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Hi all
I've been researching my OHs FT for some years now, but with a common surname and a broken family unit it has proved quite difficult at times.
However finding the death records of his Aunt and Uncles...I found this..
Florence L Moore died 5 JUNE (1961)... my son was born on this date
William C Moore died 2 MAY (1916)... my youngest son was born on this date
George Moore died 15 FEBRUARY (1941)...my daughter was born on this date.
So I have three siblings all dying on days that my children were born on, albeit my children were born much later.
How spooky !! :o :o
Has this kind of thing ever happened to anyone else
Claire
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Can't beat that Claire but I did discover my great grandparents married on my birthday 18 July which is rather sweet.
I have Moore family as well including a Florence and a William so there's coincidence for you!
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My mother-in-law's mother (who had died in 1930s) had the same birthday as me.
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Not really a spooky moment, but my mum's closest and favourite cousin arranged her wedding on my mum's 21st birthday and asked her to be bridesmaid. Imagine a seriously annoyed young woman not able to be the centre of attention on her own 21st birthday!
The spooky part is that a few years later my aunt's first child was born on my dad's birthday and my eldest sibling was born on my aunt's husband's birthday.
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Maybe not spooky but my husband and 2 kids were all born on the 8th of the month (different months).
I was and still am a great Elvis fan and my oldest, a son, was born on 8th January same date as my idol.
The saddest and maybe the spooky one was that my dad passed away on my birthday.
Dorrie
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That's very sad Dorrie ,
I was going to say the phrase 'keeping it in the family' comes to mind, but it means something completely different :)...... but the theme tune to the "Twilight Zone" keeps popping in my head. :o :o
Claire
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Also not spooky...
My husband and I share a birthday albeit we are a year apart in age, our sister-in-law also has her birthday on the same day....
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Thanks Claire. Dad was exactly 88years and 8months old so he had a good innings. Number 8 relevant again in my immediate family.
Not so sad now that my mum has passed too. We make it a double "celebration" and raise a glass to him and myself.
Dorrie
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Dorrie..I think that's a lovely thing to do, I suppose everyone here has similar stories, where would we be without them :)
3sillydogs.... That's a great excuse for a party ;D ;D
claire
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Does this just apply to dates or general coincidences in genealogy?
In 1863 my ancestor lived in Viaduct Terrace, Brighton, his fiancee Mary was from Slaugham, 13 miles away, and 2 of her neighbours in her village, members of the Rayward family were living at Viaduct Terrace in 1871, they moved to Brighton in about 1867. By then Mary was in London. And one member of the Rayward family registered the death of Mary's mother in 1845.
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I have come across this quite often in my genealogical travels. I will see a date and think, "Oh, that's so-and-so's birthday; what a coincidence!"
Not quite the same, but my mother and two of her siblings share the same birthday or one day apart, only the youngest, my uncle, has a birthday in a different month.
And a spooky coincidence for me was breaking down one of my biggest brickwalls on my youngest son's first birthday. Pre-internet, an ordered microfilm had arrived at the LDS, and I ducked in for a quick look, and there was the marriage record confirming a surname I had been looking for for years.
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My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather died 15th Oct 1874 and my daughter was born on 15th October.
I know I have come across other date coincidences as well.
Also my 'proper' name is Caroline. My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather had a sister called Caroline. There has been no other relatives of that name connected to our family.
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All these 'coincidences' spooky or otherwise make this hobby interesting, and in a way brings us closer and gives us a bond to the people we are researching.
I love it ;D .....although I have to admit to being a bit freaked out :o
claire
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C_W you have reminded me of another coincidence. My father-in-law wanted to name my wife Angelina, but when my mother-in-law found out it was the name of one of his ex-girlfriends, she said no obviously.
Angelina happens to be the name of his great grandmother as well, a fact he did not know.
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I have a few. My daughter was born on my Dad's birthday, his first grandaughter after 7 grandsons. He said it was the best birthday he ever had!
My son was born just 10 days before my Dad died, so sadly he didn't get to see his 8th grandson!
There's a couple more matching birth dates in my tree, but I can't remember which ones off hand.
I guess with the law of probability, there's a much higher chance of having common birth dates (day and month) than there are in winning the lottery - only 365/366 days in a year 😄
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I guess with the law of probability, there's a much higher chance of having common birth dates (day and month) than there are in winning the lottery - only 365/366 days in a year 😄
It doesn't stop me buying a ticket every week. I live in hope....
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..Don't we all ;D ;D ;D...
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Ditto Claire!!
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My mother's uncle died on the 3 November 1917 torpedoed in the Atlantic, aged 24. Her brother named (both names) after the uncle, died on the 3 November 1940 torpedoed in the Atlantic, aged 24.
Cheers
KHP
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Now that is a spooky, and sad coincidence
Claire
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I was typing the same, when I read your post Claire. That is very spooky.
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Sure is freaky indeed, chances of a member of the family dying the same way, years later. The memories it must have raised when my Uncle died for my grandmother.
Cheers
KHP
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Applies in friendships too. In the 1950's my mother became very good friends with someone and that friendship continued until their death and is now my friendship with their children.
My sons birthday is May 15, same as the husband in the family and one of my granddaughters was born on the same day as their twins, January 10th.
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"My mother's uncle died on the 3 November 1919 torpedoed in the Atlantic, aged 24"
But who was torpedoing ships in 1919?
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"My mother's uncle died on the 3 November 1919 torpedoed in the Atlantic, aged 24"
But who was torpedoing ships in 1919?
No-one, a typo which I didn't pick up, until eagle eyed you did ;D Been fixed, ta muchly :D
Cheers
KHP
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Another sad co-incidence. I remember finding information on the death of my Great Uncle in WW1 and something about the date nagged and nagged at me until a horrible thought set it, so I checked my records... and yes, his only sister got married the same day in Glasgow.
Of course she wouldn't have known on the day, but what an awful wedding and anniversary memory. :(
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Sometimes these coincidences make me feel we really are 'connected to our families history'...
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Yes I know what you mean. It's a bit like....that was how it was always going to be.
claire
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Not really the same spookyness of dates but strange coincidence - Rosball just photographed a probate package for me of my gg grandmother's sister who it turns out lived the last year of her life and died just 2 blocks away from where I grew up. And that same day reading another post here on rootschat to help with a totally random obit, the next obit in the newspaper was for the wife of my g grandmother's brother's boss.
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When researching dads Smith family we needed to find the maiden name of his great grandmother, she and his g.grandfather had 10 children. With a name like Smith we decided to get their eldest daughters certificate as she had three given names, having already had six sons (including my g.grandfather) they had gone to town on her names. ;D. When the certificate arrived we found that she was born 3rd October same as dad. That felt spooky at the time.
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Not a date, but a spooky co-incidence. When I decided I wanted to train as a teacher, I picked a college in Grantham, Lincolnshire, for no other reason than I liked the look of it. I'd never been to Lincolnshire or had any connections with it.
Years later, when I started my family tree, I discovered that my great x3 grandfather was born in Grantham and that his parents and quite a few of his siblings are buried in the church there. I walked through that churchyard almost every day on the way back to my flat. Wish I'd known then.
I then discovered that the same 3x great grandfather died on the 23rd August, which was 110 years before his 5xgreat grandson was born.
