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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: juleznz on Sunday 24 April 16 09:38 BST (UK)
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Hi evryone my grandmother was Ruth MOLLARD born Canada i know not where
She was in RCAF during war as a waf? Canadian air force sgt reg no W302161
I believe she was born around 1923-24 and married a Kiwi in 1945
I was adopted so this is a new search and ive had no experience with Canadian Archives so any help would be fantastic many thanks Julie-Ann
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Just a thought - I wonder if this might be Ruth in the 1930 USA census living in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan and born Canada 1924 ??
Robert B Mollard 30 Carpenter b Canada
Mable L Mollard 27 b Iowa
Ruth P Mollard 6 Canada
Phyllis A Mollard 3 Minnesota
Kay
Added - the image census is viewable here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X79Q-TSJ
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Hi :) Thanks for your reply i have no way of knowing at this stage was hoping canada has war service records available but havent found any yet
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U.S., Records of Aliens Pre-Examined in Canada, 1904-1954 - Ruth P Mollard - 3 months old - born 1923 Moose Jaw Saskatchewan - examination date 20 March 1924 Winnipeg Manitoba. Father Robert - farmer.
U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 - March 1924 - Ruth Mollard - 3 months old. Going to Delkuth Minnesota with father Robert Mollard aged 24 years. Brother Oswald Mollard resided 2303 2nd St W Duluth Minnesota.
Sandra
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wow thank you both that looks promising..one thing is ruth called her daughter lillian mabel so maybe after her mum
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IF this is the correct family - the mother Mabel Lucile Mollard (nee Chipman) born 7 September 1902 Iowa passed away 4 August 1955 Essondale British Columbia. Wife of Robert Mollard. Cremation Burnaby- Cemetery Ocean View. Informant Provincial Mental Hospital, Essondale BC. (Anna Glasscock was her mothers maiden name - father was Frank Oscar Chipman)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SR3-QHK?mode=g&i=2905&wc=S62Q-BZ9%3A1069422601%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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The birth record for Phyllis Ann Mollard in Minnesota born 16 July 1926 gave the mothers maiden name as Chipman - father Mollard - Certificate Number: 1926-53254.
The California Death Index shows a Phyllis Ann Alexander born 16 July 1926 Minnesota passed away 24 July 1980 Ventura California. Mothers maiden name Chipman, father Mollard.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP86-12Z
SSDI - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JG4C-G22
Sandra
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Father Robert Birrell Mollard - born 5 May 1899 Regina Saskatchewan passed away 25 August 1975 Vancouver British Columbia aged 76 years - widowed - had been a security officer - informant was Margaret Hesthamer (sister) 2 - 6347 West Blvd Vancouver British Columbia.
Cremation - Garden Chapel Ocean View Cemetery Vancouver British Columbia - 25 August 1975
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61YZ-V7?mode=g&i=2659&wc=S62F-929%3A1069441901%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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cool thank you seems 2 sets of robert and mabels
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Robert Birrell Molard was born 5 May 189 Regina Saskatchewan - father Robert Mollard and mother Helen Mason Motion -
1921 census Long Mountain Saskatchewan shows Robert or Birrell with parents and siblings
Robert Mollard 57 Born 1864 Ontario.
Helen Mollard 42 Born 1879 Scotland.
Birrell Mollard 21 Born Sask. Rancher.
Oswald Mollard 20 Born Saskatchewan 1901.
Margaret Mollard unclear of the age.
Sandra
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It looks to be the same couple to me - why do you say 2 couples ???
Sandra
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The mother of Robert Birrell Molard - Helen Mason Mollard born 25 November 1877 also passed away in North Vancouver British Columbia 26 February 1956 - aged 78 years - widowed - father George Motion - mother Georgina Fortune. Burial Vancouver Masonic Cemetery 29 February 1956 - Margaret E Mollard was the informant -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1M7-CC?mode=g&i=701&wc=S62Z-FMS%3A1069422701%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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Robert Molard Snr born 27 January 1863 passed away 25 August 1933 Vancouver - resided 557 West 17th Avenue - retired rancher - father Thomas Mallard - informant Miss I Mollard (which must be Isabel as on the 1916 census Saskatchewan)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4WS-TS7?mode=g&i=1236&wc=S62S-ZNL%3A1069418501%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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1916 Census shows Isabel Molard (informant on her fathers death cert) - 02, Last Mountain, Saskatchewan.
