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Title: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Monday 11 April 16 18:39 BST (UK)
This thread has been split off from the following thread, in which the Osbornes are discussed several times:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=557435.0

I am interested in any connections/information etc about the Osborne family of Ballyhargan/Ballycarrigan near Dungiven (including those of Altmover House).  My ggg grandfather, Samuel Osborne McCausland (1800-1895) was the son of William McCausland and a Miss Osborne of Altmover. 

I’m not sure what Miss Osborne’s name was, but I have heard of one source (family papers in private hands) which have her as a daughter of Samuel C. Osborne and Mary Edwards, and granddaughter of the Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1709-1800). 

Samuel O. McCausland marred Jane Killen in 1825, and they were wed by a different Rev. Joseph Osborne.  This second one lived c1761-1849 and was a Presbyterian minister in Newtownards at the time.

There is some debate on how these two were related.  These two sources disagree on who the second Joseph’s father was.  I’d like to figure out which one is correct…

From George Speer’s tree, apparently taken from “Derry Standard May 1913. Reg. of Deeds. Books 270 p371, 344 p292, 473 p541, 587 p310”:

OSBORNE. The Rev. Joseph Osborne, minister of the old Newtownlimavady church from 1742 to 1800, lived at Drumadreen. His eldest son Samuel by his first wife married Mary, daughter of Dr. Henry Edward Edwards of Straw House, Bovevagh and they had a son, also called Rev. Joseph Osborne, who ministered in Corboy, Scriggan and Newtownards, married Mary Mease and had a daughter Jane who married William Osborne of Altmover House, Dungiven. The first mentioned Rev. Joseph Osborne of Newtownlimavady married again late in life and a great-grandson by this marriage was living in Terrydremond in 1913. They were connected with DODDS Family of Enagh, Limavady.

Posted here by Kingkerswell, taken from “the Presbytery of Limavady” by Julia E Mullin:

" The Rev Joseph Osborne was installed there on 14 Jun 1799. He was the second son of  William Osborne, a merchant in the parish of Bovevagh and his wife was a daughter of Dr. Edwards of Straw House , Bovevagh. The Scriggan minister was a relative of the Rev Joseph Osborne, minister of Newtownlimavady congregation  being either a grandson or a nephew. Educated at Glasgow, he was licensed by the presbytery of Londonderryin 1791 and ordained in Corboy on 16 Mar 1792. He Married Mary Mease of Gortin, Co. Donegal. The marriage settlement, made in March 1794 conveyed the townland of Ballyhargin (sic) to trustees to hold for Mary Mease, the intended wife of Rev Joseph Osborne of Bracklin, Co. Longford.
    On 9 June 1801 Mr Osborne accepted a call from Newtownards Non Subscribing Congregation and he remained a minister there until he retired in 1827. His only child, Jane had married William Osborne of Altmover near Dungiven but she died in 1839 aged only 37 leaving one surviving child. The rev Joseph died at his son-in-law's residence in Altmover on 13 December 1849."

Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 11 April 16 22:35 BST (UK)
What I’d like to do now is find the church marriage record (if one survives) because I’d like some proof that Samuel’s father was called William (as recorded by family tradition). 


Most church records for that date (if they survive) only list date of marriage and names of bride and groom. Unfortunately there are quite a few churches in Ballymena.
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 12 April 16 21:34 BST (UK)
Indeed, but it would be remiss of me not to try.

As you say, there are a few churches to choose from, but now I know it was in Ballymena, and I have a date to narrow it down.

I knew my Killens of Ballymena were mostly Presbyterian.  Jane’s brother James Millar Killen was the Presbyterian Minister in Comber, and another brother was the Rev. William Dool Killen, later professor of church history at Assembly’s College.

Rev. Joseph Osborne was also a Presbyterian minister … so I think I can be pretty certain they were married in a Presbyterian Church.  Other than First Ballymena, do you know which other churches were around at the time?
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 April 16 22:14 BST (UK)
Both James Millar Killen & William Dool Killen were lic. Ballymena. Presbyterian Historical Society, Belfast has copy of the Fasti of the Presbyterian Church which gives details of ministers so it might include their home church.

Only 2 Presbyterian churches in Ballymena itself in 1825 seem to be 1st (William Wauchope minister) and 2nd (High Kirk- William Campbell minister). Marriages in 1st go back to 1825 but 2nd only from 1845.
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 12 April 16 22:49 BST (UK)
Thanks, I guess I’ll hope it was in the First Presbyterian then.

I checked to see where Jane Killen’s siblings were married..

1825 – Edward was married at Ballymena by the Rev. William Stanhope.  I can’t find such a minister in the Presbyterian Society Fasti (thanks for reminding me about that), unless it is the “William Wauchope” who, as you say, was minister of First Ballymena 1812-1827.

1830/1831 – William and Sarah married in Ballymena in 1830 and 1831 respectively, both by the Rev. Alex. Patterson who was the minister of the West Church in Ballymena from 1830-1847.

Is the West Church the 2nd Presbyterian?

There are newspaper accounts in 1877 of a John Killen, an elder in Ballymena First Presbyterian, being given a silver platter before he headed off the Australia.  We have this cutting at home, so I know there’s a connection, though I’m not sure which John Killen it refers to.

So, I’m hopeful S McC and Jane Killen did marry in the First Presbyterian.  I’ll certainly add it to my list for next trip to PRONI (assuming they have the microfilm?).
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 13 April 16 08:48 BST (UK)
Is the West Church the 2nd Presbyterian?
No, 2nd Presbyterian also known as High Kirk.