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I'm loving these spooky tales and coincidences :)
They are all so interesting to read
Claire
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I discovered that my grt grt uncle in 1881 was living in the same close that my parents moved into when they married in 1964.
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Not a date, but a coincidence that surprised the whole family. My grandmother's family came from a rural village about 50 miles north of where I grew up. Indeed the whole family knew that is where they had come from for as far back as anyone knew.
It was therefore a bit of a shock to find that my gg grandfather had moved into the village where I grew up, farmed the land that was subsequently farmed by my father 100 years later, had my g grandfather there, then (after the death of my gg grandmother) married a lady from the house I actually lived in before moving "back home". No one had the faintest idea.......
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Is it Coincidence or Destiny? Who knows?
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I purchased a CD online from Scotland. The CD was historical images of people and old housing etc, from the Miners Rows in an Ayrshire Village.
It turned out that in the 1950's, the maker of the CD had lived in the exact same miners row house as a child, that my great grandfather had lived in with his parents when HE was young - in the 1800's!
I keep up a correspondence with this person, he knew a lot of my relatives, I visited Scotland and stayed with him and his wife, he introduced me to a lot of my relatives, and there were many of them - almost every second person he stopped to talk to in the street was related to me, as both my paternal and maternal grandparents were born there. (He knew them all, it's such a small place)
I had said to him, that the odds were we'd probably be related as well!
Of course the inevitable happened one day when he stopped to talk to a woman who was his relative, introduced me, to her- and she was also a relative of mine.
Took a good few years to put the families together, but the stranger that I bought my CD from was indeed related to my family, and now he and his wife are very good friends of mine as well!
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That's a great story, and what a coincidence to buy a CD from someone who lived in a house that Your Gt Grandfather lived in :)
It's a small world isn't it :)
claire
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Certainly is Clare! Story is a bit similar to Pharma's!
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Is it Coincidence or Destiny? Who knows?
It is anyone's guess, things happen for a reason :) After starting my FT I was browsing our electoral rolls, as you do, looking for extra family, and found that my paternal grandmother's great nephew had been living five houses away from us where I grew up.
The other is, I grew up with knowing my courtesy aunts next door neighbour's sons. The mother's maiden name was the same as ours. Years later one name from the tree kept jumping out at me, and I was drawn to it like a magnet. I had to investigate, and it turned out they were my ggrandfather's brother's family. One of the boys went on to play Rugby for NZ.
Cheers
KHP
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I've always been intrigued by the fact that several generations of one line no matter where they moved to their neighbour was named Clark.
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Knowing much more about my maternal grandmother's family, when I first started researching my family history I began with her side. After some months I decided it was time to do my grandfather's side and having obtained certificates and checked the census I was really spooked to find that they actually descended from the same family so my 5xmaternal grandfather is also my 6xpaternal grandfather. Considering my grandparents were born on the opposite sides of the same county and the family originated from a tiny hamlet in the next county was amazing.
It got even spookier when I checked the parish records and found that the baptisms of my 3xmaternal grandfather and 4xpaternal grandfather were on the same page of the register and the marriages of my 4xmaternal grandparents and 5xpaternal grandparents were next to each other in the register. That's what I call keeping it in the family!!
Lyn
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Wow Snowqueen that's a really spooky one!! ;D
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That one's really amazing!
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I agree, really spoooky! :o :o
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Crikey, I think that one would get first prize Snowqueen, really spooky indeed.
Claire :)
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Knowing much more about my maternal grandmother's family, when I first started researching my family history I began with her side. After some months I decided it was time to do my grandfather's side and having obtained certificates and checked the census I was really spooked to find that they actually descended from the same family so my 5xmaternal grandfather is also my 6xpaternal grandfather. Considering my grandparents were born on the opposite sides of the same county and the family originated from a tiny hamlet in the next county was amazing.
It got even spookier when I checked the parish records and found that the baptisms of my 3xmaternal grandfather and 4xpaternal grandfather were on the same page of the register and the marriages of my 4xmaternal grandparents and 5xpaternal grandparents were next to each other in the register. That's what I call keeping it in the family!!
Lyn
:o :o :o :o
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When I discovered that my parents-in-law were actually 4th cousins, my mother-in-law said that I'd done enough digging. ::)
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:) ;) ;)
claire
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When I discovered that my parents-in-law were actually 4th cousins, my mother-in-law said that I'd done enough digging. ::)
;D ;D ;D
That remark would make me dig even more ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D....maybe she knew a bit more that she didn't want you you to find out?.?
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Another "spooky" experience I had was last year when I managed to find my gg grandfather in the 1881 census with his family. Then I found him in the 1891 census and one member of his household was his grandson with a surname which niggled at the back of my old mind. So I backtracked on this boy and discovered he also had a sister (they had both ended up in a poorhouse for a short time after their mother died and their father did a runner.) Well this girl's full name had the bells ringing in my mind but I could not recall why. Then one night out of the blue I could hear my gran saying "We met ........ down the town today." The girls exact name and I could remember being with my gran when this happened. No I thought its your mind playing tricks on you it couldn't be the same person could it? Now being very curious I managed to find her death certificate and she died a few months after my "meeting" with her. It was the same person and I was 6 years old at the time.
Did this prompt come from the deep recesses of my mind or was my gran helping from beyond.
Spooky.......................?
Dorrie
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I always like to think with stories like that Dorrie, that maybe we do get help from our loved ones that have passed. :)
claire
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Another "spooky" experience I had was last year when I managed to find my gg grandfather in the 1881 census with his family. Then I found him in the 1891 census and one member of his household was his grandson with a surname which niggled at the back of my old mind. So I backtracked on this boy and discovered he also had a sister (they had both ended up in a poorhouse for a short time after their mother died and their father did a runner.) Well this girl's full name had the bells ringing in my mind but I could not recall why. Then one night out of the blue I could hear my gran saying "We met ........ down the town today." The girls exact name and I could remember being with my gran when this happened. No I thought its your mind playing tricks on you it couldn't be the same person could it? Now being very curious I managed to find her death certificate and she died a few months after my "meeting" with her. It was the same person and I was 6 years old at the time.
Did this prompt come from the deep recesses of my mind or was my gran helping from beyond.
Spooky.......................?
Dorrie
Goosebumps!!
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I always like to think with stories like that Dorrie, that maybe we do get help from our loved ones that have passed. :)
claire
I like to believe that as well. I had a relative who was into genealogy and had been for years, and after she had died, all of a sudden I was finding people that we had both been searching for but could never find before.
Cheers
KHP
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Showing an interest in the Kray Twins for over 10 years, then finding out, and verifying for myself that we share ancestors in Shoreditch in the 1780s. Also we may be related through a Sussex line.
Finding out I am distantly related to a lifelong family friend who was a dinenr lady and who is mums best friend, and I went to school with her children.
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;D ;D ;D....maybe she knew a bit more that she didn't want you you to find out?.?
I think that was after I had also discovered that my father-in-law's grandparents were first cousins. ;D
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I always like to think with stories like that Dorrie, that maybe we do get help from our loved ones that have passed. :)
claire
I like to believe that as well. I had a relative who was into genealogy and had been for years, and after she had died, all of a sudden I was finding people that we had both been searching for but could never find before.
