interested.
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Wow this is so interesting thanks for the information and the time taken to reply. I have taken the original research from a family member who started this over 20 years ago, although around 40 years ago there was an original family tree logged by each generation which I remember but was lost in a house move. I remember lots of information about job roles and outlaws !! My grandmother always stated we were related to the House of Stuart so I will always believe this. Third generation down from Alexander Shaw one family member moved to Fort William and had a son (my grandfather) who then moved to Edinburgh, so my immediate family is from Edinburgh.
The earliest Alexander Shaw I know of is - Alexander ‘Alistair’ Shaw of ‘Inchrory’ possibly in Glen Avon, near Tomintoul, married Elspet Farquharson. But I have yet to look further into this for dates etc.
Their daughter Janet Shaw married Duncan Shaw 9 March 1791 - child Alexander Shaw converted to Catholicism b.1785, Crathie (v near Balmoral Castle) d. 23 Apr 1865, Glenmullie married Elspet Gordon (b 18 Sep 1792 - although maybe 1793 as 2 birth records filled 1 year apart, her father was John Gordon) married on 7 April 1817. They had 7 children. Elspet died in childbirth with their last child. Father John Shaw was also one of their children - he had a very interesting life. my family have an original oil painting of him. According to later censuses Alexander's new wife was Isabella Munro but I cannot find any other information on her. Not sure if I have a connection to the Easter Lair Shaws/Farquharsons also but still have lots more research to do. My mothers side of the family was so much simpler. Our Shaws are a complex bunch. Happy to share the family tree information I have, let me know if interested.
Before I even get into reading this, here is a clip of Duncan Shaw's birth in case you have not got it, and a clip of the 1851 census, I was away looking for Alexander's birth as it said he was born Aberdeenshire, but; you popped it with it, yes, we are on the correct trail, Duncan Shaw as I have said was the factor for Barmoral, and more besides, so before we finish lets start, the Shaws, Farquharsons, Grants and the McGregors, and the Munros are from Nairn, in Inverness as far back as you can go, then basically you can go in circles, for each time they moved on by war evictions, up and down and around, in the 12 centary the Shaws were as far down the south of England before returning, and else where in the world, Ireland too, your past in Tomintoul rests in the kirkyard of Kirkmichael, your Munros are in there, as well as the Farquharsons and Shaws, and yes, you belong to the house of Stuart, my Granny whose family are from Okney Isles was born in Morningside, Edinburgh, so there you go, my Grandfather and dad, Aberdeen, you lot need to go one step further and see if your dad will go in for a D.N.A test as there are more shocks to come . . . :o