PRONI have microfilmed records for 1st Ballymena (on several rolls which I think overlap with some parts better than others). Coleraine Library also have the same microfilms.
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: Brown1777 on Wednesday 13 April 16 22:56 BST (UK)
Gilby

Laurence Kirkpatrick's book - "Presbyterians in Ireland - An Illustrated History" - shows that the "Rev.William Killen was minister of Raphoe, County Donegal (1829 - 1841) and left to become Professor of Church History in Assembly's College Belfast". 

Earlier in the book it also shows a small photograph of "The Faculty of Presbyterian College c.1863 from left: Prof.W.D.Killen; Prof.J.L.Porter; Prof.H.Cooke(president); Prof.J.Edgar; Prof.W.Gibson; Prof.J.G.Murphy.
Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: Gilby on Thursday 14 April 16 18:29 BST (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey.

Thanks Brown ... that sounds like another book I should get my hands on.  I don't think I've seen that photo (there are a couple of him floating about).

The Rev. W. D. Killen was still at Belfast Inst. at the time his sister married Samuel O. McCausland.  He seemed to do quite well there, winning 'premiums' in several different subjects.  Here's a newspaper notice about his call to Raphoe:

Belfast Newsletter, 14 Aug 1829
Rev. W. D. KILLEN. --- We have great pleasure in stating, that on Monday last, the Rev. W. D. Killen, of Ballymena, was called to the Presbyterian congregation of Raphoe, by the unanimous votes of its members.  There was not on the occasion a single dissenting voice -- the call was given with the utmost cordiality and harmony, a circumstance which cannot but be gratifying to the distinguished young gentleman, who has thus been invited to the ministerial charge of that respectable congregation.  -- Mr. Killen is well known in Belfast, especially at the Institution, where he gained an eminence in the more profound as well as in the lighter departments of science, that has been equalled by but a few. If learning, talents, soundness of religious principle, and excellence of moral character, be recommendations, we can from personal knowledge congratulate the congregation of Raphoe on their choice of Mr. Killen.

I don't suppose the book mentions the Rev. Joseph Osborne of Corboy (1792-9), Scriggan (1799-1802), and Newtownards (1802-27)?  I'd really like to figure out who his father was.  If it was William Osborne he was probably a 1st cousin once/twice removed from Samuel McCausland - if he was the son of Samuel C. Osborne, then he may have been Samuel McCausland's uncle.

Title: Re: Re: Ferguson, Newton Limavady, Londonderry
Post by: Brown1777 on Thursday 14 April 16 21:41 BST (UK)
Gilby

The book does not mention the Rev.Joseph Osborne in Corboy (Longford) and Newtownards. However, he is mentioned under both Drumachose and First Limavady - the latter "was born out of strife within Drumachose congregation in 1742. A minority disapproved of Rev.Henry Erskine and, having obtained the deeds of the church building, they ordained Rev.Joseph Osborne under the auspices of the Non-subscribing Presbytery of Antrim".
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Friday 15 April 16 18:29 BST (UK)
Thanks again Brown.  Yes, that’s an earlier Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1709-1800).  I believe he is likely to be my 6xg grandfather.  I posted a little bit about him in the first post of this thread.

Basically, the problem I have is trying to figure out the relationship between him and the later Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1761-1849).

As I see it there are two competing theories, but perhaps neither are correct…

(Theory 1) Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1709-1800) had a son Samuel C Osborne who married Mary Edwards, daughter of Dr. Henry Edward Edwards of Straw House.  Samuel and Mary were the parents of the second Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1761-1849)

(Theory 2) Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1709-1800) had a brother or son called William who married Mary Edwards – and it was they who were the parents of the second Rev. Joseph Osborne (c1761-1849).


Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: rodneycurry on Thursday 19 October 17 07:58 BST (UK)
Hello, my 4Th great grandmother was Ann Osborne approx 1781  Altmover house Ballyharigan, she married Charles McClenaghen . There is a story which I uncovered at a local archive outside of Ottawa Ontario called " The history of Meighen and McLenaghen families by General F.S Meighen of Montreal. A McClenaghen married a Meighen in Perth Ontario. This Meighen family produced Arthur Meighen who was the Prime Minister of Canada for one short year. It is an interesting story, if you would like me to share it. It may clear up a few family lines or it may create further confusion. Apparently Ann was heir to Altmover estate, which the story leads one to believe may have been severed. I would love to know more about the area. I have only been to Ireland once, but did not visit the area as I was very unsure about the true proximity of the Osbornes and the MCClenaghens. My mother's grandmother was Janet Mcclenaghen.

This is my first visit to this site, and my first post, so bear with me please as I learn the protocol
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Thursday 19 October 17 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thanks for your reply.  Perfectly in line with protocol I think.

I would be very interested in reading more about the Meighan-McLenaghan connection.  I would send you a message with my email but we have to wait till you’ve posted 3-4 times before you can use the private messaging system (and you’re not allowed to post an email address publicly).

Does the document you found say much about Altmover house in Ballyharigan?  Does it mention who Ann’s parents were?

Gilby
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: rodneycurry on Thursday 19 October 17 22:08 BST (UK)
The document I mentioned, is in the form of a story. Ann's father according to the author may have been Simon, but I am leaning towards William.  THe reason for my choice of William is the naming of sons by both her daughter and son.I am sending a couple of the paragraphs of what is approx 7 page story, but only the first few pages pertain to the Osborns.
 