Cheers
KHP
Do you think she was getting inside information? ;)
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Do you think she was getting inside information? ;)
;D ;D Perhaps she was continuing her research? ;D :D
Cheers
KHP
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Another sort of spooky coincidence comes to mind. After finding some collateral ancestors in the census records, I went to look up the corresponding births and marriages in the BDM indexes. I knew I had to find a Henry Hogard Pine's birth in 1894. Imagine my surprise when I found his birth in the March quarter, right next to a Henry Hogarth Pine! It turns out they were second cousins, but for a second I thought I was seeing double!
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In 1970 I was at college in Lancashire, I was desperately unhappy and went out for a walk up the lanes near the college wishing that in life you you could go back to the beginning and begin again and oerhaps things would be better. After a bit I came to a village sign, gave myself a big shake, realising that perhaps life moving forward would be OK.
In 2000 researching my paternal family I tracked the family back and their we where in the 1600s and 1700s in the very village I had got to on that day in 1970.
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These things make you believe that life is all planned out for you, and many things are "meant to be".
I also think that those of us who have traced their family history are 'lucky'. I don't find these things spooky but in a funny sort of way reassuring.
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That's a lovely way of putting it C_W :)
Pinefamily: Some of my research is done relaxing with glass of wine in hand, if I had found that, I would have been convinced I were seeing double ;)
Gibel: that is a lovely story, to think you walked where your ancestors walked, it's a funny old life sometimes. :)
claire
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Sometimes I have a little lightbulb moment about something that I've been unable to locate for a long time, or a niggling thought that I might have got some particular thing wrong!
When the lightbulb goes on, I shout "Woohoo Henry" (or whatever name or place etc, the lightbulb has flashed), and pat my shoulder - well - someone's gotta be looking over my shoulder - don't they?? ;D ;D ;D
Claire, when I visited Ayrshire, I walked up Glen Afton in New Cumnock several times! This is where my great grandfather spent his childhood playing, and he wrote several poems about it, and the area in general. It was pretty special to realise he had been there picking "brambles" and taking them "hame tae his mither in her wee but and ben" - which was a miner's row cottage!
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Hi jaybelnz,
That's a lovely memory to have , and poems as well. All these stories make our 'history' come to life.
I often think my Grandfather is watching over me. Not long ago someone started a post on here " the first music/ record you ever owned". As soon as I saw the post I thought " Vienna " by Ultravox, and then this voice popped in my head. " dream your tears away".
This was the title of a song/ record my grandfather bought me when I was really little. I was going through a bit of a rough time , and I could remember the words of a song I probably hadn't heard for 43 years. It made me feel a record he gave me when I was a child I finally understood it's meaning when I needed it most.
Don't suppose anyone remembers it, it was by my childhood faves 'Pinky and Perky' ;D
claire
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Hi jaybelnz,
That's a lovely memory to have , and poems as well. All these stories make our 'history' come to life.
I often think my Grandfather is watching over me. Not long ago someone started a post on here " the first music/ record you ever owned". As soon as I saw the post I thought " Vienna " by Ultravox, and then this voice popped in my head. " dream your tears away".
This was the title of a song/ record my grandfather bought me when I was really little. I was going through a bit of a rough time , and I could remember the words of a song I probably hadn't heard for 43 years. It made me feel a record he gave me when I was a child I finally understood it's meaning when I needed it most.
Don't suppose anyone remembers it, it was by my childhood faves 'Pinky and Perky' ;D
claire
Now you mention it I think I may have had that record.
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Hi pharmaT
It was actually the B side to 'What's New at the Zoo'. :)
claire
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About 20 years ago I wished for a London born ancestor, I really felt an affinity with London for some reason. All I knew was I had family from Suffolk, Essex and Durham. In early 2004 I found my great gran was born in Islington, London. Sometimes I wonder is it meant to be, the want for a London ancestor was because I had one.
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I went on holiday to Rothbury in Northumberland on the trail of great great grandfather Edward Pyle (with practically nothing to go on). Every night I went to bed asking Ed to give me a sign. One wet day we went for a pub lunch, having chosen the pub only because I liked the hanging baskets and afterwards we walked through the church yard. There I found the grave of an Edward Pyle (not my Edward Pyle though). I made a note of the details from the gravestone and carried on. On further research I discovered that in 1861 the Edward Pyle in the graveyard had been the licensee of the pub we had just had our lunch in and going back further to the 1841 census found him with his mother and grandparents - and my Edward Pyle was in that household too.
I think they do try to help from beyond the grave, but you have to be specific who you want to find, especially if there are lots of Edwards in your family!
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Don't think it'd work with my mob - one, who was for a few years a Spiritualist, is very evasive.
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About 20 years ago I wished for a London born ancestor, I really felt an affinity with London for some reason. All I knew was I had family from Suffolk, Essex and Durham. In early 2004 I found my great gran was born in Islington, London. Sometimes I wonder is it meant to be, the want for a London ancestor was because I had one.
I was the same with Irish ancestors, Coombs. Having found several in my wife's ancestry, I had always bemoaned that I had none. I don't know why, I've never been there, but for some reason I felt a little empty. Imagine my surprise when I broke down two separate brickwalls to find three lines of Irish ancestors. I have raised a Guiness in triumph every March ever since. ;D
And Wotty, I did a similar thing. I had old photos of when my great grandmother held the licence on a pub just out of Adelaide. My wife and I went there one day, armed with the photos. The manager was fascinated, and even pointed out which window was which as some had been bricked up. A great day.
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I was born 100 years after my Great Grandmother
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I was born 100 years after my Great Grandmother
I've always thought that because I was born 100 years after my paternal great grandfather came out to South Australia, that was the reason I have become a family historian. I know it's not true, but it's as good a reason as any. :)
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About 20 years ago I wished for a London born ancestor, I really felt an affinity with London for some reason. All I knew was I had family from Suffolk, Essex and Durham. In early 2004 I found my great gran was born in Islington, London. Sometimes I wonder is it meant to be, the want for a London ancestor was because I had one.
I was the same with Irish ancestors, Coombs. Having found several in my wife's ancestry, I had always bemoaned that I had none. I don't know why, I've never been there, but for some reason I felt a little empty. Imagine my surprise when I broke down two separate brickwalls to find three lines of Irish ancestors. I have raised a Guiness in triumph every March ever since. ;D
And Wotty, I did a similar thing. I had old photos of when my great grandmother held the licence on a pub just out of Adelaide. My wife and I went there one day, armed with the photos. The manager was fascinated, and even pointed out which window was which as some had been bricked up. A great day.
Good feeling isn't it? And my London born ancestor's paternal gran was from Shoreditch, the East End, a Cockney ancestor. Her paternal grandad from Soho. True London people from 2 very London areas, Soho and Shoreditch.
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Both my wife and I have London ancestors back in the 17th and 18th centuries, ranging from the City of London, to Wimbledon and surrounding areas.
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13 July 1918 AT The Battle OF The Somme My Great grandfather was killed. exactly 90 years later my son was born on 13 July
11 November 1906 my great grandfathers daughter died from taking poison from a bottle. My daughter was born 11 Nov.
My Uncle says they came back, ;D
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" My uncle says they came back"
Similar story to mine. It does make you wonder doesn't it :)
claire
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Too coincidental, too often to be otherwise Claire.
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I have heard of that happening quite often. Makes you think doesn't it......
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Has this kind of thing ever happened to anyone else
Less spooky, but a tad romantic... I was born 9 months to the day after the wedding night of my parents :D
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Now that is romantic :) ;D
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On a similar note, I was born 9 months after my parents' wedding anniversary.
