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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
I attach something, we have in our Family Papers, which survive.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to reply? Thank you.
Kind regards, Mark Hood
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From Ancestry website Apprentice indenture Thorne
Mordecai Casson master
Apprentice John Cockin 28 July 1796
Mordecai Hood Casson
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Thorne/Thorne34Dry.html
Thorne 1834 trade directory
Miscellaneous
Casson Mordecai Hood, currier,Silver st
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Quaker records of birth and death have him as Mordecai HORD Casson
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
I presume you have seen this ...
http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/casson/285/
"As for Edwin's forebears, by chance, I was in contact some years ago with an American Casson descendant (still called Casson, but not a descendant of Edwin's), who had been given an archive of materials put together by one Jane Casson Hood in 1888 in England. Those records tend to confirm my research that Edwin's father was Benjamin Casson," Jane Casson Hood was married to William Hood who died Selby 1870 and Jane's Will dated 11 May 1893 proved at Wakefield in 1794, refers to 'Edwin Hood' as her son "who was the third child of Mordecai Casson and Sarah (nee Curtis)."
"As for the coat of arms, I am none the wiser. Our family story has it that Edwin had a carriage with a coat of arms on the door, being a castle" A book regarding Crests under Casson says "Tower" not Castle. There is no reference in Jane Casson Hood's Will to a Coat of Arms, or a Family Crest "with a bird flying from it. The associated motto was "I follow flying". I have also researched coats of arms and see the similarity to/derivation from? that of the Cassons of Ffestiniog. My great great grandmother kept a cravat (said to be Edwin's) that had the Casson crest on it. It was deliberately burned - along with diaries - by a relative who was not fond of family history! I still don't know whether Edwin had some entitlement to use the crest," Acording to the book on Crests, the Tower with a bird flying from it, was the Crest of Casson. I understand from another family, that a Coat of Arms cannot be passed without formal Royal approval and a Notice is usually placed in the London Gazette. "or what the connection might be to those Casson families."
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"Am interested to hear about the Lyster connection" re Lyster, so am I "and to know what land that might be. We have always had a story that Edwin owned "land", but so far have found some land in "Woodlands" and also in the town of Thorne (where many Cassons lived)."
The 'Outwoods of Selby' were on Selby Common and under Charities in a book, some Selby individuals are mentioned, including the Reverend John Turner and John Spencer
See page 346 and 347
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0zBbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA346&lpg=PA346&dq=Out+woods+of+Selby+John+Turner+John+Spencer&source=bl&ots=Y7lI5ekFKU&sig=Fc16TSUIMrKS6UKT1P-Y0wKuW0k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9zcqK9ufLAhVFPxQKHb8vAqwQ6AEIHjAB
The reference to Lyster is interesting.
Kind regards Mark
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Quaker records of birth and death have him as Mordecai HORD Casson
Interest point ;- Mordecai Casson Quaker entries are monthly meeting house in Pickering
http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/
William Hood X Jane Casson married 1851 in Scarborough
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
I presume you have seen this ...
http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/casson/285/
"As for Edwin's forebears, by chance, I was in contact some years ago with an American Casson descendant (still called Casson, but not a descendant of Edwin's), who had been given an archive of materials put together by one Jane Casson Hood in 1888 in England. Those records tend to confirm my research that Edwin's father was Benjamin Casson," Jane Casson Hood was married to William Hood who died Selby 1870 and Jane's Will dated 11 May 1893 proved at Wakefield in 1794, refers to 'Edwin Hood' as her son "who was the third child of Mordecai Casson and Sarah (nee Curtis)."
[Part Struck out and Note in red (previously in blue) added by BushInn1746. If the researcher acquired the Marriage, UK Census and Will of Jane Hood, alias Jane Casson Hood of Selby (late of Brayton), they will see that the father of Edwin Hood was William Hood]
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Kind regards Mark
Hello All
I was interested in the reference to "the book-case and drawers that belonged to the Simpsons" in the Will of Jane Hood (Jane Casson Hood of Westfield in the Parish of Brayton, "Proved at Wakefield the 19th day of June 1894 by Edwin Hood and Marion Scaum two of the children of the said deceased") .
Byfield Selby, the home of William Hood and Jane Hood his widow also of Wren Lane, Selby (according to his 6th July 1870 Inquest at Selby and who had previously married Jane Casson), according to the 1781 Selby Assessment lists Byfield as being occupied by Mary Simpson, so that probably indicates where the bookcase came from.
I was also interested to note John Green at Cross Byfield, because coincidentally a John Green is later renting part of the Wren Lane premises from George Hood in 1835 / 1836.
Regarding John Spencer, it does not say Gent, so it is unclear if he was the John Spencer Gent of Selby who died Selby 1809 and linked to John Spencer of Conisbrough Park (John Spencer of Selby 1810 Will Abstract).
Regards Mark
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Hi, I'm following with interest, I wonder if this fellow had any family connection, a well known name in my area and one or two points of interest, Quaker, Mordecai and Mary Casson etc.
Frank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Casson
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Hi, I'm following with interest, I wonder if this fellow had any family connection, a well known name in my area and one or two points of interest, Quaker, Mordecai and Mary Casson etc.
Frank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Casson
Hello Frank
Thanks for the reply.
William Hood, Selby, [aged] 54 at his death in 1870 was listed as a Quaker, on page 32.
https://archive.org/stream/annualmonitororo29alex#page/32/mode/2up/search/Hood
Jane C. Hood, 76 4 3mo. 1894. Selby. Widow of William Hood
https://archive.org/stream/annualmonitororo1895alex#page/106/mode/2up/search/William+Hood
However, his father George Hood (my 4x Gt. Grandfather) is not listed as a Quaker at death, in the Society of Friends Annual Monitor.
Leeds University Library (holders of the Selby Quaker Burial Notes) say George Hood dying 18 September 1845 at Selby is not listed.
Regards Mark
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Hello All
Managed to see several Selby Manor records, found on TNA, Manorial Documents Register.
Unfortunately the transfer of Lord Petre's premises from Gibson to Hood c.1812 does not seem to have survived.
However, William Hood John Hood and George Hood Jun'r are in the Admissions book to the Manor of Selby in 1842 and I managed to find the Byefield document amongst the Manor of Selby Court Rolls, just before closing.
Sadly, the very document is folded to the side and then all are stitched at the top onto the roll, so if I want to see it all, their Conservator will have to untie it from the Court Roll.
It relates to Byfield, five acres with Appurts (paid £15 to photograph what can be seen). Photos have reference to a Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough late of Selby aforesaid Sailmaker deceased, whose widow Mary Gouldsbrough has surrendered the Byfield premises to the Manor Court at Selby and wishes, it be transferred to the Hoods.
The Jurors at the Manor of Selby Court have agreed that the three Hoods can be Admitted to the Manor of Selby and take over 5 acres at Byfield with the Appurtenances, with reference to the Customs of the Manor.
It is not absolutely clear as to whether the Gouldsbrough's have left the premises (Copyhold) in their Will to the Hoods or not, as £29 is changing hands from the Hoods but this could be the 'fine due' to the Manorial Court (when Copyhold property changes hands).
It seems a £350 mortgage taken out by Thomas Gouldsbrough has to be repaid, borrowed fom a John Abraham of Hull.
I'll be checking Wills, for any Gouldsbrough - Hood family link.
Regards Mark
Copyhold property ... definition for smaller landholding within a Manor ..
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/deedsindepth/copyhold/copyhold.aspx
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Some bits of info
One ? -Thomas Gouldbrough 8th April 1840 burial Selby/Brayton (No age given)
A mention in Google Books -Law journal 1891 Thomas Gouldsbrough and a Ann sailmakers Selby -Solicitors Parker and Parker.
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Dades entry Selby baptism 1802 may give some good FH history of Mrs Mary Gouldsbrough nee ? (Edited Russell ???- Re Goughy post below)
Fam/Search + christening: Thomas (Son)
17 March 1802
SELBY, YORK, ENGLAND
father:
Thomas Gouldsbrough
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Funny enough Thomas Gouldsbrough sail maker Ousegate Selby listed under R.Gibson 1800 Selby Trades - Mountain book 1800
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Morning All
Had a quick look at Thomas Gouldsbrough. He married Elizabeth Buttle 1 January 1784 in Snaith. Elizabeth dies 1803. He remarries 11 Feb 1805 in Sculcoates
Thomas Gouldsbrough widower of the Parish of Selby in the diocese of York and Mary RUSSELL widow and of this Parish. Married by License
Thomas buried Selby 8 Apr 1840. Mary buried Selby 1 Oct 1848
EDIT
From Dade records
Thomas was son of John Goldsbrough of Knottlingley sailcloth maker by Jane his wife. Elizabeth dau of George Buttle of Snaith Plumber & Glazier by Ann his wife dau of Tarbotton of Selby Innkeeper
Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough details at Borthwick
Court York Prerogative & Exchequer Courts
Court detail Prerogative Court of York
Document type Will
Document reference vol.202, f.254
Index reference 1840031842080110.tif/12
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Morning All
Had a quick look at Thomas Gouldsbrough. He married Elizabeth Buttle 1 January 1784 in Snaith. Elizabeth dies 1803. He remarries 11 Feb 1805 in Sculcoates
Thomas Gouldsbrough widower of the Parish of Selby in the diocese of York and Mary RUSSELL widow and of this Parish. Married by License
Thomas buried Selby 8 Apr 1840. Mary buried Selby 1 Oct 1848
bingo- the connection. Great find Goughy
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Dades entry Selby baptism 1802 may give some good FH history of Mrs Mary Gouldsbrough nee ? (Edited Russell ???- Re Goughy post below)
Mary Russell was a WIDOW
Mark - is this possibly Sarah Hood's (nee Russell) mother re-marrying????? I have not really looked at Sarah's family, so don't know when her parents died etc.
Will of John Goldsbrough Sailmaker Knottingley 1809
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7218970
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Thanks for your posts Goughy and dobfarm
I'll apply for the Thomas Gouldsbrough Will, but I fear from your replies re Russell, that it will unlikely give any descent to George Hood of Selby, Senior (married Sarah Russel 1815) >:(
George Hood [Jun'r] was also a Manor of Selby Court Juror, by the 1850s, interesting ;D
The phrase is sometimes ... 'owing suit to the Manor', or, suit to the Lord's Court
Edited earlier post and a link re Copyhold - small landholding and seems to be what is happening.
Kind regards, Mark
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Agree, it possibly won't help with George Snr ancestry, however, it may start a trail of "his wealth" coming via Sarah. You never know.... that's why I asked if you had found deaths of Sarah's parent's I took a leap of hope in that the Mary Russell widow was actually Sarah's mother. This would make sense in transferring the property to the three Hood brothers (her grandsons).
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Hi Goughy and dobfarm
I'm very thankful to you both, for your updates re Gouldsbrough link to Russel.
Lets hope the Gouldbrough's Will writer was a Mr Jobsworth and paid by the word saying how Sarah Russel married George Hood the son of ................
In my first post on this thread, is one of many 1894 - 1895 letters and two Wills of when William Hood's adult children were seeking admission to the Manor of Selby, in respect of the same Byfield property at Selby.
In 1842 only the Court Roll and the Verdict survives, re the Hoods being Admitted.
I'll order Gouldsbrough's Will bundle!
Kind regards, Mark
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Dades entry Selby baptism 1802 may give some good FH history of Mrs Mary Gouldsbrough nee ? (Edited Russell ???- Re Goughy post below)
Mary Russell was a WIDOW
Mark - is this possibly Sarah Hood's (nee Russell) mother re-marrying????? I have not really looked at Sarah's family, so don't know when her parents died etc.
Will of John Goldsbrough Sailmaker Knottingley 1809
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7218970
Will of John Goldsbrough Sailmaker Knottingley 1809
There is a one off only year entry of a George Hood on the Knottingley land tax 1811- 1812 ???
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Sarah Russel
birth 30 September 1793
Selby, York's, England
baptism 9 October 1793
father William Russel & mother Mary
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William Russel birth 1763 spouce Mary Burton birth 1772
marriage 17 May 1792
Selby, York, England (Dades ?)
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Need William's burial year and Will if he left one to be before 1805 to make Widow Mrs Mary Russell wife of Thomas Gouldbrough death 1840 to be Mary Burton.
Mary Gouldbrough death age 1848 would be helpful
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I cannot find burial for William Russel, Mariner in Selby, hence my asking Mark if he had traced Sarah's parents' deaths to try to "prove" if Mary Russell widow is Sarah's mother. Just hope the Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough names the three Hood boys in his Will and gives relationship. As an aside, in 1802 there is a burial for a William Russell in Selby son of William Russell, Mariner of Hull.
Sarah Russell's dade baptism entry gives details of parents and grandparents.
Mary Gouldsbrough's burial record shows she was born in 1772
Think we'll have to see what, if anything, Thomas G's Will brings up
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Years later
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York Herald 19th Oct 1878 Selby County Court (a brief account of article)
Judge F.A. Bedwell.
C. S. Bowman versus Thomas Burton and Thomas Gouldsbrough
C.S.Bownam landlord of the Londesborough Hotel sought to recover cab hire and damage to cab (Drunken brawl in cab) for a sum of £8 - 2s - 6d
Thomas Burton an auctioneer of Selby
Thomas Gouldsbrough a mast and block maker (no place name given- probably Selby)
His honour non suited the plaintiff agaist Burton but gave a verdict for the full amount against Gouldsbrough
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Sarah Russell's parentage from baptism:
William Russell of Selby Sailor son of John Russell of Selby aforesaid Labourer by Martha his wife
Mary daughter of Edward Burton of Selby Wheelwright by Sarah his wife daughter of William Silverwood of Wistow Farmer
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Scenario
1800 James Mountain history of Selby
Edward Burton Raff-merchant ( Dealer of Lumber) Ousegate
X X X X Wheelwright and Cooper are very similar trades
John Burton Joiner Oussegate
Richard Gibson Cooper Wren lane
John Hall Master of Workhouse Gowthorpe
X X X X-- poor-boy George Hood aged about 13/14 in 1800 put in a trade in lumber/timber/wood trade ???