"In the district around Londonderry was a tract known as "Bovea lands" belonging in the 18th century, and probably earlier to a family names Carey. In this tract lived a family named Mclenaghen who leased the lands from the careys. According to the parish records the Mclenaghens had lived there-abouts for many generations, which is proved by a lease from captain Arthur Carey, dated 1726 to Robert Mclenaghen of "Ballycargan"of the whole townland of Ballycargan manor of Pellipan for 21 years. One of the witnesses of this lease was Samuel Osborne. Another lease by Rose, Captain's widow, to Henry Carey, of Lands in Boveva, had as witness Alex Mclenaghen of Dungiven and Robert Mclenaghen of Ballycargen.
Some of the Mclenaghens were schoolmasters and generally were people of superior education.

The Samuel Osborne mentioned above was a member of another family prominent in this district. They were originally English, coming from Leeds in Yorkshire, their name Osborne being the same as the family name of the Dukes of Leeds. Their estate in Ireland was called "Altmover" remained in their possession until the twentieth century, the estate being broken up in 1904.

I will post more from the story, once you reply


Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: rodneycurry on Saturday 21 October 17 09:13 BST (UK)
so, here is a bit of continuation of story.
Anne Osborne, a daughter of the family and heiress to the estate, married probably about 1790, charles Mclenaghan. There was opposition to the marriage by the Osborne family and it was an elopement, Anne Osborne was only 16 at the time, and ran away on a donkey,s back to be married. Her husband was somewhat older than she, and must have been born about 1760. They had a daughter Mary Osborne Mclenaghan, born 1795, and two sons, Nathaniel born 1800 and Charles born 1806, all born in Ireland.
Mary Osborne Mclenaghan was a woman of very high moral character. The superior education of the Mclenaghans showed itself in her purity of diction and innate refinement. She had great self-respect, was affectionate, emotional, and of a very strong family loyalty.

I hope to have someone respond, otherwise I will not continue, as mentioned before I was hoping that someone could help me locate where the families lived, the 1740, 1766, and 1796 returns all point to Ballyharigan
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 22 October 17 17:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Rodney,

That’s all very interesting – thanks for posting the extract.  This is the second reference I’ve seen suggesting these Osbornes were connected to the Dukes of Leeds.  Unfortunately, I doubt if I’ll ever join up enough dots to claim descent myself.

I wonder if your Anne Osborne was running off to marry her cousin.  The parents of the Rev Joseph Osborne (1709-1800) were supposed to be Samuel Osborne and Mary McLanaghan.  This also fits with Samuel Osborne being a witness to the lease of 1726 from Arthur Carey to Robert McLenaghan.

I think there was a run of William Osbornes at Altmover, so you may be right that one of them was the father of Anne.  I don’t see how it could be correct than Anne was the heiress to the estate though, because as far as I can see there was no shortage of sons in this family.

Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of records surviving for this area, so I’m not sure where to go from here.  I’ve still not been able to prove that my gggg grandmother “Miss Osborne” was of Altmover.

Perhaps the descendants of the Carey family have estate papers stored somewhere which will someday become available.

Gilby
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: rodneycurry on Monday 23 October 17 05:00 BST (UK)
 remember, this is a story by General F.S.Meighen, so I am assuming he was of truthful nature

so here is some continuation of story, but before the story, I have looked at 1740 protestant households,1766 religious census,and 1796 flax growers, 1831 census to confirm the Osborns and Mcclenaghans were in the vicinity. I did find charles in 1796, which would make sense for his age, and widow Mcclenaghan in 1831. I confer with you that I believe Ann married her cousin.

"If anyone attacked a member of her family, even if such member was not in favour with her, she was up in arms at once.  She was altogether a very superior type of woman.  The sons were very tall men, Nathaniel was dark and Charles fair and they were both of robust physique. They were loyal affectionate and industrious, but of violent temper when aroused. Nathaniel should have inherited the Osborne estate through his mother but, in his early manhood had a violent quarrel with an Osborne which led to blows and believing he had killed Osborne, he had fled the country, coming to Canada in 1830, and did not put in his claim when the time came for it, and the Altmover property, as Nathaniel's whereabouts or even his existence were unknown, passed to a younger branch of the Osbornes. They evidently were always fearful that some one might turn up to claim it. When Nathaniel's son James(Nathaniel was my 3rd gr grandfather) visited Altmover many years ago, a visit simply of curiosity, he was very coldly received and the possessors refused to discuss family history with him, referring him to their DUBLIN SOLICITOR(would it not have been belfast? or Londonderry?) for information he could get from the latter. It seemed as if they were doubtful of their position and to be afraid that James had come to make a claim for the estate

Charles McLenaghan, the younger brother, came to Canada in 1830 and settled at first in Perth. It would be interesting to know what decided him, an Irishman, to come to what was almost an exclusively Scotch settlement.He then sent for his mother, Anne Osborne Mclenaghan, to come and live with him, her husband having died meantime. She did so and lived on the farm until she died at the age of 85 in 1859.