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Well I may as well be honest...I was born six months after my parents were married ;D :D
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Well I may as well be honest...I was born six months after my parents were married ;D :D
A real heir raising moment..... ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well I may as well be honest...I was born six months after my parents were married ;D :D
A real heir raising moment..... ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Well I may as well be honest...I was born six months after my parents were married ;D :D
7 months for me and I wasn't premature. ;D
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"7 months for me and I wasn't premature"
Me neither ;D ;D
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Not hair- raising, rather romantic really, but I was born exactly 9 months after my father's final 24hr Demob. leave from the WW2! My Mum told me this not long after my Dad passed away!
He wasn't actually home for 24 hrs, as the train track only went so far, and he and his friend who was also going home to his own wife, had to hitchhike the rest of the way - on both journeys! 😄😄💗💗
When I got his WW2 RNZAF record - there it was it black and white! So - I know I'm a real genuine love child!!
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Now that is romantic :)❤️
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Awwww :-* :-* :-*
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Some interesting stories of all sorts ;)
A little spooky as my mother didn’t really know her parents, being 6 yrs when her father died & 7 yrs when her mother died……..
My maternal g/parents married 26 Dec
My maternal g/mother died 1948
My mother died 26 Dec 1984 (yr digits in reverse of her mother’s death)
My paternal g g/father b 18 Jul
My paternal g g/mother b 1864
My paternal g g/mother died 18 Jul 1946 (hubby’s birthday & own birth yr in reverse)
My paternal g/mother was b 1882 & my daughter born 100 yrs later 1982
(The only g/parent I met as the rest were gone before I was born)
Annie
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I tell you.... they are watching over us :) :)
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With coincidences like that....I would say so :o
Annie
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I knew nothing about my paternal grandfather ,only that he had died in WW1, we didnt even know where he was born.
I ordered his birth certificate and had a strong feeling there would be a date coincidence,sure enough he has the same birthday as my son,then we discovered his sister shared my daughters birthday.
When we eventually visited the area he came from, I was driving and my sister said that we had passed the turnoff to his village, I immediately said,'we can get to it by turning down this road' I just knew it ,although I had never been there and sure enough we drove straight to it.
Just intuition no doubt.
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"just intuition no doubt"
.....or was it ? :o
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My gran was born 20th May 1920, her older half brother, from her mums first marriage was born 20th May 1915. So concieved August 1914 and August 1919 respectively, prviding no slightly early births.
I have Sussex ancestors on mums side but I did wish for a direct ancestor who lived in Sussex but was from further up north. Then I found my Oxford born great gran on the 1911 census in Bexhill, Sussex.
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My gran was born 20th May 1920, her older half brother, from her mums first marriage was born 20th May 1915. So concieved August 1914 and August 1919 respectively, prviding no slightly early
Must have been someone's birthday in August!! 😄😄
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My gran was born 20th May 1920, her older half brother, from her mums first marriage was born 20th May 1915. So concieved August 1914 and August 1919 respectively, prviding no slightly early
Must have been someone's birthday in August!! 😄😄
My nan born 20 May 1920 was concieved around August 1919. Her father was examined by the doctor in his regiment and he was deemed unfit for further service, and demobilised for good in Sep 1919. Maybe they wanted to, ahem, celebrate him failing his army medical test as he had deserted a few times and served time in the Wandsworth army prison.
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I have a cluster of births in Glasgow 9 months after Glasgow Fair ;D
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My brother and I were both born towards the end of September.
It would seem my parents loved to celebrate Xmas and New Year ;D :o ;D
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I was born exactly 9 months after my father's 25th birthday!
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I was born exactly 9 months after my Father's final 24 hr demob leave after WW2.
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Almost 9 months to the day of my parents' 5th wedding anniversary.
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Seems like our parents knew how to party ;D
Sorry to our Aus/NZ friends, or anyone living outside the UK, but I might have a go at this
http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/nhs-birthday/birthday.html
claire
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Crikey seems like I was the 12,634,529th baby welcomed into the world by our NHS. :) :)
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That's such a fantastic find Claire - WOW, I'm impressed!! Great stuff 👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Won't work for me or brother. :'( :'(
Both born before 1948, and not in UK :o :o :o
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Nor me AC - Born in NZ - pre 1948 too! Shame! 😄😄
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Worked for me and my number is a LOT lower than Claire's lol. :o
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On a similar theme to the NHS link.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-09/remembering-the-1678-babies-born-in-adelaides-lying-in-hospital/7395376
It's an eye opener reading the conditions these poor women had to endure. My great grandmother gave birth to my grandmother there (she was Class A). Orphaned into the Industrial School, she was then put into service at a young age.
Sorry if it's off-topic.
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Morning/Evening :)
It doesn't matter if it's 'off topic', another good link :)
It should be brought to people's attention how difficult and hard things could be for expectant mothers. We have had similar stories over here.
It's very sad actually :'(
claire
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It is indeed. That is why I have such strong opinions about the "single" mothers on welfare these days, living with their boyfriends, and multiple children to sometimes multiple fathers. Drugs, alcohol, and an apparent God-given right to welfare.
Rant over.
And yes, it's evening here. :)
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On a similar theme to the NHS link.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-09/remembering-the-1678-babies-born-in-adelaides-lying-in-hospital/7395376
It's an eye opener reading the conditions these poor women had to endure. My great grandmother gave birth to my grandmother there (she was Class A). Orphaned into the Industrial School, she was then put into service at a young age.
Sorry if it's off-topic.
I don't see it as being off topic as after all this is RootsCHAT ;) I found that link very interesting.
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All too true pinefamily. It's almost like they hit their teenage years and boom..it's let's have a baby!! The state will pay.
When I had my last child I was thirty, in hospital it was 'get in ,get the job done, go home', in the next bed was a twelve year old girl ( being treated like the child she was, everyone fussing around her) having her first child. I couldn't even hold a conversation with her I was that shocked.
Another rant over ;)
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All too true pinefamily. It's almost like they hit their teenage years and boom..it's let's have a baby!! The state will pay.
When I had my last child I was thirty, in hospital it was 'get in ,get the job done, go home', in the next bed was a twelve year old girl ( being treated like the child she was, everyone fussing around her) having her first child. I couldn't even hold a conversation with her I was that shocked.
Another rant over ;)
12!!!!!!!!! Now I am shocked!!!
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I know, I often wonder about her and what happened to her . She would be 31 now with a grown up child of her own. Still a young woman :o
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I'm surprised they fussed around her. When I had my first the midwife gave me a lecture and made it very clear she disapproved of me. She told me I should have considered at least finishing school so I had at least some education and really should have got married first. She also asked me what use I was going to be to my child if I was barely literate myself. In my vulnerable post partum state I did not take it very well and spent a lot of time sobbing.
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Hi,
That's a terrible attitude for a midwife to have pharmaT. It's actually really disgusting :(
Well, that is exactly what they were like, it was early 1997 and I suppose attitudes have changed over the years. People are more open-minded about single mums now.
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You are right Claire but I'd still be shocked at a 12 year old having a baby, my grand-daughter's were still out playing on bikes in the street at that age and my daughter was worried about that never mind pregnancy. :-\
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I should have pointed out that I was a lot older than 12 when the midwife said that to me. I was also married but had had to take my ring off because my hands were so badly swollen. It was also 2005 so not that long ago.
