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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: jjtjr on Saturday 19 March 16 18:37 GMT (UK)
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I have two geography questions.
In Irish Flax Growers, 1796 I found a record that mentions, Musickfield, Galway. Where was Musickfield located?
There is another reference to Ballynakill, Galway. Would this refer to the area now known as Woodford, Galway about 10 miles SW of Portumna?
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http://www.logainm.ie/en/35072?s=Musicfield but in Mayo...
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8 Ballinakills in Co Galway
http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=Ballynakill&str=on&con=100015
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hallmark,
The Musickfield that I refer to is definitely in Galway. It is spelled with a ck.
Here is the link to the Galway Flax Growers page:
http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/galway.htm
I assume that it is an archaic name for a place now with a different name.
One of the Ballinakills in your link is the one that I was referring to.
Hopefully someone will know where Musickfield, Galway was or is.
Thanks.
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The only non flax growers reference I can find to Musickfield is this Patrick O'Neal
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8715812
If you have a FindMyPast sub his record might give you a clue.
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Sinann,
Thanks for the link. It confirms that there were other records naming Musickfield, Galway.
I don't have FindMyPast. I'm not actually interested in the Patrick O'Neal Record.
I am actually trying to find out about Michael Tressy who ls listed in the Flax Growers as living in Musickfield, Galway.
There are more than 35 other people on the Flax Growers Galway list also living in Musickfield, Galway.
The place existed, but I'm sure that it now has a different name. Hopefully I will learn what it is.
Thanks again.
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I meant his record might give a clue to where Musickfield was, any way there is another reference to a man from Musickfield Galway going to The barony of Claremorris Mayo so perhaps it's in the north of the county.
http://www.arborealis.ca/resources/timelines/parish-kilcolman-mayo.html
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Sinann,
You might be correct about it being near County Mayo.
I just found a Musicfield Trig, a Trigonometrical station in Gurtnagunnet townland in Addergoole Parish.
http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/asp/fullresult.asp?id=36770
The spelling is different, but that happens frequently. I'm still not sure if it is the place that I am looking for, since there were so many people listed as living there in the Flax Growers, about 38.
If Musickfield is just below County Mayo, it would not be in an area where my Family lived back then.
Thanks for the help.
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That is just south of Claremorris so looks good. It's also quite close to the Musicfield in Mayo which hallmark linked to so perhaps that shows it was once a much larger area.
Shame it's not your people's area but might be useful to someone.
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Sinann,
Checking names of old records is a long shot, but worth a try.
You never know when you might get lucky.
Thanks again for your help.
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Don't forget County lines changed.... Ballaghaderren for example!
The location of Ballaghaderren is a topic that has been debated for a long time. What county is it in? Mayo or Roscommon. Up until 1898 Ballaghaderreen was part of county Mayo. This changed under the Local Government Act of 1898 when the town was transferred from Mayo to Roscommon. This act had to be introduced in Ireland as changes needed to be made to the local government in the country and to bring order to the local authorities.
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Mentioned in Kilcoman Parish, Mayo!!
1820-03: Bills were posted, offering a reward from the Rt. Hon. D. Browne, of £50 for the apprehension of John Burke, of Musickfield, county Galway.....
Until 1898, there were two parishes of the name, Kilcolman, in the county of Mayo: one in the barony of Clanmorris, and the other in the barony of Costello. The Local Government Act (Ireland) of 1898 transferred several parishes from the counties of Mayo and Galway to the county of Roscommon, including the parish of Kilcolman (Costello).
http://www.arborealis.ca/resources/timelines/parish-kilcolman-mayo.html
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hallmark,
I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand.
Thanks for the help.
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Well it's not showing up anywhere....
http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=Musick+Field&str=on in any spelling of it!
Even in US counties were renamed, county lines changed!!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Government_%28Ireland%29_Act_1898#cite_note-9
shows some parts of Galway went to Clare, Roscommon and Mayo.
Part of Roscommon went to Galway, Westmeath! etc etc
Simple!! :-))
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hallmark,
Thanks for that info.
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Newcastle Courant 11 March 1820 - " ... rebels from the Counties of Roscommon and Galway made a concentrated movement through the pass towards Mayo between Dunmacreena and Belmount ... they passed into Mayo ... and proceeded towards the different villages in the direction of Musickfield and Ballindangan* ..."
* - think this is Ballindine - there's a Dangan Park in modern day Ballandine -right on the border
Public Ledger & Daily Adventurer 10 Mar 1820 - " ... apprehension of J Burke, of Musickfield in the County of Galway ..." (details already posted)
Perry's Bankrupt Gazette 24 Feb 1838 - "GALWAY 22 Feb.ten Walsh James, of Musickfield, yeoman"
Dublin Evening Post 10 Feb 1818 - "Creditors of Laughlin Rogers - Malacky Hynes of Musicfield* County Galway
* - without the "k".
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... http://www.logainm.ie/en/1414614?s=Ballydangan ?
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Hallmark - magic.
Should have considered "y" as an alternative.
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
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Would it be marked in the Taylor &Skinner Maps?
https://archive.org/details/TaylorSkinnerMapsOfTheRoadsOfIrelandSurveyed1777
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Sinann,
Nice link, I will enjoy reading that when I have time.
Thanks.
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
dif you kno that in ireland you csan choose your own post code an lettrers still manage to get to you, they are not set out per your district as in uk. its personal to your house, your choice and as long as ypu give this info to the irish post office it gets there!
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
dif you kno that in ireland you csan choose your own post code an lettrers still manage to get to you, they are not set out per your district as in uk. its personal to your house, your choice and as long as ypu give this info to the irish post office it gets there!
Not anymore....
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
dif you kno that in ireland you csan choose your own post code an lettrers still manage to get to you, they are not set out per your district as in uk. its personal to your house, your choice and as long as ypu give this info to the irish post office it gets there!
Not anymore....
Although the one they just introduced is individual to each house.
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
dif you kno that in ireland you csan choose your own post code an lettrers still manage to get to you, they are not set out per your district as in uk. its personal to your house, your choice and as long as ypu give this info to the irish post office it gets there!
Not anymore....
Although the one they just introduced is individual to each house.
Yes but one can't choose what they want.
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Oh I think that you have to have been born in Ireland to understand Irish Geography and Placenames.
Even then, it is hard to understand... :-))
dif you kno that in ireland you csan choose your own post code an lettrers still manage to get to you, they are not set out per your district as in uk. its personal to your house, your choice and as long as ypu give this info to the irish post office it gets there!
Not anymore....
Although the one they just introduced is individual to each house.
Yes but one can't choose what they want.
I thought using the word 'although' made that obvious???
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Hi,
I'm interested to find out if you were able to determine the location of Musickfield, I am also curious in finding out the same answer.
I can confirm that the Ballynakill in the Flax Growers list is in fact the parish which includes Woodford. I believe that my ancestor William Robbins is in the list for the parish. I have a picture of the published register for Ballynakill if you are interested. It includes the information related to the number of acres planted by each individual and the bounty received.
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Hi,
I'm interested to find out if you were able to determine the location of Musickfield, I am also curious in finding out the same answer.
I can confirm that the Ballynakill in the Flax Growers list is in fact the parish which includes Woodford. I believe that my ancestor William Robbins is in the list for the parish. I have a picture of the published register for Ballynakill if you are interested. It includes the information related to the number of acres planted by each individual and the bounty received.
Woodford townland
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/leitrim/ballynakill/woodford/woodford/
Ballynakill civil parish
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/ballynakill6/
KG