Joseph Hall Schoolmaster Wren lane
Poorboy George Hood marries into Russel/Burton business or wood business
Years later George Hood the overseer of Workhouse
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Sarah Russell's parentage from baptism:
William Russell of Selby Sailor son of John Russell of Selby aforesaid Labourer by Martha his wife
Mary daughter of Edward Burton of Selby Wheelwright by Sarah his wife daughter of William Silverwood of Wistow Farmer
Wheelwright and Cooper maybe ???. Both trades require precision carpentry or joinery and use blacksmith made metal tyre rings fitting to encircle wood wheels & barrels.
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Sarah Russell's parentage from baptism:
William Russell of Selby Sailor son of John Russell of Selby aforesaid Labourer by Martha his wife
Mary daughter of Edward Burton of Selby Wheelwright by Sarah his wife daughter of William Silverwood of Wistow Farmer
Hello Goughy, dobfarm and All
That sounds familiar for Sarah Russel's descent.
I need to get all the photos downloaded (printed) and read, as some other Court Rolls found relating to Byfield Selby have been photographed.
There are accompanying books [Index / Calendars] to the Court Rolls:-
List of Admissions in the several Copyhold Courts of The Honourable E. R. Petre commencing with the Stewardship of M. Mitton
[1st entry] Court Held 28th October 1816.
Court held 30th March 1842.
Gouldsbroughs trustees & mortgees 3 - 13 - 6
to
Hoods
Another book ...
An Account of FINES due within the Copyhold Manors of Selby, Brayton, Thorpe Willowby, Fryston, Hambleton and Hillam
Undated entry
Manors Selby Thomas Goulsbrough Mortgage Surrender to John Abraham
spellings [sic]
Regards Mark
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Mark ~ I think at last your on to something tangible here also Goughy's great finds/facts or help.
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Mark ~ I think at last your on to something tangible here also Goughy's great finds/facts or help.
Thanks Goughy and dobfarm
Re surrender of Byefield, before it passes to the Hood's in 1842, I have managed to read from inside:-
into the hands of the Lord of the said Manor by the hands and acceptance of George Burton and Joseph Richardson ... called or known by the name of Byefield Close containing by estimation five acres more or less situate lying and being in the Township of Selby aforesaid the Lands heretobefore of Mr Tenant but now of William Agar ...
I can only see snippets inside, so I'm trying to work out where Mr Tenant and William Agar fit in, and if possible proprietors, or occupiers.
Kind regards Mark
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Though the Burton's seem to have many (High street trades) trades on Ousegate Selby in trade Directories ~ one took my interest in the 1818 and 1820 York poll books but not in the 1822 trade directory.
Edward Burton-Cordwainer of Selby (= Trade to do with Leather)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-iBkAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA8&dq=edward+burton+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=edward%20burton%20selby&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HSFkAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA9&dq=edward+burton+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=edward%20burton%20selby&f=false
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List of Admissions in the several Copyhold Courts of The Honourable E. R. Petre commencing with the Stewardship of M. Mitton
[1st entry] Court Held 28th October 1816.
Court held 30th March 1842.
Gouldsbroughs trustees & mortgees 3 - 13 - 6
to
Hoods
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spellings [sic]
Regards Mark
Hello All
Further reading seems to indicate that Trustees "George Clarkson the younger of Selby aforesaid Farmer and William Bradley of the same place Stone Mason Trustees for Sale named in the last Will and Testament of the said Thomas Gouldsbrough deceased" ...
When Gouldsbrough's Will arrives, I should know if the Hoods (or Russels) were related to Gouldsbrough's, or not.
Regards Mark
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Morning All
Had a quick look at Thomas Gouldsbrough. He married Elizabeth Buttle 1 January 1784 in Snaith. Elizabeth dies 1803. He remarries 11 Feb 1805 in Sculcoates
Thomas Gouldsbrough widower of the Parish of Selby in the diocese of York and Mary RUSSELL widow and of this Parish. Married by License
Thomas buried Selby 8 Apr 1840. Mary buried Selby 1 Oct 1848
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From Dade records
Thomas was son of John Goldsbrough of Knottlingley sailcloth maker by Jane his wife. Elizabeth dau of George Buttle of Snaith Plumber & Glazier by Ann his wife dau of Tarbotton of Selby Innkeeper
Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough details at Borthwick
Court York Prerogative & Exchequer Courts
Court detail Prerogative Court of York
Document type Will
Document reference vol.202, f.254
Index reference 1840031842080110.tif/12
Quote Mark
Re surrender of Byefield, before it passes to the Hood's in 1842, I have managed to read from inside:-
into the hands of the Lord of the said Manor by the hands and acceptance of George Burton and Joseph Richardson ... called or known by the name of Byefield Close containing by estimation five acres more or less situate lying and being in the Township of Selby aforesaid the Lands heretobefore of Mr Tenant but now of William Agar ...
I can only see snippets inside, so I'm trying to work out where Mr Tenant and William Agar fit in, and if possible proprietors, or occupiers.
Unquote:
Question
If Mary Russel widow (Nee Burton) married Thomas Gouldsbrough Sculcoates 1805---- Why marry in Sculcoates when they both came from Selby also didn't one of George Hood (d 1845) sons marry a Richardson in Sculcoates
If Thomas Gouldbrough, left his wife Mary (Burton/Russel) a sum of money or income from investments or rents for living expence plus a residence house in his estate to cover her remaining life only ? or left her full residue or part of his estate also Mary could have had her own wealth from Burton/Russel estates.
Mary Gouldbrough may have left a Will 1848
Bearing in mind by only 3 years after their marriage 1815 -by 1818 George Hood a (revamped from R Gibson ) Cooper business and Sarah (Russel) a Straw hat maker both in Wren Lane.
Thus if William Russel, Sarah's dad died before 1805- it may suggest the source of the Hood couples wealth in Wren Lane Selby. ???
Though can't rule out a George Hood's father a cooper on ship (Mariner/cooper repairing barrels) came from Glasgow to Yorkshire/Durham (Gateshead/ South Shields-also a captian George Hood in South Shield with lands near Scalby Scarborough in his Durham online Will)
A- John Hood X a Jane Dickinson married 23 November 1762 Scalby Near Scarborough, York, England
Burial Selby 1803 (b1738) Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner. (Prob Grandmother of George Hood d 1845)
Burial Selby John Hood 1819 (B 1737)
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Hello dobfarm
Thank you.
Byefield was Thomas Gouldsbrough's. I have ordered and await the scans of his Will bundle with great interest.
Transferred links, so that I can find them easily.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/prerogative-and-exchequer-courts-of-york-probate-index-1688-1858
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/york-peculiars-probate-index-1383-1883
The custom it seems was to surrender Copyhold property to the Manor Court and the "Devisee" or "Heir at Law" or new owner, would request to be Admitted to the Manor at the Selby Manor Court.
I suspect that George Burton and Joseph Richardson were merely acting for the Manor.
You are quite right, the son John of George Hood and Sarah Russel, was my 3 X Gt. Grandfather John Hood of Selby Tanner, who I discovered served on the West Riding Grand Jury, John Hood married Sarah Richardson in 1846 at Sculcoates (already pregnant with George Hood my 2 X Gt Grandfather).
There are a few 19th Century Court Rolls relating to Byefield Selby (some with strike outs, additional writings added, the odd names of Jurors struck through and changed) before 1842.
Nothing about George Hood is easy, 150 - 200 years later.
Regards Mark
Manor of Selby extract from doc outer - Hull History Centre 2016
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Have often wonder about Albert Einstein Relativity. King Arthur, Robin Hood ! they never seem to have had a beginning or an end either.
George Hood a ' Dr Who !! ' ;D
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Yes, it is frustrating!
Regards Mark
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Hello All
William Hood of Selby aged 35 Bachelor, Brewer son of George Hood, a Brewer married Jane Casson aged 34 Spinster, at Scarborough Register Office on 23 December 1851.
The 1861 Census for William Hood and Jane Hood, Wren Lane, Selby (RG 9/3533? with "Page 6]" printed on), says Jane Hood Wife Marr was born Thorne Yorkshire.
However, George Hood (d.1862) lived with Ann Hood at Byfield Lodge, Selby, per 1861 Census.
Regards Mark
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Mmm, I mentioned Cassons in reply number 6 :)
Frank.
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Thomas Gould(s)brough d 1842
The fact! George Hood d 1845 Selby was still alive and functioning in 1842 and (Sarah Russel) Hood
Sarah (nee Russel) Hood b 1793 , married 1815 to George Hood a Straw hat maker 1818 later decades - tanner and grocer & booze links
Above Sarah's mother Mary Burton b 1772, (assumed same lady) widow Russel to Thomas Gould(s)brough died 1848
The age of the Hood boys William, George and John Hood would be early 20's, above Mary and daughter Sarah granny and mother of the boys- As aforesaid-George Hood sr still alive 1842 after the boys step grandfather Thomas Gouldbrough who would have been an influencing figurehead.
Very business experienced Sarah lived on a very good 30 plus years to 1879 to carry on as head of family and the last descendant living with the elder deceased sometimes pass down historical doc's down their line. ( Russel/Hood/Burton./Gould(s)brough/Silverwood family history researchers)
Anyway Thomas Gouldbrough Will 1842/3 should be interesting.
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Hopefully the Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough may show a link to the Hood boys, however, I have been trying to see if I can find any other links that would tie-in Thomas's wife (widow Mary Russell) being Sarah's mother. Also thought might be useful to have a look at the "Burton family". I appreciate Mark this will not give you any direct info re George Hood but going "outwards" as well as "up and down" ancestral lines sometimes brings a snippet of unexpected info. Here's the Burton family (thank goodness for Dade records)
Edward Burton wheelwright 1744 - 1809 son of Thomas Burton (Rope Maker) and Jane
Marries Ann Blanshard 12 Sept 1769 (Ann dies April 1770) cannot see any child
Marries Sarah Silverwood 9 Dec 1771 - buried 13 May 1776
- child Mary Burton 1772 (marries William Russell - mother of Sarah Russell (m G Hood)
Marries Mary Astley 3 Oct 1780
- children
Thomas Burton born 1775 died 1789
Sarah born 1781 died 1790
William born 1784 married Martha Russell (dau of Benjamin Russell)
Edward born 1786 died 1787
Edward born 1789 died 1824 married Frances Nappy 1813
Thomas born 1791 died 1792
Christopher born 1793 joined Royal Navy as SAILMAKER in 1815 (1851 living in Devon)
Thomas born 1795
Sarah born 1800
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The Cause Papers is a searchable catalogue or listing of more than 14,000 cause papers relating to disputes over matrimony, defamation, tithes, probate, breach of faith by the clergy, and church rights heard between 1300 and 1858 in the Church Courts of the diocese of York. The original records, held in the Borthwick Institute for Archives at the University of York, are the most extensive of their type in the United Kingdom. They offer an extremely valuable resource for family and local historians and scholars interested in social, ecclesiastical, economic and legal history.
http://www.connectedhistories.org/resource.aspx?sr=bc
The website is down at the moment but will return
http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/library/cdfiles/cause
YAS Leeds at Claremont House and Brotherton hall libraries and archives hold tons of black dusty copy hold scrolls and books dating back centuries.
http://www.yas.org.uk/content/archives/librarch.html
If there is anything on George Hood d 1845 - their card index or computer database index system is your best option.
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Hopefully the Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough may show a link to the Hood boys, however, I have been trying to see if I can find any other links that would tie-in Thomas's wife (widow Mary Russell) being Sarah's mother. Also thought might be useful to have a look at the "Burton family". I appreciate Mark this will not give you any direct info re George Hood but going "outwards" as well as "up and down" ancestral lines sometimes brings a snippet of unexpected info. Here's the Burton family (thank goodness for Dade records)
Edward Burton wheelwright 1744 - 1809 son of Thomas Burton (Rope Maker) and Jane
Marries Ann Blanshard 12 Sept 1769 (Ann dies April 1770) cannot see any child
Marries Sarah Silverwood 9 Dec 1771 - buried 13 May 1776
- child Mary Burton 1772 (marries William Russell - mother of Sarah Russell (m G Hood)
Marries Mary Astley 3 Oct 1780
- children
Thomas Burton born 1775 died 1789
Sarah born 1781 died 1790
William born 1784 married Martha Russell (dau of Benjamin Russell)
Edward born 1786 died 1787
Edward born 1789 died 1824 married Frances Nappy 1813
Thomas born 1791 died 1792
Christopher born 1793 joined Royal Navy as SAILMAKER in 1815 (1851 living in Devon)
Thomas born 1795
Sarah born 1800
Wow Goughy!!! Thanks
Saw Benjamin Russell's Will (from FindMyPast at the Library) several days ago, written in 1806 and Martha was one of Benjamin's children.
When Benjamin Russell's Will was proved in 1829, Wm Burton was one of six appearing and the document says "Martha the Wife of the above bounden William Burton" ...
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT: Thanks dobfarm, there is an old Selby Case (18th Cent) - Matthew Hodd (witness I think).
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Sarah Russell's parentage from baptism:
William Russell of Selby Sailor son of John Russell of Selby aforesaid Labourer by Martha his wife
Mary daughter of Edward Burton of Selby Wheelwright by Sarah his wife daughter of William Silverwood of Wistow Farmer
Hi Goughy
It takes years to learn these trades.
