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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: nazchk on Friday 01 April 16 22:26 BST (UK)
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hi all, me again. Can anyone tell me if its possible to find out the lair number of an old grave and if so who would I contact? Also, is it possible to find all the names of people interred in the same grave? I've been told that people were sometimes buried wherever there was an available space, and not necessarily the same family. The burials would have taken place around the early 1900,s.
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Hi, your best bet for information is to contact the Glasgow City Archives in the Mitchell Library. They can be reached via e-mail at archives@glasgowlife.org.uk if you are not near enough to visit them in person. The staff is always very helpful. Just make sure to give them as much information as you have to assist in the search. Kim
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Thankyou very much. I'll try this out.
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Hi if you look on this website www.memento-mori.co.uk and click on search burial location indices you will find St Kentigerns. ( scroll down the list) There is a list of monumental inscriptions and you may find who you are looking there.
Good luck.
Morag
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went to the mitchell library and found that there is only one actual grave with a lair number which contains three of the people i was searching for. the rest are buried in common ground. they still have a number, but are not buried together. also discovered another family member died in peebles poorhouse after finding their name in the poor relief records. thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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Hi I wonder if any one could help me. After contacting the Mitchell Library about various relatives buried at St Kentigerns Cemetery, In December we made the pilgrimage from England to the cemetery armed with grave sections and numbers and expected to be led straight to each grave. How wrong was I when we realised that there was no one to ask for help. After 3 hours in the freezing cold we left and returned 2 days later.it was minus 3 degrees with freezing fog but I was determined to find the grave of my mums baby brother and sister who died age 5 and 9 months. They were buried together but had no head stone. Hours later I think possible found found where they might be buried and laid a memorial plaque. I then tried to locate my Grandmother but was unable to as again there was no headstone. I did try to look at numbers of other graves but it was pointless.
My mum has an uncle, aunt and grandparents who were buried together in section 1 with a large cross memorial with names on but I could not find this for love nor money.
Something is pulling me back to the cemetery and I have vowed to go back next summer but I know I will come up against the same problems and wondered if any one can help me at all.
I have tried looking on the memento-more website but their names are not there.
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Hello, apologies if this question has been asked before. Andrew, a poster on here, very kindly gave me the section number and lair of my grandmothers grave in St. Kentigerns, unfortunately I've been unable to locate it. Does anyone know if there is a council department that could help with this?
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Have you tried asking the cemetery workers? There may be mort cloths kept at the cemetery which they might have access to.
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If you have the date of death, there is this online resource available:
www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1321853?availability=Family History Library
Monica
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Hi nazchk, thanks for your reply. We were at the cemetery yesterday but unfortunately there didn’t seem to be anyone working! Will go back again on another day. Thanks again.
Monica, thanks for the information, I already had the section and lair numbers I just wondered how I could go about finding the lair itself!
Jay
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Not St Kentigerns but I to retrieved my grt grandmothers lair number at St Peters Dalbeth and section number from the RC Archdiocese online it seems that every row of headstones there is a least one numbered usually on the base sometimes these are hard to see on the older ones and maybe over grown a wee bit with grass but with a wee bit of detective work always better in the drier days if you can find a map on sites like this and you have the correct numbers section lair etc you will succeed plz keep trying it is more than worth the effort hope this is of some help.
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Jay, sorry, of course you have them.
Try here www.glasgow.gov.uk/bereavement You can call or email them for advice.
Monica
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Thank you garngad, will be making another trip out there soon so will check for numbers.
Monica I have emailed the department you suggested so we will see what they say.
Thanks again everyone for your help, we can always rely on you chatters for help when needed!😃
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Monica, just thought I'd let you know I have received a response from the above. Unfortunately as they are a small team they can't offer that service. Worth a try though.
Will just do what a lot of posters have suggested and try to find a number on existing gravestones! Hopefully when we next visit someone will be around to maybe point us in the right direction, if not then Miss. Marple it is!😀
Thanks again everyone.
Jay
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Jay0777 your welcome just as another wee tip that could be of help at St Kentigerns there is a container/portacabin in the bottom car park run by the headstone sellers/erectors ( cant remember the company name) if that s open they could be a good place to ask for directions to a grave....
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I’ll look out for that garngard, thanks again!!😃
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Not been on the forum lately so only just read this. You can sometimes locate a lair or at least the approx. location using the map https://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Documents/St%20Kentigerns%20Cemetery%20Plan.pdf . You will know the section number from the info I sent you. If you visit the cemetery again and find the section, have a close look at some headstones down near their base or on the sides. You sometimes find the lair reference number is inscribed. They are usually in sequence, tho not always, so you can narrow down the location within the section. Even if no stone exists, you can get a reasonable fix on where the lair is.
You can also contact the cemeteries dept and they will locate it for you, but may charge a fee.
Hope that helps. Good luck
Andrew
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The monumental sculptor Garngad mentioned is T McGowan and Sons. Tel for the St Kentigerns portacabin is 0141 946 2429. Very helpful lady there most days. She told me recently that there is now only one work team covering all the Glasgow City Council cemeteries.
Andrew
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Thank you again Andrew, much appreciated. Unfortunately due to life getting in the way I haven’t managed back up to the cemetery but hope to go again soon. Will let you know if I find the lair.
Jay