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It's still not a good attitude to have single, married, 12, 30 or any age, especially in childbirth, it's stressful enough.
PharmaT I hope no offence has been taken :)
Claire
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None from you Claire. The midwife, however caused lots of upset. She said quite a few things during my prolonged stay. I was quite ill post partum thanks to complications and a few mistakes at the hospital. By the time I was discharged I was in the full throws of PND (not entirely due to the midwife but not exactly helped by her) and was absolutely terrified that my baby was going to be taken away from me.
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Thanks pharmaT, I work in a hospital and yes there are nurses with a God-like attitude, I hope you complained.
claire :)
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Thanks pharmaT, I work in a hospital and yes there are nurses with a God-like attitude, I hope you complained.
claire :)
Oh no, I was terrified complaining would get me reported to social services. Not 100% rational but I was really unwell at the time.
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What a dreadful story, PharmaT - lets hope that she is no longer nursing. Hopefully, if she treated others in the same way, some were in a position to complain and she was disciplined. Luckily most nurses are not like her.
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It is a terrible story and like groom says let's hope something was done about her. Horrible woman :-X
claire
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Hi, regarding spooky or what?
while researching my wife's family tree I came across a photograph of her Great Grandmother's sister and family, the photograph had the sister, her husband, son and daughter on it,
"Have a look at this" I said, showing my wife her Great Great aunt and family, my wife gave a gasp and said "look at the little girl" the girl, (born 1919 and died in 1999) is the double of our Grandaughter when she was younger, nothing strange you might think?, however the little girl was born on the 6Th of June, the same day and month as our grandaughter.
Frank.
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Crikey that is spooky Frank :o
A similar thing happened to me. When my grandmother passed away she left strict instructions that a certain photo went with her of her sister that died aged 6 in 1920 amongst other mementos of her life. My brother on looking over the items remarked " Why is a picture of 'M' in there ? M being my daughter.I'd not really seen the similarities until he pointed it out, but it was quite spooky.
claire :)
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It is freaky when you can see family resemblances.
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If my nans older half brother was born 20th May 1915, he was concieved around August 1914, the month WW1 begun, and his mum's first hubby was also a soldier like her second one, my great grandad.
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Following on from last nights post, here's one everyone can have a go at ;D
" What date you were probably conceived on"
http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/
Me : My conception date was between 24th December 1965 - 1st Jan 1966... and my parents were probably listening to the record "Over and Over " :o :o :o by the Dave Clark Five
claire
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Following on from last nights post, here's one everyone can have a go at ;D
" What date you were probably conceived on"
http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/
Me : My conception date was between 24th December 1965 - 1st Jan 1966... and my parents were probably listening to the record "Over and Over " :o :o :o by the Dave Clark Five
claire
Oh that's fun!
(I typed in my children's birthdays and haven't even heard of the songs I was supposedly listening too!)
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Me neither, I certainly wasn't listening to The Osmonds lol. ;D
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Mine was the Mills Brothers "You Always Hurt The One You Love" - Aw Sorry Mum, I really couldn't help hurting you when you were giving birth to me!! 🌹🌹😄
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Ash, that's really sweet jaybelnz
I have to admit there were a couple of songs I hadn't heard of with my sons, my daughters was 'the Macerena'....I certainly wasn't doing those dance moves :o :o
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I hadn't heard of the song for my older daughter. The conception date for my younger daughter is slightly out but could work (based on scientific calculations) my husband worked away from home at the time.
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Yes that's spooky.
I discovered my grandparents married on Christmas Eve 1904, my son was born on Christmas Eve.
I also discovered one of my grandfathers was born on 17th April, my wedding anniversary!
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I suppose statistically we shouldn't be surprised, as the larger your tree is, the more chance there must be of events happening on the same dates.
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Spooky.
My gg.grandmother died in childbirth with my g.grandfather
His wife, my g grandmother also died in childbirth with my grandfather.
Both women (great grandfather's mother and his wife) died on exactly the same date and 27 years apart..
.3 December
My daughter was born on 3 December, exactly 100 yrs & 127yrs to the day, after my ancestral grandmothers deaths
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Crikey anne_p that is spooky :o :o
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I suppose statistically we shouldn't be surprised, as the larger your tree is, the more chance there must be of events happening on the same dates.
Groom.......I agree but..........when it comes to direct line that is less likely & there are a lot of "spooky" coincidences on here in direct lines
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One would have to agree with groom, it makes sense.
But anne_p's tale is sad and spooky , and as you so rightly say Annie, there are some really uncanny tales on this thread
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Some interesting stories of all sorts ;)
A little spooky as my mother didn’t really know her parents, being 6 yrs when her father died & 7 yrs when her mother died……..
My maternal g/parents married 26 Dec
My maternal g/mother died 1948
My mother died 26 Dec 1984 (yr digits in reverse of her mother’s death)
My paternal g g/father b 18 Jul
My paternal g g/mother b 1864
My paternal g g/mother died 18 Jul 1946 (hubby’s birthday & own birth yr in reverse)
My paternal g/mother was b 1882 & my daughter born 100 yrs later 1982
(The only g/parent I met as the rest were gone before I was born)
Annie
Just thought I would add another coincidence to this....
My maternal g/parents married 26 Dec
My maternal g/mother died 1948
My mother died 26 Dec 1984 (yr digits in reverse of her mother’s death)
My mother was cremated on the birth date of my daughter's father 31 Dec
Annie
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After reading all these posts this last couple of weeks, I really believe there has to be more to this than just a coincidence.
I'm sure they watch over us and let us know they are around :) :)
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ooops, my maths is rubbish as usual
My ancestral grandmothers died 23 yrs apart ( not 27)
gg grandmother died 3 Dec 1867 age28
g grandmother died 3 Dec 1890 age 23
My daughter was born 3 Dec 1990
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anne_p.... that is really uncanny :o :o
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My maternal grandmother died about 3.40pm 23rd July 1996 aged 96.
My daughter's birth was induced at 8am 22nd July 1997. After a 30 hour labour my wife was taken for an emergency ceasarian about 2pm the next day. My daughter was born 3.40pm 23rd July 1997.
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Wow! Thats a goodie!!
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My maternal grandmother died about 3.40pm 23rd July 1996 aged 96.
My daughter's birth was induced at 8am 22nd July 1997. After a 30 hour labour my wife was taken for an emergency ceasarian about 2pm the next day. My daughter was born 3.40pm 23rd July 1997.
:o :o :o
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Anne_p and Mirl, they are both very eerie in their coincidences.
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They certainly are :o :o :o
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I want to clarify my earlier post.
My ancestral grandmothers both died from complications of childbirth ( not in childbirth).
Each died a few days after giving birth.
Although my g grandfather and grandfather ( father and son) did have birthdays a few days apart.
they were both born at the end of Nov 1867 and 1890 respectively.
They were not born the day of their mothers deaths ( 3 Dec )
That would just be waaaay too spooky !
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Hi anne_p
The strange thing is here it all happened on the 3rd December :o
In my calendar I always look out for the 12th Dec.
1997 on that date my son ran into a moving car . He was perfectly fine, but gave me a scare.
The following year on the 12 Dec. my OH fell and broke his wrist.