More by bumbling about on Google Books, I found in the search engine Baines's Yorkshire: West Riding, with a new introd. by O. Ashmore
https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=russel+straw+hatmaker&=
https://books.google.com/books?id=OgtCAAAAIAAJ
Edward Baines - 1969 -with a new introd. by O. Ashmore Snippet view - More editions (a r
Meadow lane Russel Jane,straw hat mf. ... butcher, 63, Kirkgate ; house, 21, Templar street Ryley Benj. butcher, Upperhead row Sadler M. T. merchant, Albion street Settle Susannah, straw hat maker, Meadow lane Sewell John, grocer LEEDS.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds22Dry.html
Meadow lane is Leeds, By Baines 1822 directory
Jane Russel Straw hat manufacture is in Woodhouse lane
William Russel Grocer and Dealer is in Meadow Lane Leeds
•Jackson (Surname Jackson) John Smith, tanner, Low fold, Bank; house, Woodhouse lane
( A Jackson was owner the Tannery Gowthorpe Selby)
•Richardson William a Cooper, Timble bridge Leeds (Woodhouse lane Leeds)
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/Trade%20directories.pdf
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ncl/TradeDir1.html
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
EDIT: I think we could take break, whilst we await Thomas Gouldsbrough's Will? It might give a clue as to George Hood's origin? I have ordered two Collinson and 1829 Gibson, Selby Wills, too.
That is interesting dobfarm, that a straw hat manufacturer by the name of Russel was also at Leeds
LEEDS 1822 by Baines
Russel Jane, straw hat mfr. Woodhs. ln.
Russel Thos. flour dealer, Nether mills
Russel Wm. grocer, flour, &c. dealer, 68 Meadow lane
Russell William, schoolmaster, Camp lane, Water lane
SELBY 1822 by Edward Baines
Straw Hat Manufacturers.
Cockerill Tamar, Micklegate
Gatland Ann, Church Yard
Hood Sarah, Wren Lane [nee Sarah Russel, we believe]
and
Coopers.
Farey John, Quay
Hood George, Wren lane
Scawby George, Millgate
There was also a George Hood, shoe manfacturer at Hunslet near Leeds and Leeds, in Directories of this period. Although Staff Sergeant George Hood of Leeds was a Cordwainer on his Army record (extract here) ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728347.18
I have a s/h book coming possibly today which has an Article on Stourton Lodge (written in the 1960s around the time Stourton Lodge was demolished), because Father Leadbitter came from Stourton to Selby every two weeks in the 1780s. The Roman Catholics had to move from Middleton to Stourton, which I'm led to believe is near Leeds.
There was also a Henry Hood of Roundhay (nr Leeds), coming up in my newspapers searches, he had shares in one of the Railway Companies.
I have also ordered the 1863 Dec Quarter Birth of James A[lfred] Hood in the Sunderland District, hoping for a township and address, to see if I can establish why Sarah Hood (wife of James Hood) was in the Registration District of Sunderland, as they were probably back in Selby when their next child George Arundel Hood (Sept Qtr 1865) was born.
Also awaiting Thomas Gouldsbrough's Will, with interest (referred to in the Hood Admissions to Selby Manor).
Also awaiting reply from renewed email, this time to the R.C. Leeds Diocese, regarding records of their 1845 burials and 1780s births, for the Selby area.
Calverley Lad, has sent me a large list of Hood Leeds burials, but only Sgt George Hood [Army George] of Leeds noticed.
Kind regards Mark
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All the locations - Stourton, Middleton and Roundhay are all in Leeds.
Stourton/Middleton being south Leeds, with Roundhay being north Leeds.
Brian
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Thanks Brian,
Regards Mark
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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
I attach something, we have in our Family Papers, which survive.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to reply? Thank you.
Kind regards, Mark Hood
William Hood X Jane Casson had another son Alfred William Hood born 1855 Selby
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
1869 Alfred William Hood is at Ackworth Quaker boarding school 1869
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rhw4AAAAMAAJ&q=sarah+hood+selby&dq=sarah+hood+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
1870 Father William Hood died 1870 Selby aged 54
1871 Alfred William Hood is now an apprentice grocer to Mr King in York (Name Richardson in the household)
1886 Alfred William Hood X Edith Scamm or Scaum married Selby
1891 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scamm) are in Latchford (Port), Lancashire/Cheshire boarder
1901 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scamm) are in Strewberry street (Not far from Jenning Street home of the Hood's Coopers/Hoopers/a dad Richard a Mariner) Drypool Sculcoates
1911 Alfred William Hood is in Sculcoates
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Hello
Thanks for searching dobfarm.
Children of William Hood of Selby (d. Jul 1870, aged 54), were Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract) and Beatrice Hood, mentioned later in Jane Hood's Will. Seen the Ackworth School book online.
Yes, got 1861 Census and Alfred Wm Hood aged 6 was a son of William Hood.
Salvage Hunters with Drew, were at Ackworth School. The painting of the founder was "John Fothergill", well that's a familiar Selby name!
Re Richardson, this is probably linked to Sarah Hood (nee Richardson), wife and then widow of John Hood the Tanner who died 1860 (son of George Hood married Selby 1815). Both John Hood & his widow Sarah, were buried at Selby Cemetery.
I did think about asking Goughy please (provided the weather does not wreck her hairdo!) if she might take a look at their Headstone/s, you never know if there might be ... a reference "In Memory" to an unknown Hood relation, or Hood death at sea, or in a foreign conflict?
Despite extensive research, no unknown Hood found to date, living in a known Hood household.
Regards Mark
EDIT: Edwin is mentioned at a Quaker Holiday gathering, who on the 29th will be walking to Wingfield Manor and in the evening Mr Edwin C Hood will give an evening lecture "Wingfield Manor". - Belper News 24th July 1903
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I did think about asking Goughy please (provided the weather does not wreck her hairdo!) if she might take a look at their Headstone/s
l'll have an amble round for you.
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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
I attach something, we have in our Family Papers, which survive.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to reply? Thank you.
Kind regards, Mark Hood
William Hood X Jane Casson had another son Alfred William Hood born 1855 Selby
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
1869 Alfred William Hood is at Ackworth Quaker boarding school 1869
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rhw4AAAAMAAJ&q=sarah+hood+selby&dq=sarah+hood+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
1870 Father William Hood died 1870 Selby aged 54
1871 Alfred William Hood is now an apprentice grocer to Mr King in York (Name Richardson in the household)
1886 Alfred William Hood X Edith Scamm or Scaum married Selby
1891 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Latchford (Port), Lancashire/Cheshire boarder
1901 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Strewberry street (Not far from Jenning Street home of the Hood's Coopers/Hoopers/a dad Richard a Mariner) Drypool Sculcoates
1911 Alfred William Hood is in Sculcoates
Thank you Goughy, don't know what the graveyard is like, so take care.
Going back to dobfarm's recent post 1st October 2016.
Yes, got 1861 Census and Alfred Wm Hood aged 6 was a son of William Hood of Selby (who was son of George Hood dying Selby 18 September 1845).
Regarding Jenning Street, Sutton, Hull. I saved/printed some Hood Census off a while ago and ...
Is there a connection please, between a known family Alfred Wm Hood of mine and these earlier Jenning Street Hoods of 1841?
1841 Census
Borough of Kingston upon Hull,
Parish or Township of Sutton. [I presume 'Sutton on Hull']
Jenning Street
Elizabeth Hood aged 50, In, Y [Yes - Whether born in Same County]
next right hand page
William Hood aged 20 Ap, Y.
Sussanna Hood aged 13, FS, Y.
Se[?] Ann Hood aged 10, Y.
George Harrison aged 65, Ag Lb, Y.
John Henshaw aged 25 2 ... , N.
...
A suggestion by a Rootschatter, a while back for William Hood was ...
Christening 9th November 1819
Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull
Father Richard Hood
Mother Elizabeth
However, William Hood, baptised Selby, 17th May 1816 (son of George Hood and Sarah Hood, nee Russel), was missing at Selby in the 1841 Census.
Regards Mark
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Hood ? / Russel (-Hat makers - Milliners) in business general knowledge skills pre 1812 (as Milliner Hood's pop up in Finkle Street Selby in census years later)
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In exceptions; a baptism is not always the same year or even same decade and not always the place/parish of birth.
Sarah Richardson marriage to John Hood born/bapt Selby 1846 Sculcoates near Hull ( Why ??? not Selby)
In censuses post 1851 Sarah Hood nee Richardson, says she was born in Selby and in one census post John's death, is living with her sister who also was born Selby.
So why was John H and Sarah R married in Sculcoates 1846 and John's brother William missing off the 1851c 5 years later bearing in mind Hull is just a days tidal river boat ride from Selby docks to Drypool docks Hull.
3 requests
Have you got Sarah Richardson baptism and her fathers name off the 1846 marriage certificate of John H and Sarah R
What was cause death Sarah Hood nee Russel 1879 Selby (old age / natural decay ? )
What was cause death George Hood 1845 Selby (blood circulation / heart trouble ? )
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Some interest stuff coming up on John Hood's (Marr 1846 to Sarah R) kids and John's business interest
also James Hood business
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Christopher Gibson of Northampton ? pre paper tail also is interesting
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733067.msg5782971#msg5782971
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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
I attach something, we have in our Family Papers, which survive.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to reply? Thank you.
Kind regards, Mark Hood
William Hood X Jane Casson had another son Alfred William Hood born 1855 Selby
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22alfred%20william%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1853-1855~
1869 Alfred William Hood is at Ackworth Quaker boarding school 1869
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rhw4AAAAMAAJ&q=sarah+hood+selby&dq=sarah+hood+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
1870 Father William Hood died 1870 Selby aged 54
1871 Alfred William Hood is now an apprentice grocer to Mr King in York (Name Richardson in the household)
1886 Alfred William Hood X Edith Scamm or Scaum married Selby
1891 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Latchford (Port), Lancashire/Cheshire boarder
1901 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Strewberry street (Not far from Jenning Street home of the Hood's Coopers/Hoopers/a dad Richard a Mariner) Drypool Sculcoates
1911 Alfred William Hood is in Sculcoates
Thank you Goughy, don't know what the graveyard is like, so take care.
Going back to dobfarm's recent post 1st October 2016.
Yes, got 1861 Census and Alfred Wm Hood aged 6 was a son of William Hood of Selby (who was son of George Hood dying Selby 18 September 1845).
Regarding Jenning Street, Sutton, Hull. I saved/printed some Hood Census off a while ago and ...
Is there a connection please, between a known family Alfred Wm Hood of mine and these earlier Jenning Street Hoods of 1841?
1841 Census
Borough of Kingston upon Hull,
Parish or Township of Sutton. [I presume 'Sutton on Hull']
Jenning Street
Elizabeth Hood aged 50, In, Y [Yes - Whether born in Same County]
next right hand page
William Hood aged 20 Ap, Y.
Sussanna Hood aged 13, FS, Y.
Se[?] Ann Hood aged 10, Y.
George Harrison aged 65, Ag Lb, Y.
John Henshaw aged 25 2 ... , N.
...
A suggestion by a Rootschatter, a while back for William Hood was ...
Christening 9th November 1819
Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull
Father Richard Hood
Mother Elizabeth
However, William Hood, baptised Selby, 17th May 1816 (son of George Hood and Sarah Hood, nee Russel), was missing at Selby in the 1841 Census.
Regards Mark
See post above as well
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Sculcoates is the 64 million dollar question --------------Why!
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Is there a connection please, between a known family Alfred Wm Hood of mine and these earlier Jenning Street Hoods of 1841?
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Richard Gibson a cooper 1792 - 1811 Selby
George Hood a cooper 1812 onwards Selby
John Gibson a cooper 1829 Trades Directory `Hull 1829
William Hood a cooper Sculcoates Hull 1841c
Sussanah Hood sister of thought William Hood above ! married 1853 a husband Jonas Brough a Hooperman father William Brough a Hooperman (makers of barrel hoops)
John Hood & Sarah Richardson marry 1846 in Sculcoates
1901 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Strewberry street (Not far from Jenning Street home of the Hood's Coopers/Hoopers/a dad Richard a Mariner) Drypool Sculcoates
1911 Alfred William Hood is in Sculcoates
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Sarah Richardson marriage to John Hood born/bapt Selby 1846 Sculcoates near Hull ( Why ??? not Selby)
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So why was John H and Sarah R married in Sculcoates 1846 and John's brother William missing off the 1851c 5 years later bearing in mind Hull is just a days tidal river boat ride from Selby docks to Drypool docks Hull.
3 requests
Have you got Sarah Richardson baptism and her fathers name off the 1846 marriage certificate of John H and Sarah R
What was cause death Sarah Hood nee Russel 1879 Selby (old age / natural decay ? )
What was cause death George Hood 1845 Selby (blood circulation / heart trouble ? )
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Some interest stuff coming up on John Hood's (Marr 1846 to Sarah R) kids and John's business interest
also James Hood business
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Christopher Gibson of Northampton ? pre paper tail also is interesting
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733067.msg5782971#msg5782971
Hello dobfarm and All
Re 16th Aug 1846 Sculcoates Marriage of John Hood, Tanner in the Parish of Selby and Sarah Richardson (now online), it must have been a 'shotgun marriage' as George Hood (my 2 X Gt. G.) was born 31st January 1847 at Selby (to the above couple) and have GRO Birth Certificate (not baptism).
I think the shame back then likely forced their marriage away at St Mary's, Parish of Sculcoates. There is no Father's name, nor Occupation (GRO full Certificate and no newspaper announcement), but the Witnesses were John Richardson and Hannah Richardson.
John aged 41 and Sarah Hood aged 66 above were buried Selby Cemetery in 1860 and 1886 both in grave 1531. Cemetery opened abt 1858.