"I am skipping parts of story that are probably of no interest to you"

The old Irish form of the name Meighen is Miadachin. There is a coat of arms, it means    He is stronger who conquers himself"

Mary Osborne Mclenaghan(this is Anne Osbourne's daughter) married Robert Meighen of Dungiven second son of Arthur Meighen and Jane Gordon, on January 24, 1824. This Robert Meighen farmed a holding of the Osborne's which was taken over by one of his brothers after his death on January 2 1838. It remained in the family until recently.  The house in which Robert Meighen and his family lived and where his children were born is still standing( I do not know what year this story was written, would you know if this house is still standing?? and where it would be??, as mentioned my husband and I are planning a trip to Northern Ireland in May, and I would love to take a picture) A photograph shows it to be a well-built roomy house of two stories. Arthur Meighen who married Jane Gordon about 1790 is the earliest name that can be traced in the Meighen family, but very little is known of him and practically nothing of his wife's family.  He was probably born about 1765 in the west of Ireland and was of yeoman class. He came to Boveva some time before his marriage. He had five sons and three daughters, Arthur the eldest. This younger Arthur Meighen was determined to be a soldier. Twice he enlisted and was brought back by his family. The third time they let him go. He was a very tall man standing 6 feet 4 inches and was in the Grenadier company of the 17th Royal Irish Regiment. He went with the British forces to China where he was killed in 1840.

That's it, the rest of the stories pertain to the family in Canada.

So, again, would appreciate if you knew were I could find Altmover estate area.

Debby


 
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: George_Speer on Thursday 06 February 20 17:50 GMT (UK)
Debby,
Ivan Smyth is the current resident of the Altmover house. 
I can show you images on Google Maps
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5143227#map=15/54.9374/-6.9923

I descendant of Margaret McLenaghan & Samuel Osborne by their son Wm.
George Daniel Speer Sr.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 09 February 20 11:47 GMT (UK)
Sorry, it looks like I wasn’t very helpful a couple of years ago when Debby was trying to find Altmover!  I must have forgotten to reply.  :-[

In the past week I’ve learned that my 3xg grandfather Samuel Osborne McCausland’s mother was Isabella Osborne, daughter of William Osborne.  This comes from an Osborne family bible.  I’m hoping to find out more in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Stormshaker88 on Tuesday 17 March 20 05:09 GMT (UK)
My name is Donna McLenaghan and my great great great grandmother was Ann Osborne and Robert Meighen was my cousin and the Arthur Meighen you are speaking of was Prime Minister of Canada for two terms. Arthur Meighen the Prime Minister was Robert Meighen's first cousin. I would love to talk more about this and learn more about my ancestors.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 17 March 20 09:42 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat, Donna  :)

When Gilby reads this, he will no doubt reply to you.

If you make at least one more post (just say Hi etc), you can use the Personal Message (PM) system for the exchange of personal data, such as e-mail address, with him/her.

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Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Donna!

Good to hear from you.  What is your line down from Charles McLenaghan and Ann Osborne (omit living people), and do you know anything more about their ancestors?  As Kiltaglassan says, you’ll be able to send personal messages after another post or two.

As far as I know, we’re still not certain who their parents were.  George Speer (who has also posted here) may correct me on that.

Last month I spent a bit of time trawling through the Registry of Deeds for mentions of the Osbornes and McClenaghans, and I did find quite a few.  Among other things, this turned up a link to Blair McClenaghan of Philadelphia and his brother(s).  I don’t think his hometown has previously been known.

I’ll post those extracts following this message.

Just to throw it out there – I have done DNA testing on FTDNA (data also on GEDmatch).

Regards,
Gilby
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:36 GMT (UK)
Book 66 / Page 432 / Number 47316
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHW-C99V-4?i=527&cat=185720
Memorial of an indenture of lease dated 2nd Nov 1730 between Henry Carey of Dungiven on the 1st part; Robert McClenaghan and Alexr. McClenaghan both of Ballycaragan, parish of Bovevey, Gents, on the 2nd part.  Carey leased to the McClenaghans the lands of Ballycaragan, in the manor of Philliper, Barony of Kenaght, to have and to hold for the lives of Alexander McClenaghan, Edward Carrey son to said Henry Carrey, and William Osburne [Osborne] of Ballycraggan.  Witnessed by Thomas Torrens and John Downing of Dublin Gent.


Book 152 / Page 395 / Number 102258
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNH-XS5M-Y?i=209&cat=185720
Memorial of a deed of lease dated 1st May 1746 between Lieut. Robert McClenaghan of Ballyhargan of the 1st part; Robert Osburn [Osborne] of Ballyhargan Gent of the 2nd part.  Whereby McClenaghan leased to Osborne the one quarter of Ballyhargan formerly possessed by John McCay (except that part of Ballyhargan called Teermilin [?] including garden, half an acre, and the house stead formerly occupied by Wm McClenaghan).  To have and to hold for the lives of the said Robert Osburn, Charles Sterling son of Charles Sterling of Gorteclare, and Samuel Long son of John Long of Dunronan, all in Co Londonderry, or 61 years, whichever lasts longer.  Said deeds contains several covenants and claises, including that Robert Osburn shall pay the yearly rents to Henry Torrens of Dungiven as guardian for Reba. McClenaghan wife of the sd Robt McClenaghan until the decease of said Rebecca.  And Robert McClenaghan does resign all privileges granted to him by the grand lease from Henry Cary Esq to the said Robert McClenaghan.  Witnessed by Geo. Osburn of Derryard, Co Londonderry, farmer; William McCay of Drum, Co Londonderry, farmer, now residing in America; and Charles Sterling of Gorteclare aforesaid.  Memorial witnessed by said Charles Sterling & Paul Limrick of Londonderry.  Registered by Charles Sterling, aged 53 or thereabouts, on 22nd Aug 1751.

