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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kildare => Topic started by: Pennines on Saturday 19 March 16 15:15 GMT (UK)
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Hello.
I wonder if someone can kindly help me (again) please?
Mary Costigan (nee Ferns) was baptised on 15th April 1832 in Monasterevan.
On the 1901 census she is a widow, with an understated age of 60 and living with her married daughter, Mary Dowling (nee Costigan) in Drogheda Row.
In 1911 she is aged 78 and residing with her son, Denis Costigan in Old Grange, Monasterevan.
Try as I might, I am unable to find a death registration for her from 1911 onwards. Is anybody able to spot what I might be missing please?
Thank You
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Have you checked this 1911 aged 75 death - LINK (http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f978e112535730)
It is in Abbeyleix which is close to Monasterevan
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Myluck -- I did see that one actually, when I eventually searched on an all district basis - but thought it was too 'out of area'. That's one of the problems with being unfamiliar with a location.
If Abbeyleix is near to Athy Reg Dist - it may explain it. Thank you very much indeed for that clue.
Regards June
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/01haj/
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dathai,
You are a person of few words!
Do you mean that the death registered for a Mary Costigan in Abbeyleix in 1911 could be either of the 2 other ladies and not necessarily my Mary Costigan?
I have looked at Abbeyleix on the Townland Database and noticed that it was in Queens County (now Laois). A county adjacent to Kildare where my Mary Costigan was living.
I am having to interpret what you mean by kindly giving me that link. So if that is what you mean -- then you could well be correct and my Mary's death registration is missing or very badly mistranscribed.
(Maybe she is still alive!)
Thank you dathai.
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Sorry yes i meant the lady from Queens maybe the 1911 death
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I live in hope that a missing lady in our tree born 1923 is still alive but I don't think Mary COSTIGAN will be!!!
First of all it is about 35km (21miles from Monasterevin to Abbeyleix but more importantly there is a hospital where should Mary have been ill she may have gone to and had she died be registered there. Still dathai may also have something! ;)
I can see Mary's marriage in 1854 in Monasterevin on Feb18 1854
Denis COSTIGAN to Mary FERNS both give address as Old Grange which ties to census returns
They had at least nine children
LINK to 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Monasterevan/Drogheda_Row/1435616/)
LINK to 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Monasterevin/Oldgrange/538272/) noting daughter Margaret married Edward DONOHUE May 04 1855~
so nephew probably should read grandson for Edward DONOHUE aged 11
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Thank you myluck. Good point about a hospital - I suppose this hospital might not have been 21 miles away (which seems quite a distance) - but could have just been situated towards the edge of the Abbeyleix Reg. District. Maybe I need to investigate that.
The only way I will find out is to send for that certificate (which will be the 6th certificate I have sent for in the last couple of weeks. -- We're going to be eating bread and jam at this rate.) I am trying to write my husband's family history for him and his siblings --- I might try getting away with 'Mary Costigan, nee Ferns sadly died sometime after 1911' -- but it doesn't sound quite right though does it!
Just checked the Costigan - Ferns family tree-- yes I have 9 children recorded as well (that's a relief!) Thank you so much for looking at that and discovering the correct relationship for Edward Donohoe.
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http://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/olive/apa/KCL.Edu/#panel=search&search=0
wonder will you find anything here.
Best of luck.
Cyril.
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Thank you Cyril --- I didn't find her death but I certainly found an article of interest!
Seems all was not well between Mary Costigan and her daughter Mary Dowling! I wondered why they were no longer together in 1911 and Mary Costigan was living with her son. Now I know!
It will put a bit of interest into the family history story.
Thank you very much once again!
June
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Following on from a newspaper article which Cyril kindly alerted me to -- I have checked the petty sessions records for Mary Costigan.
3 results came up - 2 of these refer to her bringing cases against members of probably, her own family - getting her daughter, Mary Dowling out of her (Mary Costigan's) house.
Having a John Costigan committed as a Lunatic for threatening her.
There is a 3rd time in 1914, against a person for stealing from her (he doesn't seem to be related!)
So -- she was still alive in 1914.
I am beginning to think that I can't find her death as she may have been buried in a field - by disgruntled members of her family - and her death not registered at all!
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Oh sorry I thought that was a different woman.
Did you see her son listed for not paying his rates?
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Hi Sinann -- I am not surprised at the confusion - there are too many 'Marys'.
No - I haven't seen her son listed for not paying his rates. I will look later.
This is brilliant - adds 'colour' to a family history story.
Not so sure that my husband and his siblings will be too happy about all the skeletons in the family cupboard being revealed though!
Thank you so much for the tip.
Regards June
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Just to say -- I have now found the article re non payment of rates, thank you -- and whilst looking, found another one for having no dog licence!
Quite a family.
After 1901 - it was either the mother or the son, Denis - who were appearing at Petty Sessions for one reason or another. I have also confirmed that the John Costigan who threatened Mary Costigan (nee Ferns) - (and she brought him to court )- was her son. He was the one who the Court committed to a Lunatic Asylum!
So Mary Costigan chucked a daughter and the daughter's children out for not paying her any rent - and also effectively had her son committed to an asylum.
Very, very interesting!