George Hood aged 37 the farmer of Byefield and Bondgate, Selby, was buried January 1862 and William [his son] 24 year [should be month] old son "Son of Ann" in burial register, July 1862, both in grave 615. Seems Ann Hood widow went on to remarry, becoming Ann Knott (traced in Census by son Charles Hood, son aged 2 in 1861 and 12 years in 1871, both born Selby).
Son Charles Hood born Selby 1858 became a Railway Signalman with three children born Castleford, Yorkshire by 1891. Charles wife Hannah Hood was born at Hirst[?] and Emma Hirst a "Visitor" and Married was born Ledsham, Yorkshire and aged 57 in 1891.
George Hood (d. 18th Sept 1845) "Disease of the Heart 18 months certified", got no other information. Burial place unknown.
George Hood's widow, still called Sarah Hood at death (nee Sarah Russell) dying Selby aged 86 years 28th November 1879 at 11 Gowthorpe, Certificate says "Senile Decay certified by Joseph Todd MRCS" & "Jane Hood Daughter in Law Present at death Selby". Sarah Hood - Burial place unknown.
Regards Mark
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Its possible Sarah Richardson was born in Selby but her parents moved to Sculcoates by 1846
No parents name on the 1846 marriage of John H and Sarah R; could be (We known George Hood died 1845 year before) so Sarah's father probably also deceased by 1846 and vicar left the fathers box blank
So John H losses his father the year before 1845 and get his girlfriend Sarah R pregnant then runs off to Sculcoates to get married 1846 -Strange! the plot thickens.
Possible the parents of both the couples families left alive all living in Selby, did not approve of the couple marring.
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Charles Hood born Selby June Qtr 1858 became a Railway Signalman and several children were born Castleford, Yorks. Charles wife Hannah Hood was born at Hirst[?].
Emma Hirst a Visitor in the 1891 Census was born Ledsham, Yorks and married, aged 57 [or 59].
Interested in the "Visitor" Emma Hirst in the 1891 Census?
What was the full name Emma Hirst's husband and his place of birth in the adjacent Census please? Trying to work out her maiden name?
Thanks, Mark
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Seems this Charles Hood of Selby married twice in the 1880s.
Charles Hood & Martha Winter, MARRIAGE in the District of Selby, June 1884 Qtr.
Allan Winter Hood, BIRTH in the District of Pontefract, Dec 1884 Qtr.
Mabel Hood, Birth [possible, one in the District of Pontefract, June 1886 Qtr.]
Martha Hood, aged 24, DEATH in the District of Pontefract, Mar 1887 Qtr.
Free BMD links Hood to Richardson again (not got any of these Certificates, nor checked the actual Indexes)
Charles Hood = Hannah Richardson, MARRIAGE in the District of Pontefract, Dec 1887 Qtr.
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Re John Hood's widow Sarah Hood of Selby, apparently she liked to think of herself as Gentry.
There is something that backs this up, she subscribed a £5 payment to a book about Selby and rather than say about her family origins (my family), it was mentioned she was a Freeholder and in one print run got herself listed under Gentry.
Regards Mark
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15 May 1884 - Barlby
Charles Hood, 26, Bachelor, Railway Signalman. Father: George, deceased
Martha Winters, 21, Spinster. Father: Charles, deceased
Witnesses: Thomas Kettlewell, Selina Winters, Richard Storr
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1887 - Banns - Hensall cum Heck and Castleford (no church given)
Charles Hood, widower of Castleford and Hannah Richardson, spinster of Heck read 11, 18, 25 September
Selby - 6 December 1855
George Hood, 32, bachelor, farmer. Father: George, Brewer
Ann Marrison, 28, spinster. Father William, stone mason.
1868
Reuben Knott and Ann Hood.
1871 Charles Hood, aged 12 is living with Reuben Knott and Ann
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Sarah Richardson b 1819 to 1821 always says she was born Selby
After looking at the 1846 marriage register, Sarah Richardson was from Sculcoates parish and John Hood from Selby parish.
There is a baptism in Selby Sarah daughter of ~~~ Page 117 entry 932 ~ William & Mary Richardson a watchmaker bapt 16th Aug 1819 in the abbey (can't find her on 1841c in Selby)
1841c Gibson's Square (A yard on maps) Sculcoates
Does not say relationship but oldest children usually start first the work down to youngest
Sarah Richardson aged 20 come well down the list (Could be niece )
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ASarah~%20%2Bsurname%3ARichardson~%20%2Bresidence_place%3Asutton~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1819-1821~&collection_id=1493745
:)
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George Hood's widow, still called Sarah Hood at death (nee Sarah Russell) dying Selby aged 86 years 28th November 1879 at 11 Gowthorpe, Certificate says "Senile Decay certified by Joseph Todd MRCS" & "Jane Hood Daughter in Law Present at death Selby". Sarah Hood - Burial place unknown.
Regards Mark
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11 Gowthorpe ~ That's where the Old Quaker burial ground is.
https://www.gps-data-team.com/where/DHL-Selby.html
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/11+Gowthorpe,+Selby+YO8+4HE/@53.7837897,-1.0726197,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x48793cfafdc16a5f:0x9a3f6cc12b8a1ac6!8m2!3d53.7837866!4d-1.070431
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Hello All
Thank you Bumblebee for the Charles Hood (b. Selby 1858) confirmation (married twice, second marriage in 1887 to a - Hannah Richardson) and additional information.
Charles Hood and the unknown Emma Hirst, visitor?
I'm also interested in Emma Hirst "M" "visitor" born Ledsham, Yorkshire, in the Charles Hood household (1891), in the adjacent Census, to find out her husband was. Please see Reply 50.
Richardson's of Sutton, Kingston upon Hull (1841) and John & Sarah Hood of Selby
Thank you dobfarm for reply and accompanying email, good detective work too. My 1851 Census and onward for John and Sarah Hood of Selby says Sarah was born Selby.
Jno Richardson and Hannah Richardson in your Sutton on Hull 1841 Census, are possibly the witnesses on the John Hood, Marriage Certificate (extract attached).
Neighbour - Thomas Gibson and two Cooper Members of Gibson Household
Interesting the neighbour Gibson's were born Scotland. Thanks for the info.
Selby Graves of John Hood, Tanner and Sarah Hood (nee Richardson)
Be interesting to see if anything of interest is on their Headstones at Selby Cemetery. (When we were at Beverley the swing railway bridge had closed the line).
Recent info from Selby Town Council ...
John Hood, Tanner, dying Dec 1860 was Burial 242; 13 [no column title]; Grave 1531; 16 [no column title].
George Hood, Farmer, dying Jan 1862, was Burial 359; 19 [no column title; Grave 615; 19 [no column title].
Selby Quaker Burial Ground
Photo of the Selby Quaker Burial Ground is here ...
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3798170
A burial place was specifically reserved for Jane Hood alias Jane Casson Hood (widow of Wm Hood d.1870, aged 54), after the Selby Burial Ground Closure circa 1887.
Regards Mark
EDIT:
My Selby transcriptions only go to 1812, but found this re a John Richardson (might not be the same).
Baptism of Robert Hawcroft 13 May 1811 ...
Wm son of Thos Hawcroft of Hambleton by Mary dau of Timothy Middleton.
Jane dau of Robt Conkey, Gardiner of Whitehaven in Cumberland by Katherine dau of John Richardson of Whitehaven.
Born 11th May.
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I read a post thread a while ago of which, as usual can't re-find it, but in brief from memory : The lady was looking for a burial in Skipton 1848, the parish register burials seemed to dry up as hit and miss around that time into an overspill burial ground & later the overspill burial ground turned into Skipton council cemetery which opened 1860's officially The 1848 burial was recorded in separate earliest interim register of the church overspill ground (Parish register covered an area) council cemetery records .
Therefore did Selby council pre 1858 cemetery ground start its life as the Abbey interim burial overspill cemetery used around 1845 (Again Parish register coverage was an area of chapel/churchs)
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Thanks dobfarm
Regarding Selby Cemetery (Council Cemetery), it seems the earliest/first burials are late 1850s, but something from the Selby Council Register transcription, how can the John Hood, Tanner burial of December 1860 have a higher Grave Number, than the George Hood (Farmer) and his son burials, in 1862.
Unless, the Selby Cemetery was already sectioned and the two Hood 1862 burials are in the next Section.
Recent info from Selby Town Council, re Selby Cemetery ...
John Hood, Tanner, dying Dec 1860 was Burial 242; 13 [no column title]; Grave 1531; 16 [no column title].
George Hood, Farmer, dying Jan 1862, was Burial 359; 19 [no column title; Grave 615; 19 [no column title].
A reference in the Burnley Advertiser 6th June 1857, to the Selby Advertiser, perhaps there are more comments about Selby burials in the corresponding Selby Advertiser copies, if they survive.
Regards Mark
EDIT:
Regarding the inquiry to WYAS Leeds, they have never heard of the Selby Abbey Sexton's Book.
I'm trying Leeds City Archives.
Former Yorkshire Archaeological Society volume at the Brotherton Library (have emailed) ...
Monumental Inscriptions incl Selby (req. 2 working days notice to check, before production) ...
https://library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections-explore/461103/monumental_inscriptions?query=Selby%20church&resultOffset=11
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Thanks dobfarm
Regarding Selby Cemetery (Council Cemetery), it seems the earliest/first burials are late 1850s, but something from the Selby Council Register transcription, how can the John Hood, Tanner burial of December 1860 have a higher Grave Number, than the George Hood (Farmer) and his son burials, in 1862.
Unless, the Selby Cemetery was already sectioned and the two Hood 1862 burials are in the next Section.
George and William are in the unconsecrated section. John in the consecrated section.
As far as the discovery of the ancient burial ground on Church Hill, whilst interesting, unfortunately will have no bearing on the burial whereabouts of your George.
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We'll have to try to track down the year the Selby advertiser started publishing and who if any repository holds 19th century copies of the newspapers on micro film if it goes back to 1857 known date. (From the Burnley Advertiser 6th June 1857)
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We'll have to try to track down the year the Selby advertiser started publishing and who if any repository holds 19th century copies of the newspapers on micro film if it goes back to 1857 known date. (From the Burnley Advertiser 6th June 1857)
Try the British Lending Library at Boston Spa they may know about the "Selby Advertiser." . North Yorkshire Local Libraries don't hold the "Selby Advertiser".
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Hi
The Selby Times and Howdenshire and Goole Advertiser 1869 to 1958
Later Title: Selby Times no. 5130- (25 July 1958-)
There has been a past appeal by Selby Library for earlier copies of the Selby Times.
North Yorks RO, via TNA ... Selby Times 1860-1936 (incomplete), 1988-1990, 1993-99 [MIC 2762-63, 2771, 2783, 3051, 3225, 3679-80, 3825-26, 3870, 3950-51, 4011-12]
The Selby Express, etc.
1872 to 1910
Some interesting comments about old newspapers ...
http://www.howdenshirehistory.co.uk/yorkshire-archive-research.html
Quite what the Selby Advertiser was, I don't know. ...
BL search & select newspapers only adjacent 'Search' box ...
https://www.bl.uk/subjects/news-media#
Yes Goughy is right, sadly for us here, the British Newspaper Library was moved to Wetherby Yorkshire.
You must register for a full Reader Pass to use our Reading Room. Address. The British Library Boston Spa Wetherby West Yorkshire LS23 7BQ
They were very strict over ID, a Dutch chap was going ballistic at BL Euston / St Pancras, because he turned up without sufficient ID. He couldn't prove his temporary (Hotel) address either.
The previous week two people had been convicted for cutting plates from books ...
Regards Mark
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If you email the Lending Library at Boston Spa they will know if they "hold" the "Selby Advertiser" and if so, the years of publication.
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If you email the Lending Library at Boston Spa they will know if they "hold" the "Selby Advertiser" and if so, the years of publication.
Hi Goughy, dobfarm and All,
Sent, enquired about start date of newspaper and copy survival dates too.
Regards Mark
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Seems the "Selby Advertiser" will not go back far enough to report George Hood's daughter's burials 1853 - 1855.
Seems the Selby Advertiser was mentioned in other papers, 1857 to 1860.
Extract of the Advertisement - Leeds Mercury 2nd October 1860 ...
Selby, Yorkshire.
Important Sale of News and Jobbing Types. Printing and Book-binding Materials, Presses, Office Fittings, &c., on Wednesday, the Third of October, 1860.
The Entire PLANT of the "Selby Advertiser" Newspaper, will be offered for Sale by Auction, with about 100 sorts of Jobbing Types, some of which are nearly new, and of the most modern founts,- from Besley's and other eminent founders. ...
The sale was to be held at the premises in Finkle Street, Selby.
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In those days sometimes little bits of news items were put in laboriously long columns of trivia about local happenings and just basically yapping about gossip drifting a long in a paragraph as if one issue.
Week after the death in the next weekly issue, not a obituary as such but some like:
Mrs Hood of ----- died last week after an aging illness and was buried at------, the service was by Rev ---- ----: Mr Kelly found rats are on his farm again: It is said Selby may get a new railway station: ---so on----and on --
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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
EDIT: Four children, 4th was Alfred William Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
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Hello All
I came across Edwin Casson Hood in the 1942 Probate Index and a Frank Tomlinson, retired Railway Clerk claimed Probate.
Edwin Casson Hood (son of Wm Hood of Selby) married Mary Ediss in 1910, (Free BMD & 1911 Census) and was the Grandson of the elusive George Hood (George Hood = Sarah Russell, Selby 1815)
Although, I cannot quite link to Frank Tomlinson, retired, yet (in the 1942 Probate), an Elizabeth Hood born/bapt Knottingley married an Alfred Tomlinson in 1857.
Some of these Tomlinsons also went to the USA.
Unfortunately, I have little information at the moment on Frank Tomlinson, if we can link him please to Elizabeth Tomlinson (nee Hood), I've likely got a sideways relative Thomas Hood at Knottingly, to my elusive / mystery George Hood?