Book 182 / Page 433 / Number 121456
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-3SNL-V?i=222&cat=185720
Memorial of a lease dated 8th Jan 1756 made between Lieut Robert McClenaghan of Ballyhargan on the 1st part; Samuel Osborn [Osborne] and William Osborn of Ballyhargan on the 2nd.  McClenaghan let to the Osborns the half quarter of Ballyhargan then and now in the possession of Samuel Osborn, for 61 years or the lives of said William Osborn, Robert Osborne son of Rev Joseph Osborn, and Samuel Sterling son to Charles Sterling of Gorticlare.  From the end of a former grant which the said Samuel Osborne holds from the said Robert McClenaghan from thenceforth fully to be completed and ended.  Witnessed by Alexr Sterling of Gorticlare, farmer, Malcolm Ferguson of Killyblughtin [??], farmer and Charles Sterling of Gortyclare, farmer, and William Ellett [Elliot?] of Ballyhargan, farmer.

Book 241 / Page 552 / Number 160912
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-DS7S-R?i=284&cat=185720
Memorial of lease dated 8th Jan 1756 between Lieut. Robert McClenaghan of Ballychargan on the 1st part, and Samuel Osborne of Ballychargan on the other.  Robert McClenaghan let to Samuel Osborne the half quarter of Ballyhargan which was then in the possession of said Samuel Osborne son of John Osborne of Ballyhargan, except the part known as Termolin [?] and Lakys [?] thereis excepted unto the sd Robert McClenaghan his own house and garden etc.  To have and to hold unto the said Samuel Osborne for 61 years commencing from the death of Rebecca McClenaghan wife to Robert McClenaghan aforesaid.  By said deed it is also agreed that Robert McClenaghan and his heirs give all rights and privileges in the chief grant which they held from Coll Henry Carey that is to say to give to Samuel Osborne for 61 years or the natural lives of said Samuel Osborne, Alexander Osborne son of John Osborn of Ballharagan aforesaid, and Robert McClenaghan son to Alexander McClenaghan all of Ballyharagan aforesaid.  Witnessed by Alexander Sterling of Gortenclare and Malcolm Ferguson of Killyblight [?], farmers.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:36 GMT (UK)
Book 232 / Page 450 / Number 153488
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-897F-5?i=245&cat=185720
Memorial of articles of bargain made the 28th Jan 1762 between Alexander McClenahan of Bellyhargan on the 1st part; Samuel Osburn [Osborne] and William Osburn of the same on the other.  Alexander McClenaghan lets one quarter of Bellyhargan to Samuel Osburn and his wife Margaret for their lives and unto William Osburn who is to give to Alexander four quarts of hott water spirits over and above the yearly rent for the first 6 years, whereby Alexander assigns unto William Osburn the said quarter of Bellyhargan.  Witnessed by Alexander Sterling of Gorteclare, farmer, Mary Coloni singlewoman and William Ellet weaver both of Ballyhargan.


Book 289 / Page 682 / Number 195073
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-99JC-5?i=371&cat=185720
Memorial of a sale dated 22nd Dec 1772 between Robert McClanechan of Ballychargan, yeoman, sojourning in the City of Philadelphia, Province of Pennsylvania on the 1st part; Blair McClannachan of Philadelphia on the other.  For £500 Pennsylavnia money, Robert sold Blair one undivided moiety of land in Ballychargan held on lease for three lives renewable, by grant from Arthur Carey Esq to Robert McClenachan, grandfather of said Robert McClenachan party hereto.  Said grant to be free of all incumbrances made by the Grantor (Robert), his grandfather Robert or his father Alexander.  Witnessed by Archibald McIlwain and James Hunter of Londonderry mariner and Lewis Weiss of Philadelphia scrivinor.

Book 296 / Page 314 / Number 196551
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-M35L-6?i=179&cat=185720
Memorial of a release dated 21st May 1773 between Robert McClenaghan of Ballyhargan Gent, only son and heir at law of Alexander McClenaghan late of Ballyhargan Gent deceased; and William Osburn [Osborne] of Ballyharagan, gent, of the other part.  Robert McClenaghan sold to William Osborne all that land known as Ballycaragan.  To have and to hold for the lives of Edward Cary, son to the said Henry Cary, now the Right honourable Edward Cary, and William Osburn party hereto.  Witnessed by George McClellan of Straw, Co Londonderry, Gent., Henry Sloan of the city of Londonderry, Gent, and Andrew McFarland, Hostler to Frans. [?] Dougherty of the Waterside, innkeeper.

Book 316 / Page 53 / Number 209756
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Memorial of a release dated 19th Oct 1776 between Robert McClenaghan of Ballychargan, Co Londonderry, Gent and Mary his wife on the 1st part; Blair McClenaghan of the city of Philadelphia on the other.  Said Robert McClenaghan granted to Blair McClenaghan one undivided moiety of Ballychargan, for the lives of the Rt Hble Edward Cary, William Osburn [Osborne] and Saml Osburn, renewable forever.  Witnessed by Robert McClenaghan of Mulcheragh, Co Londonderry, William Moore of the city of Londonderry, merchant, and Charles McClenaghan junior of Mossville in the Co of Tyrone, Gent.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:37 GMT (UK)
Book 402 / Page 355 / Number 265054
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Memorial of a sale dated 30th Oct 1788 between Arthur Blair of Strabane, Co Tyrone, innkeeper on the 1st part; James Galbraith of the city of Londonderry attorney of the other.  Blair sold to Galbraith the half of the lands of Ballyhargan sold to him by Blair McClenaghan of Philadelphia Esq. 

