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Title: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Sunday 27 March 16 12:07 BST (UK): Hi. I am quite unfamiliar with Canadian research, and am hoping someone might have some time to assist me.

I have just discovered that the second wife of my ancestor moved from Ireland to Ontario some time after 1840. I have a few census records from familysearch, but am hoping to get a bit more information on the family.

Will be happy for people to P.M. me if they might be able to help. Thanks, Katharine.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 27 March 16 12:54 BST (UK): Hi Katharine,

If you would like to give a few details on here, we can have a look around for you.

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Sunday 27 March 16 13:12 BST (UK): I am firstly looking for a Catharine Julia GORE who was born around 1813 who was in the 1861 census in Medonte, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada.
I would love to know when she arrived in Canada with her young children, and if anyone can see any details of her death. She would have been a widow when she arrived.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 27 March 16 13:58 BST (UK): Hi,

Library and Archives Canada site has census records available for free...

Here is 1861... Catherine with sons James B, George and Bentley in Simcoe.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108345_00205.jpg

RK
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 27 March 16 14:08 BST (UK): 1871 - George, James and Richard Bentley in Medonte

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4396755_00019.jpg

1881 George is married with children and his brothers are with him.. 1881 in Muskoka

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVX1-JF1
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008180108.jpg

RK
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 27 March 16 14:22 BST (UK): Possibly your James (if middle name is Sylvester) - died in Muskoka in 1884.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK8N-765

Could this be your Bentley - died in BC in 1921?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLGL-J6L

Birth records on FS for George's children show that his wife's name was Mary Ennis.

RK
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 27 March 16 14:23 BST (UK): George is a widower in 1891. Here he is with 3 kids, in Simcoe.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148169-00529

RK
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Monday 28 March 16 00:34 BST (UK): Thanks so much for those RunKitty. I would definately say that is Bentley's death. Is there an 1851 census for Canada? Or how can I find what year the family arrived in Canada?

Still looking for Catharine's death...

Can anyone tell me how I would find children of George's children? (It would seem his brothers James and Bentley both remained single. So I am hoping George's line continued through his children. I would love to get in contact with descendants!)
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: RunKitty on Monday 28 March 16 00:55 BST (UK): Hi

Yes, there is an 1851/2 census, though most, if not all, of Simcoe County records have not survived.

Early immigration records are extremely hard to find. I was hoping that I could find one of the children on a later census where year of immigration is one of the questions asked, ie 1901.

Civil registration started in 1869, so if Catharine died prior to that, you won't find her in the Ontario Deaths collection (availably on Ancestry, but also available.. for free.. on familysearch). I don't see her, so I wonder if she remarried, or perhaps died prior to 1869. If so, you would have to look at local records. You could contact the Simcoe County chapter of the Ontario Genealogical Society.

http://www.simcoebogs.com/

RK
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 04:29 BST (UK): US WW1 Draft for Frederick Gore (James Frederick on the 1891 Canadian Census) - born 31 December 1884 - Orleans County, New York.
Name of person who would always know him was Mrs J N Lebeau Le Grande Oregon (this must be sister Julia)
Julia was Catherine Julia Gore (born 11 November 1879) on the 1891 Census of Canada.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXB4-MYC

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 04:41 BST (UK): Frederick Gore appears on a couple of border crossings Canada to the USA - arriving Buffalo, New York, 23 October 1930 - had been in the USA earlier - 31/5/1920 - New York - answered "none" to home and nearest address of friend or relative in Canada - rejected as physically defective.

Previous border crossing 5 July 1930 - also rejected - farm labourer - last permanent address Bridgeburg Ontario - going to East Aurora New York. To seek permanent work - medical certificate - double inguinal hernia ???? and groins

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 04:51 BST (UK): Julia (nee Gore) Le Beau - 1900 Census Red Cliff Indian Reservation, Bayfield, Wisconsin,

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVB-RDN

1920 Census - Perry, Union, Oregon -

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M48G-5HL

1930 Census - Eugene, Lane, Oregon.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC9L-F7B

1940 Census - Springfield, Springfield Election Precinct 1, Lane, Oregon.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRTM-Y51

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 04:54 BST (UK): FIND A GRAVE - (this seems to have the wrong birth date ???)

Julia Le Beau - 11 November 1870 - 17 May 1948

Burial - Rest-Haven Memorial Park Eugene Lane County Oregon.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lebeau&GSiman=1&GScid=39333&GRid=69976126&

husband Joseph (with obituary)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lebeau&GSiman=1&GScid=39333&GRid=69976080&

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZ44-M5X

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 05:03 BST (UK): Canadian Attestation Papers for George Gore - 14-10-1877 - Railway Contractor - single - resided Headlingley Manitoba - Sister Mrs Annie Barrett.
(Annie Barrett appeared on the 1911 Census with Julia Lebeau and husband Joseph in Kootenay British Columbia)

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=423141

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 05:07 BST (UK): 56 - Grand Forks Riding Kooteny British Columbia - 1911 - transcribed as L Bean but it is Le Beau.

Joseph L Bean   38
Julia L Bean   31 Wife
Agnes L Bean   13 Daughter
Annie Barret   29 Sister-in-law.
Bath (Beth) Barrat   4 Daughter.