Also a John Hood & Sarah having children at Knottingley 1776 & 1778.
Regards Mark
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I checked out that George Hood land tax (off hand about circa 1813 or 14) living in George Wilkinson property Knottingley- There was also a Francis Hood on the land tax other near years land tax 1810 to 1830's Knottingley, who stemmed from a John Hood Pontefract 18th century but who the George Hood Knottingley L/tax was ? did not seem to link to anything. Unless Francis was Francis George Hood or George Francis Hood.
Thing about around Selby, Pontefract, Hull, Wakefield, Snaith, Leeds, York being East-West and (south of York) North Yorkshire - There is no baptism of any George Hood baptism 1780 to 1790 to link too of any Hood clans in above areas,
Seeing as some of George's kids went Cheshire- Leicester -Northampton down stream -maybe its time to widen your search into Staffordshire as there are a few George Hood baptisms 1783 ish to 1788/9
Bearing in mind there is no actual direct occupation (except his own a cooper) of any Hood linked to George Hood resident Selby 1812 and no actual Hood mariner linked to George Hood married 1815/death 1845 himself- The Scarborough/Selby Hood's could be just coincident. as same surname as George Hood an outsider to Selby 1812 from afar (From where ???).
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There's quite a bio on Elizabeth Hood/Tomlinson & family on Find a Grave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=37479
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Hi
Thanks.
Re: Find a Grave, I noticed that this evening.
Ordered the 1942 Will & Probate (up to 2 wks) as I need more information about this retired Frank Tomlinson.
After reviewing a few things:-
an unknown Mr Hood, link with a Samuel Hirst of Kellington (1833) and an unknown Emma Hirst (Visitor) with Charles Hood born Selby, at Whitwood Normanton (near Castleford) in the 1891 (Charles Hood was another Grandson of my elusive George Hood);
the fact that George Hood's Marriage Bondsman Chester Newby of Whitley baptised Kellington, was prepared to offer a £200 Bond to verify George Hood in 1815;
a George Hood in the Knottingley Land Tax in 1813 -1814 with Wilkinson the owner (per dobfarm) we know the Selby Wilkinsons are linked to Sarah Arundel who married James Hood born Selby (James Hood's father was my elusive George Hood).
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728231.msg5801884#msg5801884
Quote from: BushInn1746 on Saturday 07 November 15 17:37 GMT (UK)
1858 John Wilkinson Hood (James Hood was Son-in-Law of 'Head' Mary Wilkinson, but James wife was nee Arundel)?
James Hood was Son-in-Law of Mary Wilkinson, per Census.
Quote from: Goughy
Sarah Arundel was the illegitimate daughter of Mary Arundel who married John Wilkinson, therefore Mary Wilkinson is the mother-in-law of James. Sarah Arundel is living with John and Mary Wilkinson in 1851 Census (may be he was Sarah's father, or just brought her up as his "daughter")
End of Quote.
Hopefully, I'll know more when the 1942 Edwin C. Hood Will arrives.
Regards Mark
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I assume you have the 1911 census for Edwin. I obviously cant post the details but he is listed as the son-in-law of someone not called Ediss.
Once you review the 1911 you should see where Frank fits in:
01 Jan 1897 Heage, Derbyshire
Frank Tomlinson s/o Benjamin married Annie Shore d/o Joseph Smith Shore.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJL-K8H (Note Occupation)
Added: 10 Jul 1871, Heage, Derbyshire
Joseph Smith Shore 18 s/o Isaac
Alice Elizabeth Ruth Stone 19 d/o John
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I assume you have the 1911 census for Edwin. I obviously cant post the details but he is listed as the son-in-law of someone not called Ediss.
Once you review the 1911 you should see where Frank fits in:
01 Jan 1897 Heage, Derbyshire
Frank Tomlinson s/o Benjamin married Annie Shore d/o Joseph Smith Shore.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJL-K8H (Note Occupation)
Added: 10 Jul 1871, Heage, Derbyshire
Joseph Smith Shore 18 s/o Isaac
Alice Elizabeth Ruth Stone 19 d/o John
Hi
Thank you for this information Jomot.
In 1911, I can see the Shore and Ediss members, along with Mary Hood and Edwin Casson Hood, at Heage Hall, Belper, Derbyshire.
Because this 1911 Census was laid out as original blood family relationships, likely in relation to Joseph Smith Shore, the Head, separating:-
Mary Hood, Daughter, 38, Married under 1 year, born Heage, from her husband
Edwin Casson Hood, Son in Law aged 53, Married under 1 year, born Yorkshire Selby,
but obviously linked by two blue crosses against each Hood.
Also two straight blue marks against Elizabeth Smith Ediss, Daughter, 38 and George Newell Ediss, Son in Law, 52, both married 12 years, although separate from each other in the list.
With earlier Census in b & w, I wonder generally, if other colour marks, are missed by us.
The 1911 Census page signed by Joseph Smith Shore, of Heage Hall, Belper.
I await the Probate with interest, to confirm this Frank Tomlinson ...
"01 Jan 1897 Heage, Derbyshire
Frank Tomlinson s/o Benjamin married Annie Shore d/o Joseph Smith Shore."
but initially, it looks like my suggestion of the possible linkage to an earlier generation, is going nowhere.
Seems Frank Tomlinson baptised 1897 Heage, was retired by 1942 per Probate Register.
I am going to look to see if any documents survive for Heage Hall.
Regards Mark
Reference to Heage and the Shores on page 65 of The Old Halls, Manors and Families of Derbyshire. Volume II. ...
https://archive.org/stream/oldhallsmanorsa02tillgoog
Seems Shore was a Tenant, so possibly any family documents taken by the family, if any.
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Seems Frank Tomlinson baptised 1897 Heage, was retired by 1942 per Probate Register.
His marriage was 1897, he was born 1874. The 1939 shows him already retired but still living in Derbyshire, not far from Edwin.
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Hello All
Thank you Jomot for your reply.
Got another document relating to my Hoods at Selby.
There is a side-ways HOOD relative we've not heard of before (no dob, no age or death date, but an uncommon forename, per Free BMD search from 1837) and who might just go back far enough, to break into my Ancestor's secret world and unravel my family mystery.
Thank you, Mark
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Hello All
Nothing to get too excited about, but many people (Casson of Thorne, George Richardson of Selby and Richardson of Hull and elsewhere) and places previously discussed, including the Proctors and Hutchinsons of Selby!
The Richardsons had even been Tanners at Whitby, also Tanners at Newcastle and a reference to the Cook surname too, well Captain Cook.
Even an Isabel Richardson born 1777 (daughter of Henry and Hannah Richardson of Whitby) who married Henry Casson. Isabel Casson also being a Quaker, dying 1857 aged 80.
The Richardsons were Tanners at Low Light / North Shields Newcastle. John Richardson Proctor (son of Joseph Proctor of North Shields) apparently took over his uncle's works, of William and Henry Richardson, the Low Lights Tannery.
Loads of Marriages listed at the end, including Proctor and Hutchinson of Selby and a George Richardson born Selby, who married in New York.
Records of a Quaker Family: The Richardsons of Cleveland
1889
https://archive.org/stream/recordsofquakerf00boyc#page/n9/mode/2up
Great book, but quite incredibly, absolutely NO reference to any Hood or Hord, not even William Hood who had married Jane Casson.
Perhaps a mention of my George Hood and John Hood of Selby (John Hood married Sarah Richardson of Selby, at Sculcoates, Nr Hull) were only omitted, as neither were Quakers and as Jane Casson did not marry a Richardson, she was also omitted?
Regards Mark
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This info is advisory only.
If assuming George was born illegitimate, and say bastardy orders are missing, then if the father had been ordered to pay a regular set sum of monies through the birth place parish of George -parish administration, who then paid the illegitimate mother. Thus a regular payment to a young lady paid above the normal amount paid out ordinary parish poor folks spasmodic relief payment levels would show up. The quarter sessions order such payments applied to the fathers birth place courts of his county of birth (fathers)
Its most likely the mothers surname is used at baptism but sometimes the child takes the biological fathers surname in later life or if adopted then take the adopted fathers surname.
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The surname Heels in its own right or Steels
or the surname Heels/Hools Heel/Hool corruption to Hoods/Hood ? showing up ;D
Selby 1785 Ann Heels or Steels
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9F6-WX4H?i=1238&cat=729257
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This info is advisory only.
If assuming George was born illegitimate, and say bastardy orders are missing, then if the father had been ordered to pay a regular set sum of monies through the birth place parish of George -parish administration, who then paid the illegitimate mother. Thus a regular payment to a young lady paid above the normal amount paid out ordinary parish poor folks spasmodic relief payment levels would show up. The quarter sessions order such payments applied to the fathers birth place courts of his county of birth (fathers)
Its most likely the mothers surname is used at baptism but sometimes the child takes the biological fathers surname in later life or if adopted then take the adopted fathers surname.
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The surname Heels in its own right or Steels
or the surname Heels/Hools Heel/Hool corruption to Hoods/Hood ? showing up ;D
Selby 1785 Ann Heels or Steels
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9F6-WX4H?i=1238&cat=729257
Hello All
Thanks dobfarm.
Next image after.
1786
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Mar 1st
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To a Letter send.g to Hood on 8th. 1d
EDIT: believed to say "Howdon"
Regards Mark
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1786
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Mar 1st
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To a Letter send.g to Hood on 8th. 1d
I read this as Howden, not Hood :-\
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1786
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Mar 1st
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To a Letter send.g to Hood on 8th. 1d
I read this as Howden, not Hood :-\
Thanks Jomot for 2nd opinion.
Further down ...
15th
To A Letter from Howdon concerng Widow Bickerton 4 1/2 d
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I would not totally rule out 'Ann Heel' as maybe ? an illegitimate mother getting her regular payment of 2 bob ( Shillings) regular suddenly starting 1785 from a father of her child ? (the timing year is the interest in her)
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Unfortunately these Selby ... "Disbursements for the Workhouse &c." only start April 1785 [Im. 1237] to May 1786 (with the May page/s lost).
The pages before 1785, are the Assessments for collecting the money in, it seems.
According to Selby Parish Transcriptions there was a Steel family, so likely Steel and possibly her poor relief, paid along with others. It also gives the numbers above in the [Work]House it seems, too.
William Kennington & Sarah Archer [Im. 1238]
Noticed specific references to the expenses of chasing up Wm Kennington / Wm Honnington the supposed Father of Sarah Archer's Child and a visit to Wentbridge, Swinfl't and Pontefract (Journeys to Pontefr't on same the acc't).
Be interesting if the birth/baptism was recorded at Wentbridge, Pontefract, Swinefleet or elsewhere (as it does not appear in Selby transcriptions) and see what was recorded the other end, if only to get a feel of the procedure.
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Not saying George Hood was illegitimate, as we don't yet know.
Interesting though, thank you.
Regards Mark
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We'll know better when WYAS re opens in Wakefield to check quarter session 1784 to 1788 for any possible illegitimate as George Hood or as a George -------- ? another surname orders on the father for child support payments. ???
Illegitimacy is a strong possibility when all other routes of research are at near exhaustion ! - even Quakers records - bearing in mind George Hood early Selby info is Anglican C of E and he stated born in Yorkshire 1841c and only Hood's in Selby the OAP's John and Jane Hood and Maudland Turner nee Hood by sound of migrants of Scarborough to Selby. Jane Hood nee ??? from ???
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Quarter session records are available on Anc* for Wakefield and Leeds.
I am researching a family in the Ripon/ York / Topcliffe area of Yorkshire. What I have noticed is there are quite a few Hood families in the Topcliffe registers, with a few Georges in the c1780/90 baptism registers. Have these been checked out ?
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Hello All
Thanks Claire and dobfarm.
I do have some Topcliffe Register images downloaded (from Ancestry), Claire these were not easy to follow at the time, one of the Parish Registers appears to be a copy of another.
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Staff Sgt George Hood of Leeds who also died in September 1845 (just before my George H), Staff Sgt Hood was born Burniston near Bedle [Bedale?]
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728347.24
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Also the 1835 Will Bundle of George Hood scanned.
The 1835 Kirby Hill Probate Bundle of George Hood the Elder of Milby, in the County of York, Innkeeper who died 13th March 1835 ...
Children were:-
George Hood [likely 29 November 1789 Kirby Hill by Boroughbridge. 1851 Langthorpe Census aged 60 farmer with 69 acres born Milby, Yorks]
Ralph Hood [likely 28 June 1792 Kirby Hill by Boroughbridge. 1851 Langthorpe Census aged 60 Inn keeper Ship Inn, born Milby, Yorks. NOTE - "Ship Inn" appears to have been added to Innkeeper, with a line to a lower entry for Joseph Green and John Green Timber Merchants sons, where the words "at home" are added.]
Mary Batty [nee Mary Hood likely 4 July 1800 Kirby Hill by Boroughbridge]
Rachel Wrigglesworth [nee Rachel Hood 9 February 1803 Kirby Hill by Boroughbridge]
Thomas Hood [24 December 1805 Kirby Hill by Boroughbridge]
James Atkinson of Rockcliffe owed a 'Certain debt' of £150 to George Hood.
George Hood the Elder and son Ralph also had a "Lighter".
The information posted to help others and information in square brackets is not in the actual Will, but taken from the 1992 IGI surname HOOD Yorkshire microfiche (unchecked in Registers). The two 1851 Census page images have been viewed.
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The other George Hood appears to be the one at Langthorp (Boroughbridge) in 1851 Census.
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Seems the one who died c.1835 may have previously been the same George Hood, as "Mr Hood's Grantham Arms" Boroughbridge (Nr Aldborough), but Will refers to another pub., and a newspaper search suggests Hood was at the Grantham Arms well into the 1820s. Seems he was a horse trainer owning horses.