Book 473 / Page 541 / Number 309806
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Deed of marriage articles dated 25th March 1794 between Wm Osborne of Ballyhargin, Gent, and the Revd Joseph Osborne of Bracklin, Co Longford of the 1st part; Mary Mease of Gortin, Co Donegal, spinster of the 2nd part; William Law of Derry, Esq and John Mease of Strabane, Co Tyrone, gent, of the 3rd part.  William Osborne granted to William Law and John Maze his lands in Ballyharigan to suffer unto Mary Mease £18 annuity in case she survived her then intended husband the Rev Joseph Osborne, the said Joseph Osborne retaining the right to dispose of the said land among the children of said marriage.  Said Joseph Osborne also gave £300 to William Law and John Mease to be lent out for the purposes of making a fair provision for said Mary Mease in case she should outlive her husband.  Witnessed by the Rev John Law of Nanagher, Co Derry, and Thomas Stevenson of Lifford, Co Donegal attorney.

Book 597 / Page 55 / Number 405223
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Memorial of deed dated 26th Jan 1807 between Wm Osborne of Ballyhagan senior and Wm Osborne of Ballyhagan junior his 3rd surviving son.  William Osborne senior, for considerations therin mentioned and the love and affection for his son, granted to William Osborne junior one full undivided moiety of the townland of Ballyhargan to hold for the lives in the original lease, renewable forever.  Witnesses John and Joseph McCay of Drum, farmers. 

Book 587 / Page 310 / Number 398220
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Memorial of a conveyance dated 28th Jan 1807 between Wm Osborne of Ballyhargan, Senior on the 1st part; Samuel Osborne of Ballyhargan his eldest son surviving of the other part.  William Osborne, for the considerations therein mentioned and the love and affection for his son did grant to Samuel the part of the Croft formerly occupied by the late Robert Osborne and one acre of the Croft north of the mearing, and also all the fields south of said Samuel’s house and as now occupied by him and his undertenants with all the woo and pasture thereunto belonging and also Di?muchstavil [??] and the stock farm with also all the houses and lands now in the possession of Joseph Osborne, Jacob Douglas, John Gamble, George Eless, John Calhoun, and Ephraim Capbell and their undertenants all said lands and tenements lying and being in the townland of Ballyhargan.  To hold said Samuel Osborne for the lives in the original lease, renewable, subject to certain clauses etc.  Witnessed by William McCausland of Dungiven, innkeeper and James Early of Ballyhargan yeoman.  Memorial witnessed by said James Early and Alexander Boyle of Newtownlimacady.

Book 592 / Page 540 / Number 405908
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Memorial of marriage settlement dated 9th Feb 1807 between William Osborne Junr of Ballyhargan on the 1st part; George Ledle of Ballygonny parish of Tamlah on the 2nd part; Martha Ledlie of Ballygonny daughter of the said George Ledlie on the 3rd part.  Wm Osborne grants to George Ledlie his one undivided moiety of Ballyhargan for the use of said William Osborne and after his death for his future wife Martha Ledlie and their issue.  Martha to have a jointure of £30pa.  Witnesses James Crawford Ledloe of Doneygore [Donegore] Co Antrim and John Hamilton of Ballygonny farmer.  Memorial executed by said William Osborne in the presence of said John Hamilton and George Ledlie Jnr of Ballygonny.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:37 GMT (UK)
Book 55 / Page 305 / Number 37052
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Memorial of a lease dated 17th January 1716 [possibly a miss-transcription of 1726] between Captain Arthur Cary of Derryard on the 1st part, and Robert McClenaghan of Ballycargan on the other, both of the manor of Pelliper.  Cary let to McClenaghan the whole townland of Ballycargan (with some exceptions) for 21 years from 1st Nov 1726.  Rent of £50, twelve day’s labour of man and horse or 12 shillings, two fat muttons or five shillings, twelve hens or four shillings, plus service at the courts of the manor, and grinding corn etc at the mill of the manor.  Witnesses Christopher Taffe of Derryard, gent, Bryan O‘Cahan of Dungiven, gent, and Samuel Osburne [Osborne] of Ballycargan, gent.  Memorial affected by Robert McClenaghan in the presence of said Samuel Osburn, and John Reilly of the city of Dublin, Gent.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:38 GMT (UK)
Book 707 / Page 61 / Number 484196
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Memorial of a deed of assignment dated 28th Jun 1810 between James Boyle of Banbrook [?] in the Co of Londonderry on the one part; and Wm Osburne [Osborne] junr of Ballyhargan on the other.  Boyle granted to Osburne the woods in Ballyhargan called Altmover Wood (except that part thereof then in the possession of Samuel Osborne) forever.  Witnessed by John Campbell of Dungiven and Hu [?] Boyle of Ballygeine [?].

Book 707 / Page 62 / Number 484197
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Memorial of a lease and release dated 18th Jun 1810 between James Boyle of Banbrook [?] on the one part; and Samuel Osborne of Ballyhargan on the other.  Boyle sold to Osborne the wood known as Altmover Wood in the townland of Ballyhargan.  Witnessed by Hu. Boyle of Ballyguin [?] and John Campbell of Dungiven.