Robert Mollard 51 Helen Mollard 40
Biniel Mollard 17 (this is Robert)
Oswald Mollard 15 Isabel Mollard 13
Ethel Chandler 30
Sandra
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1906 Census Qu'Appelle Saskatchewan shows Mabel with her family
Frank Chipman 43
Anna G Chipman 36
Cathrine G Chipman 12
Josie B Chipman 10
Mabel L Chipman 4 Born United States. Imm 1903.
and in 1911 Assiniboia Saskatchewan
Frank Chipman 47 Anna F Chipman 41
Josie B Chipman 14 Mable Chipman 5
1916 20, Weyburn, Saskatchewan
Frank O Chipman 52 Anna Chipman 46
Jessie B Chipman 19
Mable L Chipman 13 Born US -
Clifford Chipman 4
1921 23 41 Lorne St Regina Saskatchewan - Mabel a lodger with the Kirk family
Ernest L Kirk 30 Amy P Kirk 30
Marion G Kirk 6 Hugh Kirk 9 months.
Jean Mcklan 18
Ernest Cochrane 25
Mabel Chipman 19 Stenographer.
Canh Burke 20
Maud Cleverley 22
Joshua Reynolds 25
My Reynolds 23
Sandra
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but how can the Mabel Lucile Mollard (nee Glasscork) be the Mabel Chipman? simialr spouse names and children but different death dates and lives? i may have read it wrong il go look thru what urve posted thanks heaps :)
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As explained earlier - Glasscock was the maiden name of Mabels mother Anna.
Chipman was her fathers name (Frank Oscar Chipman) - reply 7
Sandra
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Iowa marriage record for Frank Oscar Chipman aged 26 years and Anna Glasscock - 28 February 1889 - Carroll, Iowa, USA - father of Frank - Marlou S. Chipman and Mother Gelty Ann Spurgeon.
Parents of Anna - Joseph Glasscock - Mother - Lizzie Shulty
Sandra
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Frank Oscar Chipman (father of Mabel) also died in British Columbia - born 10 April 1862 and passed away 6 October 1948 - West Coast general hospital British Columbia - retired - name of wife Sarah Ann Glasscock - burial Greenwod Cemetery -
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hip/
Sandra
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im still confused you wrote -the mother Mabel Lucile Mollard (nee Glasscork) born 7 September 1902 Iowa which would make her right age to be ruths mum but then you say The birth record for Phyllis Ann Mollard (poss Ruths sister)in Minnesota born 16 July 1926 gave the mothers maiden name as Chipman - father Mollard then Glasscock was the maiden name of Mabels mother Anna.
Chipman was her fathers name (Frank Oscar Chipman im lost sorry
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Sarah Chipman - born 4 May 1870 passed away 4 June 1955 aged 85 years - Colwood, British Columbia - widowed - father Joseph Glasscock and mother Elizabeth Schultz - Spouse Frank Oscar Chipman.
Burial Mountain View Alberni BC - information given over the phone by daughter in Banff - Alta
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SRS-JQZ?i=2353&wc=S62Q-BZ9%3A1069422601%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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Restrictions would apply to the service records from WW2 - military service files (1919-1997), including Second World War (not killed in action) access restrictions apply. The personal information contained in the service files are protected by the provisions of privacy legislation. Have a read here.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/Pages/obtain-copies-military-service-files.aspx
Sandra
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thanks so much thats so much to go on :) awesome
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You're very welcome. Pleased to have helped.
Sandra
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Update Thanks so much for the help i have verified all that you gave me and more..the CHIPMAN line coming out of The Mayflower in 1621...Still no further on Robert MOLLARD snr but hes always on the keep looking list :)
You're very welcome. Pleased to have helped.
Sandra
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Excellent news. Pleased it all helped.
Regards
Sandra
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From the info on the 1924 border crossing we can assume that Ruth MOLLARD was born in December 1923 or January 1924 in Moose Jaw Saskatchewan. Robert travelling with a 3 month old child with no wife along gives me a very strong suspicion that Ruth's mother died in childbirth or shortly afterwards. This means that Mabel CHIPMAN was likely Ruth's stepmother. If you don't mind paying the high cost charged, you should apply for the marriage certificate of Robert Birrell MOLLARD and an unknown female assuming the marriage occurred between Apr 1921 and Dec 1923. Certificates can be ordered through here https://www.ehealthsask.ca/residents/genealogy/Pages/default.aspx
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From the info on the 1924 border crossing we can assume that Ruth MOLLARD was born in December 1923 or January 1924 in Moose Jaw Saskatchewan. Robert travelling with a 3 month old child with no wife along gives me a very strong suspicion that Ruth's mother died in childbirth or shortly afterwards. This means that Mabel CHIPMAN was likely Ruth's stepmother.