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Got some Wills transcribed from the Borthwick ...
Crude summaries of two Hood Wills of Baldersby / Topcliffe
Will of John Hood of Baldersby 1794 (proved Topcliffe) my dear wife Elizabeth ... real estate situate within the township of Crake hall ... now in the possession of my son William Hood or his assigns ... my brother in Law William Wright of Baldersby ... my daughter Ann the wife of Thomas Cooper ... Annuity out of my said real Estate at Crakehall aforesaid upon trust ... payments ... my said daughter Ann ... to be paid and equally divided amongst all the children of my said Daughter Ann ... I give and devise unto my son William Hood All that my estate situate within the Township of Crake Hall aforesaid as the same is now in his possession ... my said son John shall continue Tenant to the Farm he now rents under his Grace the Duke of Devonshire at Baldersby aforesaid ... Load of coals from Ulierley Pitts ... son in Law Thomas Cooper ... Daughter Ann Cooper his wife ... 3 December 1792 ... Seal April 1794
Will of John Hood of Baldersby October 1814 Topcliffe
I John Hood of Baldersby in the Parish of Topcliffe in the County of York Gentleman ... my dear wife Ruth Hood the Tenant right of my farm ... I give to my daughter Mary the wife of William Morley of the City of London ... £250 ... ref to my present farm at Baldersby ... Estate at Aisenby in the Parish of Topcliffe ... various references to changes in the Will, if remarriage occurs In trust for my three daughters Mary Elizabeth and Ann share and share alike ... at the age of 21 years ... Mary now wife of William Morley she (having already attained the age of twenty one ... John Dale of Skelton Gentleman mentioned William Wright of Baldersby aforesaid Gentleman ... 15 July 1811
Witnesses Jno Coates, Willm Spence, George Christian Clarke pass'd 5 October 1814
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I ordered and paid for the "George Hood" Boroughbridge/Aldborough and Ripon Deed Registration searches AND copies from Wakefield, but they cancelled my order, as they were closing a week later, really they ought to have honoured my order, because it was placed a week before the cut-off date for ordering.
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Not sure if Geo Hood September 1845 burials were checked at Ripon, as it seems more were/are being added on FindMyPast.
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Placing this link here so that I don't lose it (Scottish Tax images), not related to above ...
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/transcriptions/search/%22George%20Hood%22
Regards Mark
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Staff Sgt George Hood of Leeds who also died in September 1845 (just before my George H), Staff Sgt Hood was born Bedale.
If I remember last year when I researched this particular GH,I found from his Chelsea Pensioner records he was born in Burniston, Scarborough
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From Ancestry website Apprentice indenture Thorne
Mordecai Casson master
Apprentice John Cockin 28 July 1796
Mordecai Hood Casson
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Thorne/Thorne34Dry.html
Thorne 1834 trade directory
Miscellaneous
Casson Mordecai Hood, currier,Silver st
Also spelt Hord see linked post ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.msg6175319#msg6175319
Seems Eliza Hord is possiby related to the Married couple or Procters, also some Proctors listed as relatives at the Thorne wedding.
Regards Mark
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Hello All
Claire, it seems a Casson Coat of Arms (Ancestry) has 1840 Pannal Hall.
Pannal Hall is near Harrogate but was the Seat of the Bentley family!
A Bentley Will trancsript
http://www.harrogatepeopleandplaces.info/wills/r/033.htm
An unverified internet source suggests a Casson may have owned a residence called Wescoe Hall, later called Pannal House?
I also see information in respect of an Edwin Casson a Surgeon of Bradford, later of Pannal. Might be worth checking 19th Century Census?
No family makes claims and then allows original source paperwork to disappear!
Regards Mark
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This particular Edwin Casson was born in Sheffield in 1806 father Benjamin Casson (Gentleman). He married Ann Inkersley in Bradford in 1838
1851 living at Church Hill House Bradford
1861 Blakehill House Eccleshill (Bradford)
died 1863 probate of Pannal House, Pannal
Link to family history of Pannal Hall
http://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/family-s-sad-farewell-to-pannal-hall-1-2650011
and something on Westcoe Hall
http://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/pannal-area-n-ews-1-2651740
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Thanks Goughy
I've checked the 1863 Probate Register now and Edwin Casson formerly of Bradford Surgeon and Apothecary deceased was late of "Pannal House", Pannal, both in the County of York.
This confirms Edwin Casson was not of Pannal Hall, which was the family Seat of the Bentleys.
I am interested in separating fact from fiction.
Regards Mark
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Hello
My four times Gt. Grandfather was George Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, England, who married Sarah Russel at Selby in July 1815. They had five sons and three daughters baptised at Selby.
Their son William Hood married Jane Casson at Scarborough in December 1851 and was known as Jane Hood and Jane Casson Hood, of Wren Lane, Selby, laterly Byefield alias Byfield, Selby and Brayton, Yorkshire, according to our Hood Family papers and that both were understood to be buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby, Yorkshire, England, UK.
They had three children Edwin Hood, Marion Hood (who became the wife of George Scaum of Pontefract, called Marion Scaum) and Beatrice Hood.
I understand Jane Casson Hood held family papers in the 1880s, which are still held by a Casson family member in the USA.
I would be most grateful please, if your family papers shed any light on William Hood's father, known as 'George Hood of Selby' in 1815, or even, where George Hood was buried when he died at Selby 18th September 1845?
I attach something, we have in our Family Papers, which survive.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to reply? Thank you.
Kind regards, Mark Hood
William Hood X Jane Casson had another son Alfred William Hood born 1855 Selby
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1869 Alfred William Hood is at Ackworth Quaker boarding school 1869
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rhw4AAAAMAAJ&q=sarah+hood+selby&dq=sarah+hood+selby&hl=en&sa=X&redir_e;sc=y
1870 Father William Hood died 1870 Selby aged 54
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1886 Alfred William Hood X Edith Scaum married Selby
1891 Alfred William Hood X Edith Hood (nee Scaum) are in Latchford (Port), Lancashire/Cheshire boarder
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Hello
If the witness to the marriage below is our ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD, then the COOKE getting married here and also the COOKE Father and witness, might be descendants of the Cook, I have been looking for?
1891 Census. Civil Parish of Latchford in the Borough of Warrington
Alfred W. Hood, Head, M, age 36, Grocer, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Edith Hood, Wife, M, age 24, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Reginald G. Hood, Son, - , age 3, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Alfred W. Hood, Son, - , age 1, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Mary E. Houghton, Serv; S, age 15, Gen'l Domestic Serv; born Cheshire, Latchford.
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
Mark
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Hi,
I haven't got online access to this marriage entry but can give a bit of background on the Cooke family.
Charles Cooke was born in Cleasby Yorkshire. His parents were Matthew Parkinson Cook and Mary Spedding.
Matthew Parkinson Cooke was a schoolmaster as was Charles his son.
Mathew P Cooke was born c1801 Jamaica ( as per 1851 census)
Claire
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Wonder if this is our Cooke family - another site seems to suggest so
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146634974
Claire
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Hello
If the witness to the marriage below is our ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD, then the COOKE getting married here and also the COOKE Father and witness, might be descendants of the Cook, I have been looking for?
1891 Census. Civil Parish of Latchford in the Borough of Warrrington
Alfred W. Hood, Head, M, age 36, Grocer, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Edith Hood, Wife, M, age 24, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Reginald G. Hood, Son, - , age 3, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Alfred W. Hood, Son, - , age 1, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Mary E. Houghton, Serv; S, age 15, Gen'l Domestic Serv; born Cheshire, Latchford.
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
Mark
Hello
I have a later document of Alfred William Hood of Selby.
The Mother of Fannie Adolphine COOKE was a HOMBOURG (alias HOMBURG Register Index)
But it is COOKE of interest.
Interesting, an Alfred William Hood being a witness at the Wedding?
Whilst at Leeds, I saw the letter sent by government, headed Whitehall, London, authorising that after the death of Jane Hood of Selby that her body was to receive special authority to be buried in the Selby Quaker Burial Ground, due to it having been closed.
Mark
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Hi,
I haven't got online access to this marriage entry but can give a bit of background on the Cooke family.
Charles Cooke was born in Cleasby Yorkshire. His parents were Matthew Parkinson Cook and Mary Spedding.
Matthew Parkinson Cooke was a schoolmaster as was Charles his son.
Mathew P Cooke was born c1801 Jamaica ( as per 1851 census)
Claire
Hello
Thanks Claire.
I have put more notes about John Hood of York, late of Jamaica, dying at Heworth in the County of York, here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781212.msg6415518#msg6415518
John Atkinson - Robert Pearson - John Wallis, have witnessed the Will.
Mark
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Hi,
I haven't got online access to this marriage entry but can give a bit of background on the Cooke family.
Charles Cooke was born in Cleasby Yorkshire. His parents were Matthew Parkinson Cook and Mary Spedding.
Matthew Parkinson Cooke was a schoolmaster as was Charles his son.
Mathew P Cooke was born c1801 Jamaica ( as per 1851 census)
Claire
Cheshire Archives
PR copies £1.75
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=P+294%2fR%2f1&pos=2
http://archivedatabases.cheshire.gov.uk/RecordOfficeCopyOrder/OrderParishRegisterEntry.aspx?ocid=1000
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
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Good Morning
Thank you Claire and dobfarm.
1871 (RG10/3970) Barton upon Irwell Census, gives Charles COOK born at Gilling, Yorkshire.
Charles COOK, Head, Mar, age 31, Schoolmaster, born Yorkshire, Gilling.
Adolphine Maria Frederik COOK, Wife, Mar, age 31, born Paris, Naturalist. [Naturalised]
[ ? ] George COOK, Son, age 27, born Lancashire, Warrington
Emely Adliaide COOK, Daur, age 8, Scholes, born Cheshire, Wilderspool.
Emelia Adalaiad COOK, Daur, age 5, Scholes, born Cheshire, Wilderspool.
Adeliaid COOK, Daur, age 4, Scholes, Cheshire, Cadishead.
Voilet Amice COOK, Daur, age 1, Cheshire, Cadishead.
Fannia Adelphin COOK, Daur, 1 month, Devonshire, Newport.
10 years later Fannie A. L. COOK, aged 10, was born Cadishead.
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Also spelt Adelaide and a Beatrice to this COOKE = HOMBOURG couple 10 years later.
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Hood of Selby
Beatrice Hood and
Adelina Hood born Selby 1855, alias Adeline Hood.
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Gilling, Yorkshire, is one of my Yorkshire HOOD places, I had listed, when I did the Hood clusters, about 2 years ago.
Mark
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1862 Marriage solemnized at the Cath. & Parish Church Parish of Manchester County of Lancaster
24th June 1862
Charles COOKE, age 22, Bachelor, Schoolmaster, Residence Warrington County of Lancaster, Father Matthew Parkinson Cooke, Gentleman.
Adolphine HOMBOURG, age 22, Spinster, Residence Great Ducie Street Strangeways, Father Charles Hombourg, Artist.
By Licence.
Signed
Charles Cooke
Adolphine Hombourg
By W. W. Johnson, Chaplain
Witnesses
Arele Hombourg
[D." Kraitger Rassalrts??] French Consul in Manchester.
Ed Blacke French N. Consul in Belfast.
E. Cooke Elisa Blacke Elizabeth Atcheson
Cath. / Cathedral
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Hi
I can see Adel Hombourg aged 45 in the 1861 census BORN Germany at Cheetham with Keraetzer Rassaerta (Dr of Arts, French Consul) born Mayence Germany. Relationship between the pair 'cousins'.
Adel died in Manchester in the late 1860's.
What I find interesting is that throughout the census Adolphine was born in France or Paris, yet I think she was baptised in Baden Germany.
Adolphine Marie Frederike Hamburg born 28 July 1843 baptised 12 August 1843
Parents: Gustav Karl* Hamburg and Adolfride.
Adolphine's father was called CHARLES - a name that was derived from the Germanic name Karl.
Speaking of names Clarisse Cooke was born the same year as Clara Edith ( from the census) so I'm assuming they are one and the same person.
You also have a Clara in your family ( born 1854 Selby) , and Alfred W Hoods wife was an Edith .
Claire
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Speaking of names Clarisse Cooke was born the same year as Clara Edith ( from the census) so I'm assuming they are one and the same person.
You also have a Clara in your family ( born 1854 Selby) , and Alfred W Hoods wife was an Edith.
Hello
Thanks Claire and dobfarm for the ordering info.
Yes, a few HOOD naming similarities, but in our HOOD line we actually have a HOOD EDITH Mary and a HOOD CLARA, plus other ...
Hood of Selby lines:-
Mary Beatrice Hood and Beatrice Mary Hood
Adelina Hood born Selby 1855, alias Adeline Hood, similar to Adelaide.
The last Cheshire Record Office photocopy marriage took about a week.
I hope to eventually find, the missing William Hood of Selby in the 1841 Census.
Preston Chronicle and Lancashire Advertiser, 16th January 1875
On the 9th inst., at 15 Queen's Square, Blackpool, Mr. Matthew Parkinson Cooke, aged 68.
Mark
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Matthew Parkinson COOKE of Cleasby
I don't know if these COOKEs are Quakers or not?
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Cleasby and Quaker Connections
Been digging into the place called Cleasby, North Riding of Yorkshire.
In 1894 the Lord of the Manor of Cleasby was Theodore FRY Esq., of Woodburn in the Parish of Blackwell, County of Durham. Source London Gazette (regarding him being granted the dignity of a Baronet).
There is a claim on a website about Bristol that John Pease purchased the Manor of Cleasby. The sum was reputed to be £36,500 in 1829.
I recall as a boy my late Grandmother discussing FRY and whether they were Quakers or not, along with other household names.
