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Title: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 30 April 16 14:14 BST (UK)
I am seeking more information about the family of Robert DEVERAL baptised 29 Jul 1804 in Trowbridge.  (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
He married Virtue Paine 27 Aug 1820 at St. James Trowbridge who died 1q 1844 Melksham 8 312.

I believe that they had a son Frederick Deverall and daughter Mary Jane Deverall who were baptised 6 Jun 1841 in Trowbridge.

Have the 1841 to 1861 censuses information about the children?

Also was this Robert DEVERILL the same person born about 1801; if so who did he marry?

Marriages Dec 1845   (>99%)
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BEAVEN    Sarah        Melksham 8   698
BIGWOOD    Thomas         Melksham 8   698
CHAMBERLAIN    Caroline         Melksham 8   698
DEVERILL    Robert         Melksham 8   698
ROSE    Mary Ann         Melksham 8   698
SELFE    Samuel         Melksham 8   698
TAYLOR    Job         Melksham 8   698
TILEY    Susannah         Melksham 8   698

Muffin41

Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 14:47 BST (UK)
Is this Robert Deverell age 57 given a birth year about 1794 b Towbridge in the workhouse as a pauper his occupation was weaver ...Hard to make out but looks like Leimington Workhouse Melksham Wiltshire

1871 1881 census looks like he was living with one of his sons William you might have this information
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 30 April 16 14:52 BST (UK)
I do not have much information; I have a William Born about 1830 :-\ which may be the one you found in the 1871 and 1881 censuses Rosie.

Can you give details of the 1871 census please?

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:08 BST (UK)
This looks like second marriage for Frederick Deverall age 53 Widower occupation woollen draper address 77,Moreland Street father Robert Deverall ( weaver )
Spouse Eliza Humphreys age 42 widow ...They married 8 October 1889 St Barnabas Finsbery Islington ..One of the witnesses was Emily Virtue Deverall

First marriage 2 June 1861 St John the Evangelist Walworth
Frederick Deverall full age grocer father Robert Deverall cloth weaver
Married Emily Kettle age 18 will post details of census records
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:19 BST (UK)
1871 census for Fredererick Deverell age 32 b Trowbridge address Old Street St Barnabas Holburn London occupation looks like clothmaker
Emily Deverell age 29
Children all born London George 9.Emily 7. Alfred 5, Albert 3..Philip Payne age 35 ( cousin )
Piece 398 Folio 18
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:42 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie; you have been a great help. :D

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:43 BST (UK)
1881 census William Deverell age 50 Greenwich Pensioner ..grocer b Trowbridge address 11 Duke Street Civil Parish Frome Sumerset
Lucy M Deverell age 44
Children Lucy M 21,Robert 19.Albert G 18.Samuel 16.Harry 14.Annie 12.Bessie 10.Herbert 9.Frank 7.Charles P 5, Edwin A 3. Father Robert Deverell age 85 widower
Piece 2401 folio 16

1871 Robert still with the family widower woollen weaver
Piece 2430 Folio 16
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:50 BST (UK)
Wonder if this is Robert's death
Robert Deverall birth year this time 1792
Registration year 1886 age 94
District Frome Sumerset
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 30 April 16 15:58 BST (UK)
That would be a possible death for Robert - in the meantime I have his age as 1795 +/- 5 years. ;)

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 16:09 BST (UK)
That would be a possible death for Robert - in the meantime I have his age as 1795 +/- 5 years. ;)

Muffin
Have just seen a copy of his death certificate online tree confirming this to be the same person he died at 11.Duke Street the home of his son William
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 16:12 BST (UK)
Mary Jane Deverall married 13 October 1864 St Mary Church Islington father Robert cloth worker
Spouse William Stevens ( watch dial painter ) both living at 62.Pakington Street
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 30 April 16 16:16 BST (UK)
Just found this marriage

Marriages Sep 1854   (>99%)
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DEVERALL    William        Alverstoke 2b   621
Morris    Lucy Mary         Alverstoke 2b   621

Muffin

Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 April 16 16:35 BST (UK)
Just found this marriage

Marriages Sep 1854   (>99%)
________________________________________
DEVERALL    William        Alverstoke 2b   621
Morris    Lucy Mary         Alverstoke 2b   621

Muffin

Works in with the 1861 census Vessel Royal Marines Division Foston Alverstoke
Willm age 30 b  Trowbridge
Lucy age 24 b Portsmouth
Children William 6.Frederick 3.Caroline 1 all born Alverstoke

Back to your Mary J Steven she is with her sister in the 1901 census in Islington
Mary J Smith age 61 widow
Caroline Wethan age 78 both born Trowbridge
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Sunday 01 May 16 09:59 BST (UK)
Thank you again Rosie for your help. :D
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Back to your Mary J Steven she is with her sister in the 1901 census in Islington
Mary J Smith age 61 widow
Caroline Wethan age 78 both born Trowbridge

I have a Caroline Deverall marriage to Joseph Withers 3q 1864 Kensington 1a 225.
She was baptised 30 Mar 1823 at St. James Trowbridge and died 4q 1902 Islington 1b 189

Did Caroline remarry at one time?

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:13 BST (UK)
Thank you again Rosie for your help. :D
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Back to your Mary J Steven she is with her sister in the 1901 census in Islington
Mary J Smith age 61 widow
Caroline Wethan age 78 both born Trowbridge

I have a Caroline Deverall marriage to Joseph Withers 3q 1864 Kensington 1a 225.
She was baptised 30 Mar 1823 at St. James Trowbridge and died 4q 1902 Islington 1b 189

Did Caroline remarry at one time?

Muffin

Maybe transcribed wrong will have another look
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:24 BST (UK)
Marriage for Caroline deveral 30/8/1864 St John Paddington father Robert ( cloth maker)
Spouse Joseph Withers tea dealer
Witnesses James deveral Mary Jane Deveral
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for the correct marriage details, that has solved one error. 8)

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:34 BST (UK)
Probate record for Caroline Withers of 92,Shaftesbury Road Hornsey Rise Middlesex  died 26 December 1902
Probate London 16 January to James Deverall gentleman  ..Samuel Deverall grocer
Effects :£4,126.14s 7d
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:42 BST (UK)
Thank you for the correct marriage details, that has solved one error. 8)

Muffin

Just checked the census again looks like withers to me ....also same address as Probate record
Rosie
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Sunday 01 May 16 10:56 BST (UK)
William & Lucy had a son Samuel born 1865 in Gosport Hampshire.

I have not found a Wilson Withers marriage though ;)

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 11:14 BST (UK)
William & Lucy had a son Samuel born 1865 in Gosport Hampshire.

I have not found a Wilson Withers marriage though ;)

Muffin
Which Wilson and Withers
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: Muffin41 on Sunday 01 May 16 11:26 BST (UK)
Caroline Deverall married Joseph WILSON 30 Aug 1864

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Probate record for Caroline WITHERS of 92,Shaftesbury Road Hornsey Rise Middlesex  died 26 December 1902

Caroline married twice - or have I lost track along the line? :-\ ::)

Muffin
Title: Re: Robert DEVERAL (Surname variations: Deverall, Deverell, Deverill etc)
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 01 May 16 17:23 BST (UK)
Caroline Deverall married Joseph WILSON 30 Aug 1864

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Probate record for Caroline WITHERS of 92,Shaftesbury Road Hornsey Rise Middlesex  died 26 December 1902

Caroline married twice - or have I lost track along the line? :-\ ::)

Muffin

My mistake have amended the name