Sorry, I disagree - Robert or Birrell was single in the 1921 Census Saskatchewan - as to was Mabel Chipman in Saskatchewan and according to the 1930 Census 8 Part of Precinct 7 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan given in reply 1 - Robert was first married at age 23 years - Mabel was first married at age 20.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRHD-SRJ?mode=g&i=25&cc=1810731
Mabel Mollard, Ruth Mollard and Robert crossed the border departing 20 March 1924 arriving 21 March 1924 Pembina, Minnesota and North Dakota
Sandra
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My bad, Mabel did cross the border with Robert & Ruth but was registered separately because of her US citizenship. Never thought of searching for her separately for border crossing.
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I am Cathy McPherson the daughter of Phyllis Ann Mollard (then married Robert Alexander), her sister was Ruth Mollard that married a New Zealand Airforce pilot Athol Cresswell after the second world war and immigrated to New Zealand where she raised Dennis, David, Leonard, and Lillian. I know a good deal about our family, and several individuals within Canada and myself have a good deal of family information we can provide. So perhaps we know each other already.
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Hi Cathy :) i posted this a year ago when i first started researching this branch.Since then ive made strides into family tree and have recently had contact with aunty Elva
good to hear from you
julez
I am Cathy McPherson the daughter of Phyllis Ann Mollard (then married Robert Alexander), her sister was Ruth Mollard that married a New Zealand Airforce pilot Athol Cresswell after the second world war and immigrated to New Zealand where she raised Dennis, David, Leonard, and Lillian. I know a good deal about our family, and several individuals within Canada and myself have a good deal of family information we can provide. So perhaps we know each other already.
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So you are to me an unknown family member. How are you related? I don't do much genealogy but always interested in family and I have a nephew that sent me your original post. I am sure if you have talked to Elva - my cousins (ex) wife, you also have information on how to contact Louise Ames which recently wrote me " I am Louise Mollard, daughter of James Oswald Fortune Mollard and Helen Campbell. My dad was a brother of Birrell, Isabelle and Margaret,..." she has an extensive family history documented. You may also wish to contact Margaret Hesthammer that has a wonderful memory and lives on Gabriola Island. We saw her last year and even though quite frail with her advanced age is delightful resource. You may e-mail me or call if you wish but I don't think we are suppose to post this information on this site. Elva will have my contact information.
Back in the day the borders were not secure and ranchers/farmers quite often utilized land on both sides of the borders. The same is true of my father's family that was sheep ranching - a few of my father's brother and sisters were born in Canada others were born in the US.
Cathy
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Thank you i am Athols Grandchild..ive tracked 13 generations of Ruths family tree so you are my birth mum Lilians cousin
So you are to me an unknown family member. How are you related? I don't do much genealogy but always interested in family and I have a nephew that sent me your original post. I am sure if you have talked to Elva - my cousins (ex) wife, you also have information on how to contact Louise Ames which recently wrote me " I am Louise Mollard, daughter of James Oswald Fortune Mollard and Helen Campbell. My dad was a brother of Birrell, Isabelle and Margaret,..." she has an extensive family history documented. You may also wish to contact Margaret Hesthammer that has a wonderful memory and lives on Gabriola Island. We saw her last year and even though quite frail with her advanced age is delightful resource. You may e-mail me or call if you wish but I don't think we are suppose to post this information on this site. Elva will have my contact information.
Back in the day the borders were not secure and ranchers/farmers quite often utilized land on both sides of the borders. The same is true of my father's family that was sheep ranching - a few of my father's brother and sisters were born in Canada others were born in the US.
Cathy
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I ran across an old post and just touching basis. I am Cathy Lee McPherson, one daughter of Phyllis Ann Mollard (married name Alexander), that is the sister of Ruth Patricia Mollard. I have some history of the family, some photos, some knowledge of other family members from Ruth's children and grandchildren. I will be glad to assist with information. This is a new platform for me (Rootschat). I do see that I have posted things in the past years ago, but didn't recall doing so. My 74 year old mind is a bit fuzzy about the history. I did go visit Ruth and the kids when I was 17, and again a visit to Ruth and Stuart after I married my husband, a few years before she passed. I live in Pocatello, Idaho, USA. Feel free to contact me. Cathy