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Monday 28 March 16 05:50 BST (UK): Wow. Thanks for all that Sandra - will take a while to process that all in my brain!
I did see George's attestation papers and burial, and after looking at his battalion history, think he must have died whilst still at training camp in Canada. Interesting that his brother was also trying to enlist.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: hurworth on Monday 28 March 16 06:00 BST (UK): If you have an Ancestry log-in Commonwealth records are free until the end of Monday (British time). It seems to work via ancestry.co.uk but not via ancestry.com .
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Monday 28 March 16 07:56 BST (UK): ok. thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 09:57 BST (UK): Annie Gore (spelt Goor in transcription) married Charles William Barratt in Manitoba - 27-9-1905

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/DetailView.php

Annie Barrat (described as widow) married Robert Barber - 7 June 1918

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hci/

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:02 BST (UK): Annie Barber passed away (phthisis) 12-10-1921 Victoria British Columbia. Father George Gore - Husband Robert Barber. Burial - Ross Bay Cemetery.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DW19-1B2?mode=g&i=299&wc=S62S-W38%3A1069407801%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:05 BST (UK): Ward 1 Vancouver 1921

Arthur Frederic Porath 37 Annie Porath 32
Charlotte Heyes 40
Annie Barber 39 Born Ontario. Robert Barber 39 Born Scotland. Lodger. Fireman.

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:18 BST (UK): Quote from: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 05:07 BST (UK)
56 - Grand Forks Riding Kooteny British Columbia - 1911 - transcribed as L Bean but it is Le Beau.

Joseph L Bean   38
Julia L Bean   31 Wife
Agnes L Bean   13 Daughter
Annie Barret   29 Sister-in-law.
Bath (Beth) Barrat   4 Daughter.

Sandra

Elizabeth Barrat married Bernard Cyril Doyle 21-11/1935

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hck/

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:20 BST (UK): Elizabeth/Beth Barrat was under Barritt on the 1921 Census - staying with the Ennis family.

1075 8th St Burnaby British Columbia

Frank Ennis 54 Martha Ennis 53
Elizabeth Barritt 14 Born Manitoba. Niece.

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:28 BST (UK): Bernard Cyril Doyle (husband of Elizabeth Barrat/Doyle) - passed away 17-11-1989
Informant Elizabeth Doyle - 2917 W. 33 Ave Vancouver British Columbia.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hcl/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hcm/

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:31 BST (UK): Obituary - Elizabeth June Barrat/Doyle with photograph.

Elizabeth June Barrat was known as Beth. She was born on 6 August 1907 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. She was the daughter of Charles Barrat & Annie Gore. She married Bernard Cyril Doyle, son of James Joseph Doyle and Mary Ann Hamilton, on 21 November 1935 in St Michael's Church, Sapperton, British Columbia. She was left a widow when Bernard Cyril Doyle died on 17 November 1989.4 She died on 17 January 1998 in Burnaby, British Columbia, at age 90. She and Bernard Cyril Doyle had no children.

http://www.fayewest.ca/doyle/p1098.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 28 March 16 10:44 BST (UK): Agnes Le Beau daughter of Joseph and Catherine Julia Gore - married John Henderer -
Oregon marriage index 8 April 1946

Agnes Henderer - 11 March 1898 passed away August 1986
Last Residence 97424 Cottage Grove, Lane, Oregon.

Husband - John Henderer - 21 August 1885 passed away August 1971 -
Last Residence 97424 Cottage Grove, Lane, Oregon.

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Thursday 31 March 16 06:43 BST (UK): Hi again all.
I would love to find an obituary for Agnes Henderer and her husband John Henderer both of Cottage Grove - death dates in posting as above.

Or any information on James Frederick GORE bc.1883 to George GORE and Mary ENNIS in Ontario, but he could have died in USA.
Thanks, Katharine.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: Katharine75 on Friday 19 April 19 14:35 BST (UK): Hi all. I am still hoping someone might know where I could get an obituary/death notice for Agnes (Le Beau) and John HENDERER? Or find further information on Frederick GORE. Could he be the man who died in 1972 at Kelowna, British Columbia? Maybe an obituary there will help too!
Thanks, Katharine.
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: bbart on Saturday 20 April 19 05:13 BST (UK): Quote from: Katharine75 on Friday 19 April 19 14:35 BST (UK)
Or find further information on Frederick GORE. Could he be the man who died in 1972 at Kelowna, British Columbia? Maybe an obituary there will help too!

I admit I didn't read this thread fully to know all the details of your Frederick, but I don't think think the Kelowna fellow is yours:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b55e5a8e-3d45-481e-aa6c-ed96b28f227a
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 April 19 09:58 BST (UK): Quote from: Katharine75 on Friday 19 April 19 14:35 BST (UK)
Hi all. I am still hoping someone might know where I could get an obituary/death notice for Agnes (Le Beau) and John HENDERER? Or find further information on Frederick GORE. Could he be the man who died in 1972 at Kelowna, British Columbia? Maybe an obituary there will help too!
Thanks, Katharine.

Nothing on the Henderer's yet but here is Julia Le Beau (no mention of Frederick in her obituary)

The Eugene Guard (Eugene, Oregon) 19 May 1948, Wed - Page 5

https://tinyurl.com/y53bpjzx

The Eugene Guard (Eugene, Oregon) 19 May 1948, Wed - Page 17

https://tinyurl.com/y3ec6mm2

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 20 April 19 12:33 BST (UK): You have both dates of death for John and Agnes Henderer, might be worth contacting Cottage Grove Library to see if they can help you ? There is an "Ask th Librarian" link here

https://www.cottagegrove.org/library

Sandra
Title: Re: Looking for info on family in Ontario - not sure where to find Canadian records.
Post by: lmfamilyresearch on Wednesday 24 April 19 17:22 BST (UK): Quote from: RunKitty on Monday 28 March 16 00:55 BST (UK)

Civil registration started in 1869, so if Catharine died prior to that, you won't find her in the Ontario Deaths collection (availably on Ancestry, but also available.. for free.. on familysearch).

Just remember that even though civil registration started in 1869 it didn't mean that people/parishes were compliant. It took a long time for that to happen. My second-great grandmother's death in 1888 is not in any records that I can find. The only place I found it was on her gravestone.

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