In this 600 page book about Quaker businessmen, John Pease (1797 - 1868) born Darlington 1797, woollen manufacturer, died at Cleveland Lodge, Gt Ayton, [where the Procters of Selby owned part of the Manor]. John Pease married Sophia Jowitt and one of the Daughters married Theodore Fry (1836 - 1912) of Darlington.
So this must have been how the Lordship of the Manor of Cleasby changed hands from Pease to Theodore Fry.
I haven't got used to how the Author has set out his extensive work (took over 10 years), but seems one or the other Daughter has married Jonathan Backhouse Hodgkin (1843 - 1926) of Darlington, Banker.
We have come across a Jonathan Backhouse, Banker, before.
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Anyway, going back to Joseph FRY the Chocolate manufacturer, the Quaker FRYs had links with Bristol, where our other Not in Membership William HOOD, Corn Factor and Merchant, was buried in 1821 by the Quakers.
Joseph Pease (1772 - 1846) woollen manufacturer, was in the anti-slavery movement, campaigning for the reform of the East India Company, he died at his home in 1846.
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So were Charles COOKE born Gilling Yorkshire and Matthew Parkinson COOKE of Cleasby Quakers?
Because the Manor of Cleasby seems to be held, or owned by Quaker individuals.
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I am wondering if "Not in Membership" Quaker burial went much further than relations of Quakers, something else I couldn't find in those Quaker York Minutes Volumes.
I am left with a question in my mind that can't be answered, as to why the Quakers took care of burying George Hood, his Wife Sarah and four of their unmarried adult children, all Non Members.
George could afford to have himself and them buried in York in the newish General Cemetery Company cemetery.
Mark
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Hello
This Matthew Parkinson COOKE is a challenge, because he was adopted by Matthew Parkinson of Westmoreland, Jamaica.
[Matthew Parkinson] Resident slave-owner in Westmoreland Jamaica, son of John Parkinson of Norton near Stockton. Nephew of Ralph Parkinson and Leonard Parkinson senior.
Interesting site, although I shudder to see a John Hood listed as having 5 "slaves" about 1827.
http://www.jamaicanfamilysearch.com/Members/a1827al03.htm
Mark
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Hello
Regarding Matthew Parkinson COOKE (adopted by Matthew Parkinson) later of Poulton le Fylde, Lancashire / Preston Chronicle and Lancashire Advertiser, 16th January 1875
On the 9th inst., at 15 Queen's Square, Blackpool, Mr. Matthew Parkinson Cooke, aged 68.
"Matthew Parkinson COOKE a quadroon Child " Baptised 17 December 1812, Westmoreland, Jamaica, living part of his life at Cleasby, Yorkshire.
Where was Matthew Parkinson COOKE buried, please?
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http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/parkinson/1072/
Father of Matthew Parkinson was John PARKINSON of Norton near Stockton.
In the newspapers, I can only find 'Parkinson of Stockton' a Master of a vessel.
1838
REDCAR, Nov. 27.-The Liberia, Parkinson, of Stockton, ran on the rocks off this place this morning, but was assisted off, and is now in tow of two steamers, for the Tees.
Mark
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Hello
If the witness to the marriage below is our ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD, then the COOKE getting married here and also the COOKE Father and witness, might be descendants of the Cook, I have been looking for?
1891 Census. Civil Parish of Latchford in the Borough of Warrrington
Alfred W. Hood, Head, M, age 36, Grocer, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Edith Hood, Wife, M, age 24, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Reginald G. Hood, Son, - , age 3, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Alfred W. Hood, Son, - , age 1, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Mary E. Houghton, Serv; S, age 15, Gen'l Domestic Serv; born Cheshire, Latchford.
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
Mark
Hello
I have a later document of Alfred William Hood of Selby.
The Mother of Fannie Adolphine COOKE was a HOMBOURG (alias HOMBURG Register Index)
But it is COOKE of interest.
Interesting, an Alfred William Hood being a witness at the Wedding?
Whilst at Leeds, I saw the letter sent by government, headed Whitehall, London, authorising that after the death of Jane Hood of Selby that her body was to receive special authority to be buried in the Selby Quaker Burial Ground, due to it having been closed.
Mark
Hello
Probable COOKE & LISTER link.
When Fanny Adolphine COOKE (Mother Hombourg / Homburg) died aged 69 in 1939, Wife of Colin Sims, her name was stated as:-
Fanny Adolphine Lister SIMS of South Manchester (dying 1939), Probate Index.
Also in 1881 Census as:- Fannie A. L. COOKE.
Fannie [Adolphine LISTER] COOKE.
Looks like there was a LISTER in the COOKE linage / side?
Because her Brother was called Frederick George Kraetzer COOKE at birth in 1863 (Mother Hombourg), District Warrington.
KRAETZER coming from the Hombourg side.
Hi
I can see Adel Hombourg aged 45 in the 1861 census BORN Germany at Cheetham with Keraetzer Rassaerta (Dr of Arts, French Consul) born Mayence Germany. Relationship between the pair 'cousins'.
Adel died in Manchester in the late 1860's.
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Somewhere in this Matthew Parkinson COOKE family, there must be a LISTER?
Mark
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Hello
I have been trying to trace all the child Births of Charles COOKE and Adolphine HOMBOURG
1863 Frederick George Hamlet Kraetzer COOKE (Hombourg) District - Warrington.
1864 Charles Frank Parkinson COOKE (Hornbourg) District - Warrington. BURIED 20 Oct 1864.
1865 Amelia Adelaide Louisa COOKE (Hombourg) District - Runcorn. [Census, born Wilderspool]
1867 Adelaide Theresa COOKE (Hornbourg) District - Runcorn.
1868 - COOKE (Hombourg) District - Runcorn.
1869 Violet Annie COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell. [Census, born Cadishead]
1870 Fanny Adolphine Lister COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1872 Adelaide Therese COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1873 Clara Edith COOKE (Hamburg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1876 Adolphine Marie Frederika COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1877 Matthew Parkinson COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1879 Mary COOKE (Hombourg) District - Barton upon Irwell.
1880 Beatrice Minnie COOKE (Hombourgh) District - Barton upon Irwell.
13 children in total found.
Many of the female first names are linked to Royal Families ...
Amelia Adelaide Louise Theresa appear in the Saxe-Meiningen
Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg Gotha
Mark
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Hi
Another child
Harry COOKE mmn - Homburg. Birth registered FYLDE (visiting family perhaps) June Qtr. 1883
Claire
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Thanks
Because Matthew Parkinson Cooke in Jamaica seems a dead-end.
I wondered if LISTER would give us this COOKE family somewhere?
COOKE = LISTER Marriages
John COOKE & Rebecca LISTER 25 July 1826 or 1827 North Luffenham.
Henry COOK & Sarah LISTER 1st April 1827 Whickham, Durham.
Thomas COOKE & Elizabeth LISTER 20th May 1828 Sculcoates.
Peter LISTER & Sarah COOK 16 June 1828 Worksop, Nottinghamshire.
A later one ...
Wm LISTER & Rebecca COOK 25 August 1862, Gt. Grimsby, Lincoln.
Mark
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This is the only Cook/Lister marriage in the time frame when this family were living - in Yorkshire
Thomas Cook a bricklayer and Bachelor, of the parish and Ann Lister spinster of the parish
Witnesses: John Braebure ? ? and John Thomas Winship.
Can give no other info on the Wickham marriage
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Hello
If the witness to the marriage below is our ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD, then the COOKE getting married here and also the COOKE Father and witness, might be descendants of the Cook, I have been looking for?
1891 Census. Civil Parish of Latchford in the Borough of Warrington
Alfred W. Hood, Head, M, age 36, Grocer, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Edith Hood, Wife, M, age 24, born Yorkshire, Selby.
Reginald G. Hood, Son, - , age 3, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Alfred W. Hood, Son, - , age 1, born Cheshire, Latchford.
Mary E. Houghton, Serv; S, age 15, Gen'l Domestic Serv; born Cheshire, Latchford.
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
Mark
Hello
SIMS / SIM Side of the Above Marriage
I am looking into John Sim and his Wife Charlotte (nee Sharrock). John Sim was the Father of Colin Sims, above, (on FamilySearch etc.)
NOTES: Bedford, Pennington and Westleigh were merged to form the town of LEIGH, so some Census for the birthplaces have either Bedford, Lancashire OR Leigh, Lancashire.
1861 Census Deakins Lea, Bedford, Lancashire. Registration District Leigh.
John Sims, Head, Marr, 30, Iron Moulder, Born Bamber Bridge, Lancashire. [Bamber Bridge near Preston].
Charlotte Sims, Wife, Marr, 28, House Keeper, Born NOT KNOWN!.
Catharine Sims, Dau, age 7, Born Bedford, Lancashire.
John Sims, Son, age 6, Born Bedford, Lancashire.
Ann [Eliza] Sims, Dau, age 4, Born Bedford, Lancashire.
Sydney Sims, Son, age 1, Born Salford, Lancashire.
From a sample of births in the GRO Births Index - Wife and Mother is SHARROCK
Catharine Sims (Mother Sharrock) Birth Leigh 1853.
John Marshall Sims (Mother Sharrock) Birth Leigh 1855. ADDED
Ann Eliza Sims (Mother Sharrock) Birth Leigh 1857.
Sydney Sims (Mother Sharrocks) Birth Salford 1860.
Colin Sims (Mother Sharrock) Birth Leigh 1862.
Marriage 1852 (Not seen image)
John SIM and Charlotte SHARROCK
29 March 1852 St Stephen, Salford, Lancashire.
John Sim - Single, Father John SIM.
Charlotte - Single, Father Jeremiah SHARROCK.
Mark
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Regarding John Marshall Sims, the 1901 and 1911 Census have him listed as a Retired Builder.
According to this Gazette Notice of 1898
John Marshall SIMS and Edwin PARKINSON carrying on business as Brickmakers at Butts Brick Yard Chapel- street Bedford within Leigh in the county of Lancaster under the style or firm of Sims and Parkinson has been dissolved by mutual consent ...
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Colin SIMS - Trained at Wesleyan College.
Regarding Schofield and Sims, their website says that Colin Sims went away to the first Wesleyan College at Westminster in the early 1880s.
https://www.schofieldandsims.co.uk/company-history/
On qualifying as a teacher, Sims returned to Lancashire where his talents quickly blossomed. He excelled as a teacher and by 1884 was headmaster of the Bedford Wesleyan Church School in Leigh.
1881 Census - St George Hanover Square, St Margaret and St John the Evangelist Westminster, London Middlesex.
Collin Sims, Boarder, Single, 18, Student, Born Leigh, Lancashire.
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I can't wait for the 1892 Colin SIMS & Fanny Adolphine Lister COOKE 1892 Wedding Register entry to arrive to compare signatures, fairly certain that will be Alfred William Hood of Selby.
Mark
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Interesting and may help other future researchers ??? who have these surnames in their trees (nothing lost in posting info ), but how does these surnames ? some 30 to 100 ish years later through down stream marriages help to establish who was George Hood born 1783 to 1789 in finding his origins ??? as most married couples meet independently through chance meeting.
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Hi,
I haven't got online access to this marriage entry but can give a bit of background on the Cooke family.
Charles Cooke was born in Cleasby Yorkshire. His parents were Matthew Parkinson Cook and Mary Spedding.
Matthew Parkinson Cooke was a schoolmaster as was Charles his son.
Mathew P Cooke was born c1801 Jamaica ( as per 1851 census)
Claire
Cheshire Archives
PR copies £1.75
http://archive.cheshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=P+294%2fR%2f1&pos=2
http://archivedatabases.cheshire.gov.uk/RecordOfficeCopyOrder/OrderParishRegisterEntry.aspx?ocid=1000
Marriage
Possibly ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD was a Witness at this 1892 COOKE Wedding at WARRINGTON ...
Marriage: 20 Aug 1892 Holy Trinity, WARRINGTON, Lancs.
Colin SIMS - 30, Schoolmaster, Bachelor, 145 Chapel St. Leigh
Fannie Adolphine COOKE - 21, Spinster, 50 Parker St. Warrington
Groom's Father: John Sims, Moulder
Bride's Father: Charles COOKE, Schoolmaster
Witness: ALFRED WILLIAM HOOD; Clarisse COOKE
Married by Licence by: W. E. Glenn
Register: Marriages 1870 - 1901, Page 130, Entry 259
Source: LDS Film 2068606/7
Hello
Thanks dobfarm for your comment.
I am NOT satisfied that the signature of Alfred Wm Hood born Selby who was living Latchford, Warrington at the time, is the same as the Alfred William Hood witness signature on the abovementioned 1892 Warrington Wedding (clear original Register copy received).
Comparing the first two names, these appear to be written by a different hand and also the forming of the letter H in the two Hood surnames, is very distinctly different.
Possibly two Alfred William Hoods at Warrington in the 1890s, or one visiting for the wedding.
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Interesting though, as my line from George Hood of Selby, had also been through Manchester and Cheshire.
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New Development
I'm not holding out too much hope, but at some point, the Headstones in the Selby Quaker Burial Ground were recorded and these were deposited and then I understand subsequently transferred.
I am hoping they were recorded more than 50 to 100 years ago, because I hear that by the 1970s the Selby Quaker Burial Ground had already been vandalised.
When I receive the replies, I'll let you know, as there may be a benefit to others who have dead ancestors buried in Yorkshire Quaker Burial sites, which have been vandalised or disappeared.
Mark
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In 1910, the Son of William Hood of Selby (Wm Hood bapt 1816), Edwin Casson Hood married Mary Ediss and in 1911 the couple are living with a Joseph Smith Shore of Heage Hall, Derbyshire (aged 57, Miller & Farmer, born Heage).