Book 719 / Page 260 / Number 491595
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Memorial of a deed dated 18th Sep 1817 between John Hopkins and Samuel Hopkins of Ballyhargan on the one part; Wm Osborne also of Ballyhargan on the other.  Hopkins sold to Osborne for £70 their lease of land in Ballyhargan held under the said Osborne.  Witnesses John Gamble senior and John Gamble junior.

Book 751 / Page 176 / Number 510711
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Memorial of a lease and release dated 15th and 16th Dec 1818 made between Samuel Osborne of Ballyhargan, gent on the 1st part; the Rev Joseph Osborne of Newtownards on the 2nd; and James Douglass of Ardnariff, Co Londonderry on the 3rd.  In consideration of an agreement between Samuel and Joseph Osborne, and £10 paid by James Douglass to Samuel Osborne, said Samuel Osborne agreed to sell to Douglass that part of the Croft formerly occupied by the late Robert Osborne, and one acre of the Croft north of the mearing in said Croft, and also the fields south of said Samuel’s house, and also Dermackstavil [??] ad=nd he stock farm with all the appurtenances belonging thereto, and also the houses and lands then as lately in the possession of Josh Osborne, Jacob Douglass, John Gable, George [?] Ellis, John Colhoon and Ephraim Campbel and their undertenants.  All said lands and tenements being in the townland of Ballyhargan held by lease for lives renewable forever under Henry Cary Esq deceased.  And also that part of the said Ballyhargan commonly called the Altmover Wood then in the possession of said Samuel Osborne.  All premises to hold unto James Douglas for lives renewable, subject to the chief rent, upon trust for the uses, intents and purposes mentioned and contained in the said deed [not listed in the memorial].  Witnessed by Henry O’Kane Cross town [?] of Dungiven, and William Osborne of Ballyhargan.

Book 768 / Page 431 / Number 521166
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Memorial of deed of reconveyance dated 5th Jan 1822 between Jenry Blacker of Millburn, Co Londonderry Esq on the 1st part; William Osborne of Ballyhargan Gent and the Rev Joseph Osborne of Newtownards on the 2nd; Robert Gray of Dungiven Gent on the 3rd.  Henry Blacker, in pursuance of agreements therein, and £800 paid by Robert Gray, being proper monies of the said William Osborne and the Rev Joseph Osborne, did grant unto said Robert Gray 100a in Ballyhargan townland, reserving the right for Henry Blacker to carry on quarrying.  [Plus various other incomprehensible legal stuff.]  Witnesses Robert McNaghten of Coleraine, and John Boyle of Dungiven.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Tuesday 17 March 20 17:38 GMT (UK)
Book 770 / Page 116 / Number 522051
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Memorial of a deed dated 5th Jan 1822 between Robert Gray of Dungiven, Gent on the 1st part; William Osborne of Ballyhargan, Gent, and Rev. Joseph Osborne ot Newtownards, on the 1nd part; and Henry Blacker of Milburn Esq on the 3rd.  Robert Gray granted to Henry Blacker the freestone quarries on the lands of Ballycarrigan otherwise Ballyhargan.  Witnessed by Robert McNaghten and John Boyle attorneys at law.

Book 772 / Page 427 / Number 523562
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Memorial of a deed of appointment dated 15th Apr 1822 between the Rev Joseph Osborne of Newtownards on the 1st part; Jane Osborne of Newtownards spinster, the elder daughter of said Joseph on the 2nd part; and Elizabeth Margaret Osborne of Newtownards, spinster, the younger daughter of the said Joseph of the 3rd part.  Joseph Osborne (according to the powers granted to him by a deed dated 25th Mar 1794 between William Osborne since deceased and said Joseph Osborne on the 1st part, and Mary Mease therein named of the 2nd part, and William Law and John Mease of the 3rd part) grants that part of Ballyhargan townland known as Tyrmalin Knocknalara Keane’s division on/or Cornamony Springhill Monanaloughagh and that part known by the name of the Old Town of Ballyhargan occupied by William Osborne the younger brother of said Joseph, James Thomson and Henry McClosky, together with the farms formerly held by John Hopkins and Matthew Cook, also the lands and premises then in the occupation of Samuel Osborne the elder brother of said Joseph with the dwelling house theron, and the farms held by Jacob and James Douglas and Samuel Early together with all houses etc theron.  To hold the said Jane Osborne from and after the decease of said Joseph Osborne in as full a manner as held by him, for lives renewable.  And further, the said Joseph Osborne did appoint unto the said Elisabeth Margaret Osborne as her share of Ballyhargan that part of lands then in the possession of John Gamble, George Ellis, Ephraim Campbell and John Colhoun together with that part known by the name of the Stockfarm and Dirmuckstavel then in the occupation and possession of the said Joseph Osborne.  To hold unto the said Elizabeth Margaret Osborne in as ample a manner as they were held by the said William Osborne deceased, for lives renewable.  Said lands subject to the payment of £18 annuity to the said Mary Mease otherwise Osborne the wife of the said Joseph during her natural life in case she survives Joseph.  Witnessed by Rev William Mortimer clerk and James Kirkpatrick both of Newtownards.