12 Dec. 1999 I walked into a lamppost and ended up looking like I had an egg stuck on my forehead ;D
First two just a coincidence...the last one - I should have just looked where I was going, me thinks :D ;D
claire
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Something I found, not exactly spooky, but more interesting. My mother was an identical twin born in 1920. In 2007 her sister became ill, was admitted to hospital, fell into a coma and died 6 days later. Just after Christmas my mother became ill, fell into a coma and died 6 days later. It was exactly 18 weeks, down to the day and hour after her sister had died. Several times during those days we thought she was going, but she seemed to be hanging on as if she was waiting for the right time.
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That made the hairs stand up on my arms, groom.
:'(
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That made the hairs stand up on my arms, groom.
:'(
Not as much as it did to people who didn't know they were identical twins, when my mother attended her sister's funeral! There were a few shocked faces when she followed the coffin in. ;D
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Oh my, I bet there were a few stunned faces groom :)
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Certainly were, especially as my mother walked in with her nephew! We didn't think about the reaction it would get until later as we were so used to them looking alike even in old age. They were often stopped in the street by someone who thought they were talking to the other one.
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;D ;D ;D
I know it's been a bit of a gloomy subject, but it's always nice to have a trip down memory lane :)
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My 2xgreat uncle married his wife the day before she had her first child in May 1913. To me that is a hair raising moment.
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;D ;D it certainly is.
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Certainly were, especially as my mother walked in with her nephew! We didn't think about the reaction it would get until later as we were so used to them looking alike even in old age. They were often stopped in the street by someone who thought they were talking to the other one.
My dad was an identical twin too, he lived in Liverpool, his brother in Manchester, when one would visit the other people would greet them by the other twin's name and they got sick of saying "No, I'm not X I'm Y" which would involve a lengthy explanation so they just went along with it as it was easier. ;D
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Following on from the above. My nephew has identical twin boys and we've always joked around that they are a re-incarnation. One evening when they were about 2 we were all at my sister's place and my nephew picked up a photo album and started leafing through it, it had pictures of my dad in it who died back in 1982.
The twins pointed to a pic of dad and said quite distinctly "Grand-dad" though he looks nothing like their own grandfathers. My dad was quite bald. The twins have two grandfathers of their own, one has a full head of hair and wears glasses and the other is Indian with a full head of hair and wears glasses. So how did they know this man was their great grandfather?
I tell you we had some goosebump moments that night. :o
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I work with identical twins. We insist they wear different coloured caps, so we can tell them apart.
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My younger daughter talks to her Grt grandpa Robert. He died in 1960, she was born in 2011.
One night I really freaked out when she came into me and said Grandpa thinks we should have a party for his birthday next week. I looked at the calendar and right enough the next week was the 120th anniversary of his birth.
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BeeontheBay's post above reminds me of when our oldest son was small. One day he pointed to a photo of my wife's late brother and said, "He comes and talks to me." :o :o
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Now those last few posts are spooky!
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I'll say :o :o
They do say children are more perceptive of spirits etc. don't they ?
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I recall reading somewhere that children who have their little imaginary playmates, may well be connecting with someone who has died!
Added - also reputed to be Angels!
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We moved into our house that was built in a cleared area known by older neighbours as the "Old Oak Woods" When I was pregnant, both myself, my husband and my mother and aunt heard a baby crying in the house. We were a little spooked. When my son was about 3 weeks old, we had visitors sitting in the living area. My son was in his cradle beside us but his baby monitor was still connected in his bedroom. We all heard a baby cry from his room even though he was asleep in front of us. When my son was less than three, he talked to us about Jack who played with him in his room. Jack was the naughty one who made all the mess. We asked him to describe him, which he did, along with his sister Sukie, brothers Mallie and Greg. He would look at me and say, "can you not see him Mum?". To this day I am still unsure if he had an imaginary friend or something more. He is now 18 and we chat about it sometimes but he doesn't remember it. On the positive side, there has never been a scary energy in our house, BUT, lots of shadows moving in the hallways. I see them regularly, and it doesn't bother me, but it has spooked a few babysitters over the years.
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My great nephew was born 4 years after my father (his great grandfather) had died. There is no way that he would have known his name as he would have heard him referred to as Dad or Grandad. When he was about 3 he acquired an imaginary friend, and when asked his name, he replied with the name of my father, not a particularly common name. This friend stayed with him for about 3 years, sometimes he went on holiday for a few weeks, but always came back. Strangely he left for good soon after my mother died.
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Was your house a new build, Irishrose? If not it would be interesting to see if anyone with those names ever lived in the house before you.
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I recall reading somewhere that children who have their little imaginary playmates, may well be connecting with someone who has died!
Added - also reputed to be Angels!
My cousin had a imaginary friend who she used to talk to at night in bed when the lights were out, she was about 8 or 9, he was Peter, and she said she thought she saw him. Of course I think this is all in the mind, the only Peter in the family was Peter Packard (1703-1757).
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Since doing my family tree two incidents have stood out. When we went to Nottingham we decided to drive round to see if we could see my mums old house from when she was a child and also other family members homes, having never driven around the area before, I thought I would end up lost, but I managed to find each house I was looking for - it was almost as if someone was driving for me.
The second incident was when I was at our local records office looking through a number of burial records, all in books by year and as I looked through them I piled them to one side, when I got to the last book without finding what I was looking for the pile beside me fell down onto the table again and one of them fell open.... right there in front of me was the information I was looking for. :o
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Since doing my family tree two incidents have stood out. When we went to Nottingham we decided to drive round to see if we could see my mums old house from when she was a child and also other family members homes, having never driven around the area before, I thought I would end up lost, but I managed to find each house I was looking for - it was almost as if someone was driving for me.
The second incident was when I was at our local records office looking through a number of burial records, all in books by year and as I looked through them I piled them to one side, when I got to the last book without finding what I was looking for the pile beside me fell down onto the table again and one of them fell open.... right there in front of me was the information I was looking for. :o
I'm having visions of the scene in the library from "Ghostbusters".
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We moved into our house that was built in a cleared area known by older neighbours as the "Old Oak Woods" When I was pregnant, both myself, my husband and my mother and aunt heard a baby crying in the house. We were a little spooked. When my son was about 3 weeks old, we had visitors sitting in the living area. My son was in his cradle beside us but his baby monitor was still connected in his bedroom. We all heard a baby cry from his room even though he was asleep in front of us. When my son was less than three, he talked to us about Jack who played with him in his room. Jack was the naughty one who made all the mess. We asked him to describe him, which he did, along with his sister Sukie, brothers Mallie and Greg. He would look at me and say, "can you not see him Mum?". To this day I am still unsure if he had an imaginary friend or something more. He is now 18 and we chat about it sometimes but he doesn't remember it. On the positive side, there has never been a scary energy in our house, BUT, lots of shadows moving in the hallways. I see them regularly, and it doesn't bother me, but it has spooked a few babysitters over the years.
And that is like something straight out of a book or movie. :o
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Everyone on here spends a lot of time researching people no longer with us. I couldn't live in a home like irishrose does , I'd be a nervous wreck :o :o
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Lol Claire, as I said, I feel no negative energy in my home, but there is a childish spirit here. Things are moved sometimes, and in my sons original bedroom where he used to chat to his "friend", no matter how often I tidy the room, and straighten the bed covers, it looks like someone has just sat on the bed.