I wonder if Joseph Smith Shore, a Tenant of Heage Hall (1911), was related to Samuel Shore of Norton Hall, Derbyshire?
Edwin Casson Hood's house was at Ambergate.
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(1) Samuel Shore of Norton Hall, Derbyshire, Esq., and Joseph Paice of London, merchant, surviving devisees in trust and executors named in the will of Richard Sherbrooke late of par. St. Sepulchre, London, esq., deceased.
(2) Mary Wilkes, wife of John Wilkes of the City of Westminster, esq., niece and devisee and legatee in the will of the said Richard Sherbrooke.
(3) William Hood of Chancery Lane, esq.
(4) John Hood of Lawrence Poultney Hill, London, gent.
Quotes will of Richard Sherbrooke
Assignment by John Hood to Samuel Shore, Joseph Paice, and William Hood of all the goods, chattels and personal estate which were assigned to him by this indenture, upon the trusts in Richard Sherbrooke's will.
1 April 1784.
Sig. and seal.
These Hoods (linked to Samuel Shore above) are of Bardon Park and Chapel, Leicestershire, Horeston, Warwickshire and elsewhere.
On their published (part) Family Tree (pdf attached) is a Thomas, Henry, George that has not been completed, or may have died off.
Mark
I assume you have the 1911 census for Edwin. I obviously cant post the details but he is listed as the son-in-law of someone not called Ediss.
Once you review the 1911 you should see where Frank fits in:
01 Jan 1897 Heage, Derbyshire
Frank Tomlinson s/o Benjamin married Annie Shore d/o Joseph Smith Shore.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJL-K8H (Note Occupation)
Added: 10 Jul 1871, Heage, Derbyshire
Joseph Smith Shore 18 s/o Isaac
Alice Elizabeth Ruth Stone 19 d/o John
Hi
Thank you for this information Jomot.
In 1911, I can see the Shore and Ediss members, along with Mary Hood and Edwin Casson Hood, at Heage Hall, Belper, Derbyshire.
Because this 1911 Census was laid out as original blood family relationships, likely in relation to Joseph Smith Shore, the Head, separating:-
Mary Hood, Daughter, 38, Married under 1 year, born Heage, from her husband
Edwin Casson Hood, Son in Law aged 53, Married under 1 year, born Yorkshire Selby,
but obviously linked by two blue crosses against each Hood.
Also two straight blue marks against Elizabeth Smith Ediss, Daughter, 38 and George Newell Ediss, Son in Law, 52, both married 12 years, although separate from each other in the list.
With earlier Census in b & w, I wonder generally, if other colour marks, are missed by us.
The 1911 Census page signed by Joseph Smith Shore, of Heage Hall, Belper.
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Regards Mark
Reference to Heage and the Shores on page 65 of The Old Halls, Manors and Families of Derbyshire. Volume II. ...
https://archive.org/stream/oldhallsmanorsa02tillgoog
Seems Shore was a Tenant, so possibly any family documents taken by the family, if any.
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Although, I cannot quite link to Frank Tomlinson, retired, yet (in the 1942 Probate), an Elizabeth Hood born/bapt Knottingley married an Alfred Tomlinson in 1857.
Some of these Tomlinsons also went to the USA.
I am one of those Tomlinson's in the USA. First time on this (or any similar site) so I don't know the protocols, but if you want information on Elizabeth and Alfred there is quite a bit at https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LT2Z-DT5
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Attached are a three interesting sources about Jane Casson Hood of Selby from a quick query on familysearch.org
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Although, I cannot quite link to Frank Tomlinson, retired, yet (in the 1942 Probate), an Elizabeth Hood born/bapt Knottingley married an Alfred Tomlinson in 1857.
Some of these Tomlinsons also went to the USA.
I am one of those Tomlinson's in the USA. First time on this (or any similar site) so I don't know the protocols, but if you want information on Elizabeth and Alfred there is quite a bit at https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LT2Z-DT5
Hello Ryan
Thank you for getting in touch.
It was suggested that your Tomlinson link to Hood at Knottingley, did not link to the Tomlinson that my Hoods at Selby later rubbed shoulders with.
Somebody on anc has linked Hood of Knottingley to Scarborough, probably incorrectly.
Because, had they looked at an earlier 18th Century John Hood, Pontefract marriage they would find a matching witness surname of Leak. The jump to Scarborough makes no sense.
Mark
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You know its sometimes good to stand back and have a general view of your basic info.
George Hood was buried first and later his wife in the Quaker burial ground Selby Yorkshire, though his children in later life through marriage got involved in the Quaker movement and relatives. 2 basic questions - why did George Hood want to be buried in a Quaker buiral ground, thus was he brought up a Quaker in his beliefs that differ from the Anglican or Catholic as to after life or other reasons.
Did George give up his religion as a Quaker to marry in a Anglican church to his wife Rachel or the Quakers disowned him after the marriage.
Thus maybe looking at your Quaker info that seems more related to George himself (more earlier times ie: 1815 to say 1830) than his children or their in laws - thus turn to a Quaker record of his birth - but where = In Yorkshire as 1851 census
Just an after thought.
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I can't wait for the 1892 Colin SIMS & Fanny Adolphine Lister COOKE 1892 Wedding Register entry to arrive to compare signatures, fairly certain that will be Alfred William Hood of Selby.
Mark
Hello
Despite what I said on this thread, there was a very good Alfred William Hood (witness) signature match on the marriage (in the quote) to the Alfred William Hood and Edith Scaum, 1886 marriage at Brayton, Selby, Yorkshire.
Good to hear from you dobfarm. I can only think George Hood's Father was caught up with Nonconformism, or George was illegitimate to someome who maintained him, so no claim on Church Dole.
My George Hood (married Selby, Yorkshire 1815) certainly left problems, using document research a link to 4 different Hoods can be suggested.
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One of the females in my direct line, married a George Taylor in 1910 and I have her Birth Certificate, their Marriage Certificate and his date of Birth.
Using 2 subscription sites & FS, tried various searches and recently George Taylor's lineage.
Ordered and awaiting 2 Birth and 2 Marriage Certificate copies to confirm Census trail and see who was present (signed) at the marriages.
Surnames (Present / witness) at the earliest 1833 John Taylor & Harriet Huddleston, marriage at Nafferton, Yorkshire:- George DANBY and Samuel HARRISON. At Harriet Huddleston's Father's marriage was a George DUNN.
John Taylor (born Octon, 1803) and Harriet's, Son, George Taylor (born 1838, Weaverthorpe, Yorks) was then a Visitor in Robert ANDERSON's household and his wife was nee Jane DANBY, born Gransmoor.
At this householder's 1848 Marriage was a Mary Thomasin LEADLEY and William Lamplugh.
[In 1808 at Kilham, Jane Lamplugh married Richard DANBY of Foston, Yorkshire].
In 1850 Mary Thomasin LEADLEY married Henry Walker, at Scarborough and was the Daughter of Lieut. Robert LEADLEY, Royal Navy.
Previously, Robert Leadley of Kilham, Gentleman, had married Mary Higg, Widow, at Scarborough 1823 and Mary Higg was transcribed as the Daughter of Robert & Thomasin Southerland.
Looking forward to receiving 2 marriage TAYLOR print copies 1861 and 1883.
In the past years, all Register images were saved on pc, as name searchable.
Some very familiar surnames above (I'd now forgotten during my HOOD searches), when pc searched.
Mark
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1887 - Banns - Hensall cum Heck and Castleford (no church given)
Charles Hood, widower of Castleford and Hannah Richardson, spinster of Heck read 11, 18, 25 September
Selby - 6 December 1855
George Hood, 32, bachelor, farmer. Father: George, Brewer
Ann Marrison, 28, spinster. Father William, stone mason.
1868
Reuben Knott and Ann Hood.
1871 Charles Hood, aged 12 is living with Reuben Knott and Ann
The 1868 Hull Daily News
Reuben Knott, Tea Dealer, married Mrs Ann Hood [nee Marrison of Blyth, Notts], at the Selby Wesleyan Methodist Chapel.
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1846 Death Duty Register entries (with added notes 1846 to 1894) received large colour image (2 pages) for George Hood of Selby, died 1845, (TNA, IR 26/1740)
Interesting, but all named are already known.
Road names of Property situations.
Children dec'd without issue and those beneficiaries in 1845, with notes up to Jane C. Hood, d. 1894, are named.
A few of the added notes say:-
Widow, no Dower, left household furniture for one house and living in the house at Gowthorpe value £800.
Ex'r of Wm, Mrs Jane Hood (dead)
Byefield Lodge, Selby (widow)
John Casson (Dead)
Tea Dealer, York.
Jane Casson Hood d.1894 (presumed same as said Jane Hood).
Ex'r Edwin C. Hood of Wellington Tce, Belper (Grocer).
Marion Scaum and George Scaum of the Railway Hotel, Knottingley. Marion Scaum Extrix of her mother J. C. Hood d.1894.
The year, the seller and sale amounts for properties.
Mark
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Selby Times, 26th April 1895
Marriage of Mr T. S. Ullathorne of Selby.- St Botolph's Church, Knottingley,
... the scene of a very pretty wedding, the marriage of Mr. Councillor Ullathorne, of Selby, with Miss Mary Beatrice Hood, youngest daughter of the late Mr. Wm. Hood, of Selby, being solemnised there in the presence of a numerous company of the friends of both contracting parties. The Bridegroom was attended by Mr A. Ainley, of Selby, as best man. The Bride was given away by her brother, Mr Edwin C. Hood, of Belper. ... She was attended by Miss Alice Hardbottle, of Selby, ... and whose bouquet of choice flowers and gold cresent brooch were the gift of the bridegroom. ... Mr & Mrs Scaum, of the Railway Hotel, ...
We know Edwin Casson Hood is a Son of William Hood of Selby, Son of George Hood and Sarah Russell of Selby his Wife (my 4x Gt Grandparents).
We know about Marion Scaum who was also mentioned (nee Marion Hood) daughter of William and Jane Casson Hood (nee Casson) and we have discussed these before.
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Not much is known of Mr Albert Ainley or Miss Alice Hardbottle and if they might relate to the Simpson Ullathorne family, or distant relatives?
Albert Ainley signature attached.
Mark
Added: Information about a possible Alice Hardbottle in next reply.
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Selby Times, 11th December 1903
An Alice Hardbottle, aged 28, has died at West Field.
The home of the late Jane Casson Hood was called West Field [near Brayton].
There is a 1903 Registration in the Death Duty Index, TNA, Kew. Cat Ref IR 27/601
Hardbottle Alice, Selby, Date of Death 7 Dec 03, Executor or Administrator A. Hardbottle, Registry Wakefield, so I'll see if there is a Will and order it.
Mark
Added:
Possible Baptism for Alice.
Brayton Baptism Register 1876
Born 1875
Alice Hardbottle,
Parents: James & Alice Hardbottle.
Abode: Burton Hall.
Occupation, Farmer.
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Re the likely Albert Ainley of Selby at the 1895 Selby, Yorkshire, Ullathorne = Hood, marriage.
1891 Census, Brayton Road, Selby
Albert Ainley, Head, S, 29, Railway Bookstall Manager, born Yorkshire, Thorne.
Sarah Ainley, Mother, Wid, 61, born Cambridgeshire, Thorney.
1871 Census, Market Place, Thorne.
Samuel Ainley, Head, 46, Plumber & Glazier, born Yorks, Thorne.
Sarah Ainley, Wife, 41 born Thorney, Cambs.
Arthur Joe Ainley 12, born Thorne, Yorks.
[born 1859 Mother M.S. Jones]
Albert Ainley 7, born Yorks, Thorne.
[born 1864 Mother M.S. Jones]
1856 Thorne 18th May Marriage
Samuel Clough Ainley, 30, Bach., Plumber & Glazier, Thorne, Father Samuel Ainley, Innkeeper.
Sarah Jones, 21, Spinster, ...
In the presence of Thomas Bailey ; [first forename? Mattes / Attes / Wattes?] Parkin Ainley.
Bapt Thorne, Yorks, 28 Feb 1825
Samuel Clough Ainley, S of Sam'l &.Eliz Ainley, Thorne, Publican.
Two 1818 Rotherham Marriages but the likely one is:-
"Samuel Ainley of Thorne"
Elizabeth Badger, Spinster
Present (wits) Mary Smith ; Joseph Kitchinman.
1861 Census Thorne [Samuel Ainley senior]
Samuel Ainley, Head, Wid'r, 68, Landed proprietor, born Yorks, Thorne.
Alethea Ainley, Daur, 26, born Yorks Thorne.
Amelia A Gutteridge, Grand daur, 18, born Yorks, Thorne.
Thorne, Yorks, Births & Baptisms 1792
Samuel Ainley (seniority 5) S of Samuel Ainley, Labourer, by Mary Clough, June 4th, June 19th.
1787, 23rd August, Snaith St Laurence by Banns.
Samuel Anley, Bachelor, of this Parish, Farmer and
Mary Clough of Pollington, Spinster.
Tho Moody ; Nathan Newby.
A related marriage looks to be ...
1842 Parish of Thorne
John Gutteridge, full, Wid'r, Shipbuilder, Hook in the Parish of Snaith, Father, Sam'l Gutteridge, Shipbuilder.
Ann Parkin Ainley, Minor, Spinster, Thorne, Father, Samuel Ainley, Innkeeper.
Present: Samuel Ainley ; Mary Badger
Possibly a link to Ainley (Licence)?
1790
John Pearson 40 of Doncaster &
Ann Anley 40 of Thorne.
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In view of the Albert Ainley research (above), it seems there is something incorrect about the strikeout and change in the 1851 Thorne, Yorkshire, Census for Samuel Ainley, 26, Plumber, born W.R. Yorks, Thorne.
Suggesting Samuel Ainley was the son of Elizabeth Vause?
Mark