Book 772 / Page 428 / Number 523563
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Memorial of a deed of conveyance dated 17th Apr 1822 between the Rev. Joseph Osborne of Newtownards on the 1st part; Jane Osborne of Newtownards spinster the elder daughter on the 2nd part; and William Osborne of Ballyhargan Gent brother of the said Joseph, on the 3rd part.  Joseph Osborne and Jane Osborne, according to their respective titles, did grant unto William Osborne all that part of Ballyhargan townland known as Tyrmalin Knocknalara Keane’s division on/or Cornamony Springhill Monanaloughagh and that part known by the name of the Old Town of Ballyhargan then occupied by the said William Osborne, James Thompson and Henry McCloskey, together the farms formerly held by John Hopkins and Mathew Cook.  Subject only to the annuity of £18 payable to said Joseph Osborne and after his death to his wife Mary Mease otherwise Osborne during her life.  And after both their deaths then payable to the said Jane Osborne and her sister Elizabeth Margaret Osborne during the continuance of the lease renewable forever, reserving their right to cut turf etc to be spent on said Joseph and Jane Osborne’s remaining part of the said town and lands of Ballyhargan (not thereby granted).  Witnessed by Rev. William Mortimer clerk and James Kirkpatrick gent both of Newtownards.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Kakariki2 on Monday 31 May 21 05:06 BST (UK)
Sorry, it looks like I wasn’t very helpful a couple of years ago when Debby was trying to find Altmover!  I must have forgotten to reply.  :-[

In the past week I’ve learned that my 3xg grandfather Samuel Osborne McCausland’s mother was Isabella Osborne, daughter of William Osborne.  This comes from an Osborne family bible.  I’m hoping to find out more in the coming weeks.


My great-grandmother was Isabella Maise Osborne Anderson she was, I believe, the Granddaughter of Samuel Glenn and (possibly) Mary McCausland. Mary being the daughter of Isabella Osborne.
I would like to find out more about the Osborne family bible – hoping it may confirm some family linkages.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: kingstondonaldson981 on Sunday 31 October 21 08:44 GMT (UK)
I got saw your post on Google, as I was researching the Osborne/Scott families. My 3rd G Grandmother was (born 1798) Catherine Scott/Mrs William Donaldson from the Donagheady Church/Parish area. Her parents were Mrs Osborne and Alexander Scott. I know nothing about her background. I am also researching another Donaldson family. Rev. Nehemiah Donaldson (1685-1747) who preached in Castlederg, who had a daughter Ann (1710/15-1787) who married Mathew Edwards. Same Edwards family who married into the Osbornes. I have no cause to believe at this point the two Donaldson lines are related. But they are both connected to the Edwards family, so it is something I am researching right now. I just received a copy of the Edwards family tree and will be reviewing it shortly. On a closing note, Catherine Scott Donaldson's first child was named Samuel. Another bit of information that might be relevant. I can be reached directly at                 , if anybody has any background information for me, appreciated.   

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Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: kingstondonaldson981 on Wednesday 10 November 21 12:47 GMT (UK)
I am writing again to clarify some facts from my first post, and to address "Gilby"; my 3rd G Grandmother was Catherine Scott/Mrs William Donaldson, her father was Alexander Scott & Mrs Osborne--some people have given her the name Nancy Osborne some Martha, I understand why now. Both were daughters of Samuel Osborne & Mary Edwards. Mary Edwards, daughter of Henry Edwards & his wife Mary (who was widowed when her 1st husband an Osborne passed away). Then her daughter Mary wed Samuel Osborne. If I understand your previous posting, that makes us cousins through Samuel & Mary Edwards. You stated one of their daughters was your grandmother?Mary Edwards, wife of Samuel Osborne & daughter of Henry Edwards, had an G Aunt Ann Donaldson, who married her father Henry's brother Mathew Edwards. Ann Donaldson/Mrs Mathew Edwards was a daughter of Rev Nehemiah Donaldson. Rev. Donaldson had known two kids, Ann & a son John Donaldson who became a Doctor----I believe that John Donaldson born around 1720, to be my 5th G Grandfather....Hoping we can communicate soon.
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 05 December 21 13:11 GMT (UK)
My great-grandmother was Isabella Maise Osborne Anderson she was, I believe, the Granddaughter of Samuel Glenn and (possibly) Mary McCausland. Mary being the daughter of Isabella Osborne.
I would like to find out more about the Osborne family bible – hoping it may confirm some family linkages.

Just to confirm for anyone looking on, I have been in touch with Kakariki, whose ancestor Mary Glenn née McCausland was indeed a daughter of my 4x g grandparents William McCausland and Isabella Osborne.  He is also a DNA match to one of my McCausland cousins.

Also now working on bottoming out the connection to Mr. Donaldson who posted above!
Title: Re: Osbornes of Ballyhargan, Dungiven
Post by: alison.claire on Tuesday 06 December 22 22:03 GMT (UK)
Hello All!

We have the same history crazy! I followed a rabbit hole to here. We have the same printed information in our family that has been passed down and have no idea where it came from.. Fascinating! Are we all entitled to a castle in Ireland? Because thats been the joke in our family for years!

While very unlikely, would be insanely cool to go see this....property?? Pile of stones? Some day. We can all share its location and grab photos there to add to our ancestry for the next generation.
 
Our family has a real romeo&juliet, murder mystery vibe and it ends up being connected to the history of one of our old prime ministers of Canada! WILD.

Gilby thank you SOO much for all your hard work on this. Please if anyone here would like to travel this rabbit hole more with me, I would love to connect and dig deeper.

I am of the Meaghan / Downey bloodline.

Thanks Famjam!

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