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Oh crikey, irishrose that's really spooky :o :o
As pinefamily quoted having visions of a scene from a certain movie, I can also hear those words
" If there's something strange in your neighbourhood, Who you gonna call ? "..... ;D ;D
The only time I had anything like that happen was February 1995. I awoke during the night thinking someone was calling out. I went to the bathroom and just happened to look back down the hall, there stood my uncle waving his hands at me and shuffling his feet, a big smile on his face. Nothing wrong with that apart from the fact he'd died the week prior. He'd had several large strokes that left him crippled and unable to move. To me it was like him showing me he was happy and alright again. I turned away and logically thought, count to ten, turn back, and it would just be your mind playing tricks on you. He was still there when I turned back. I have never run so fast and dived back under the covers in all my life👻
To this day I still don't know was I dreaming, or I actually saw him.
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I never felt comfortable in my parents' house, which had long passages, and the sort of stairs where there is an area at the top where you can look down on anyone in the hall....I always used to feel that there was someone there looking at me when I came in the door.
When they went away, and I was alone in the house, I was always nervous for some reason to sleep there by myself. The long passage from the front to the back of the house was particularly worrying.
When my children were born, I was careful never to mention any of these things - why start making them frightened when there really wasn't anything to worry about - but my son has subsequently said that he always felt worried in the house, and that his fears were exactly the same as mine, when I'd never shared those with him.
I've researched the house, which was built at the end of the 19th Century, and has been lived in by comparatively few families.....but my parents were very very happy there, and very proud of it.
Never worried them!
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Hi IgorStrav
I always get that feeling in my hallway, its probably because of what happened though. But I always feel as if someone is behind me, I do get terribly scared at night going to bed, sometimes even running up the staircase, just incase :) Yet I know there's nobody there, I think our minds play tricks on us.
But who knows...
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I have seen our former residents at work. The best thing to do is just say hello.
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When I was first on my own after many years of marriage (divorce), I got myself a little loft apartment and was having a kip on the bed on a Sunday afternoon, and just in that drowsy period before you fall asleep I felt somebody patting my back and it was so REAL!! I was too spooked to turn over right away but when I did of course nobody was there, so I ran all over the place opening doors and cupboards even under the sink lol. I sometimes now wonder if it was my dad trying to comfort me because I did feel very soothed until my brain switched on!!
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Think some of us have experienced something in our life, whether it is our minds playing tricks or not. As a child I always felt I was being watched, but no one was there, my name being called and no-one there. The day before my mother's funeral I was having a lie down and just nodding off, to hear my name being called urgently. It wasn't Mr KHP as I could see him out on the farm and the kids were at school. Since that day the "voice" has remained silent. My friends have suggested that my late father had decided that it was time that he had Mum back in his life and his looking after me in the background had terminated.
Cheers
KHP
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After some years in a home, with dementia, my mum sadly died. My dad had devotedly visited her every day, and since she didn't know who he was, showed his ongoing love by making her a tiny jam sandwich each day (bread cut really thin, carefully buttered, then spread with just the right amount of jam, and cut into quarters)
We had all gathered round his house after her death and my family had just been saying to each other "poor Arthur", when, left on my own for a moment I heard, clear as a bell in my ear, my mother say - "poor Arthur? What about ME?"
It was just the thing she would have said
I wish I could hear her again. But I suppose I do every day in me.
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That's a beautiful memory to share with us IgorStrav :)
My father passed away four years ago this week. Everytime I visit my mum and walk in the lounge I see his armchair and hear him in his northern accent, as if he was there " Alright Claire luv ? "
He's not there, but I always hear him.
claire
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In 1999 when I started researching my family tree, my Sister and I went to St. John's Nfld. where my Father was born, to meet cousins and do research on the Paternal line...whilst looking for accommodation on the internet, I kept being drawn to the same quaint and very English looking B&B and decided that was where I would like to stay. When we arrived and explained the nature of our visit, the Landlady told us there was a very large Cemetery next door that would probably have some of our ancestors buried there. During a conversation with the landlady I learned that their Golden Retriever was called "Avalon" which was the name of the training ship my father was on in WW2.
The next morning I got up really early on a cold December morning and decided to take a look around the cemetery whilst waiting for my Sister to come down for breakfast...when I reached the door...the dog tried to follow me and the landlady said let her go with you, she's very intuitive and will look after you.
I hadn't been looking at gravestones long when I noticed that Avalon wasn't beside me...I then heard her barking and when I went to her she was sitting on my Grandparents grave wagging her tail...I fussed her and hugged her and sat a while on the curb surrounding the double grave hardly believing what the dog had done...then the dog went dashing off, took a rose out a stone pot on another grave and dropped it in my lap.
That dog slept outside my bedroomed door every night whilst I was there..even the owner couldn't believe it :o
Carol
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Oh wow Treetotal that has given me major goosebumps and teary eyes!!!
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Now that is a spooky tale Treetotal :o :o
really uncanny indeed :)
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Oh wow Treetotal that has given me major goosebumps and teary eyes!!!
I was the same when I was writing that...I do have a photo of the dog with the story of that morning in the file for my Father's Family.
I'm a sceptic on all things psychic but that incident has left me a little more open minded.
Carol
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By coincidence take a look at the name of the poster of the photo I have just repaired and look at my research interest for St. John's Nfld:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=748386.new#new
Carol
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Well then..... 😄😄
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Oh wow Treetotal that has given me major goosebumps and teary eyes!!!
Oh, me too. What a beautiful story.
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Not exactly a spooky tale but I've just found a very unexpected baptism for my 3 x g.grandfather in my old school church and had no idea they were from that area as it's a whole new branch opened up for me. I wonder if I'd have shown a little more interest in the school service if I'd known that. Probably not lol. ::)
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Not exactly a spooky tale but I've just found a very unexpected baptism for my 3 x g.grandfather in my old school church and had no idea they were from that area as it's a whole new branch opened up for me. I wonder if I'd have shown a little more interest in the school service if I'd known that. Probably not lol. ::)
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You sound a bit like me, Bee. I was bundled off to Sunday school for a few years as a young boy. I think I learned more from watching The Ten Commandments and Ben Hur with my father. I'm pretty sure Sunday school was my mother's idea.
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My mother died on the 27th of December and got buried New years eve ,my dad died 19th dec got buried 23rd dec ,we are 4 children ,one of my daughters was born on 13th dec the other was born new years eve ,my brother had a son the night my father died ,my other brother had 2 children on the day my father died ,they were not twins ,my sister had a son on the 15th of dec ,she also has a grandson on the 27th dec and the boy that was born on the 19th had a son born on the 22 nd ,all these children were born after my mother and father died ,christmas was not a time to look forward to ,then all the children came along and made it something to look forward to ......Marion
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Hi rarebit,
It's never a good time to lose a loved one at Christmas, I lost Grandparents at this time. But gosh, all those children born around the same time :o
It has to be a happy time now ~ to celebrate, I suppose, the new generation and remembering those you lost with fond memories :)
claire
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May not be a coincidence but it is still a hair raising moment. It is estimated that there are about 15 dead people for every person living. That I can believe, the dead outnumber the living many times over. So that is a lot of people to research for our hobby of genealogy, family history.
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I'll say ;D
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May not be a coincidence but it is still a hair raising moment. It is estimated that there are about 15 dead people for every person living. That I can believe, the dead outnumber the living many times over. So that is a lot of people to research for our hobby of genealogy, family history.
That's very interesting, Coombs. Given the increasing population, at some point surely the numbers are going to almost balance out.
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May not be a coincidence but it is still a hair raising moment. It is estimated that there are about 15 dead people for every person living. That I can believe, the dead outnumber the living many times over. So that is a lot of people to research for our hobby of genealogy, family history.
That's very interesting, Coombs. Given the increasing population, at some point surely the numbers are going to almost balance out.
Would take a while surely. Although there are more people than have been alive at any one time there are multiple generations of dead people.
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The numbers will never balance out.
As every person has two parents, and the parents have two parents making four grand-parents etc, etc , if we go back just 40 generations (at 25 years a generation that's just 1000 years) and assume no cousins marry each other you have 549,755,813,888 direct ancestors.
Apart from Adam & Eve, there will always be more people dead than alive.
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The numbers will never balance out.
As every person has two parents, and the parents have two parents making four grand-parents etc, etc , if we go back just 40 generations (at 25 years a generation that's just 1000 years) and assume no cousins marry each other you have 549,755,813,888 direct ancestors.
Apart from Adam & Eve, there will always be more people dead than alive.
and there are people complaining about overpopulation :P :P :P
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Claire.... I've been reading back over this thread and nearly fell off my chair when you mentioned 'Pinky and Perky'!!! We have this LP record, I think it was my Uncle's (He's a young Uncle and not THAT much older than me, lol). I haven't thought about it for years.
Back to the topic.... 2 years ago on a trip to the UK we were driving from Liverpool to London, a big day! Various stops along the way, Stonehenge, etc, and of course a couple of cemetery's. It was getting late in the day, about 8pm when we reached Lydiard Tregoze, Wilts and do you think we could find St. Mary's... nope. We were just about to give up when I finally saw the sign. We reached the church near Lydiard Park and of course, the church yard was locked! Oh well we could kind of see two of the headstone's we were looking for through the gates. A shame but good enough we thought. After loitering around for a while a lady came over and started chatting to us. We told her we were from Australia and just passing though and that my x5 great grandparents and many more grandparents before that were buried here and pointed to the headstone. Well that lady was the Vicar's wife picking up her kids from Scout's.... She unlocked the padlock and in we went...
Just in the right place at the right time!
Bitzar,
Melbourne.
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Hi bitzar
Well they say the Lord moves in mysterious ways. That's a lovely story :)
As for Pinky and Perky, I nearly fell off my chair when I read your post. That is a coincidence ;D
The words really meant a lot to me when it 'popped in my head' that day.
claire
Blackpool ;)
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Regarding the population question, yes it will take quite some time, and I did say "almost". Factor in longevity as well as the growing population, and it is not such a simple question, I believe.
Here's an interesting site: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
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Now that is a good site,
That's quite spooky watching those figures changing every second, giving me goosebumps :)
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Now that is a good site,
That's quite spooky watching those figures changing every second, giving me goosebumps :)
I know the feeling. The first time I was shown that site, I thought it was a fake.
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I know, I've had to read everything to appreciate what I was seeing.
I'ts frightening actually, to think everyone we know will end up on there for the briefest moment :o
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To quote, "Time is fleeting...." ;D
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You beat me to it... I was looking for a quote on G**gle ;D ;D ;D
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You beat me to it... I was looking for a quote on G**gle ;D ;D ;D
I think I saw the movie too many times. ;D
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I'm going to be singing that all day... ;D ;D
Madness is taking it's toll :o
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I think there must be about 70'000 million dead people, and 7'000 million living so yes the number will never balance out. Not going off topic here, lol, as it is a hair raising moment. Such a sheer amount of deceased.
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The numbers will never balance out.
As every person has two parents, and the parents have two parents making four grand-parents etc, etc , if we go back just 40 generations (at 25 years a generation that's just 1000 years) and assume no cousins marry each other you have 549,755,813,888 direct ancestors.
Apart from Adam & Eve, there will always be more people dead than alive.
I agree that there are more people dead than alive but for siblings, they have the same parents, grandparents, etc......
For first cousins they share half the same parents, grandparents, etc......
I have found since starting researching that many people are very possessive of their ancestors as if they are related to no-one else!
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Sounds like my uncle. My dad was named after their paternal grandfather and he was named after their maternal grandfather. He insisted that my Nana's family were not connected to me at all because they were "his family".
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Love it! ;D
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Another spooky coincidence:
my cousin went on a holiday to England, armed with all of our ancestral places. Going to Honiton, he tried to find a park in the main street so he could look around, especially for our ancestral inn. There was only one park left, so he decided to go into the wine shop that he parked in front of. He asked the owner if he knew where the Angel Inn was; imagine his surprise when the man told him he was standing in it! It was no longer an inn, but a shop and accommodation I believe.
When my cousin explained how our ancestors had once leased it, the man told him very cheekily that my cousin couldn't have it back.
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That's heir-raising spookiness indeed, pinefamily :o ;D :o
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Searching my mothers side of my family tree, I came across similar surnames (spelt differently)
of the mothers of my Grandad and Grandma - after a lot of research (well, I was a beginner!)
I found my two Grandma's were sisters. I had a tingling up my spine when I pieced it all
together.
I wish my mum was still alive to tell her.
Hazelnuts
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my 6x great grandmother died in 1867 on my "birth day" (in Knutsford, Cheshire) !
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Hi, I've just started researching my family tree and have the Harbord family on my dad's side going back to our family seat in Norfolk. Saw your post about the Kray twins and spookily my father (who also grew up in London) looked very much like Reggie Kray and my youngest son even more so. Wondered if you had found links to the Harbords? Also had Harbords in Great Yarmouth too.
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Working as a Nurse on Nights shifts, in various places (a couple of them old Workhouses) I've had a number of odd experiences, but one in particular happened at a Residential/Nursing Home with about 40 residents.
I was on shift with two staff, who were both upstairs helping someone. A buzzer went off, so I went to see the person who called, as I passed I noticed the gentleman next door had kicked his sheet & blanket off the bed. He was asleep and it was very warm, so I left him till after I saw to the other person. When I went back he was all very tidily tucked in (Nurse-style). No way could he have done this himself. When one of the other staff came down, I told her I didn't hear her do it. Open mouthed she told me neither of them had come down because they had been busy on other calls!!!!!
Absolutely no way could anyone else in the building have done it!
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I had a very spooky moment in a hospital as well, (first day back in the ward when I had my first child) I got up to go to the loo, glanced across at the red-headed new mother in the bed opposite me and thought she was dead! She was lying flat on her back with her big blue eyes wide open, and didn't answer when i asked her if she was OK. No response at all! I panicked and I buzzed for the nurse, and when she arrived, and looked at her, she laughed, and said " Don't worry, she's just sound asleep, she always sleeps with her eyes open! ;D ;D
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My mother died on the 27th of December got buried new years day 1968 ,my dad died on the 19 th December 1981 ,we are 4 children ,since my parents died iv e had 2 children one born December 13 th ,one on 31 st December ,I have a niece and nephew both born 23 rd of December
the day my dad got buried , different years ,a nephew born the night my dad died ,nephew on the 15 th ,one grandson born the day my mother died different year ,and another grandson of my brother On the 22 nd of December ,what's the odds of all those born in December after my mother and father died ,it's as if we needed something to make Christmas a better time for us