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Did Bertram and his family live in Christchurch?
Bertram Harry JEFFERY and his family sailed to Wellington 21 Sep 1906 – see also this Topic link below.
their first son Harry Jeffery was born 1q 1904 Weymouth 5a 296a.
Second son Robert Melhuish Jeffery was born 3q 1906 Weymouth 5a 289 – (in August?)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747985.msg5958680#msg5958680
I have been told that Amy JEFFERY died 1959 in New Zealand but have found no evidence yet.
Any links; details etc about the family would be welcome
Muffin41
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Hi there is a death for a Bertram Harry Jeffery 14/7/1941 buried Waikumete Cemetery Auckland plot 36
Also on Electoral Rolls Bertram Harry Jeffery 1928--1938 in Auckland occupation night porter appears to be on his own ...could this be him
Rosie
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There is a George Melhuish Jeffery in the N Z WW11 Nominal Rolls enlistment place Christchurch
occupation carpenter address Hei Hei Hornby Christchurch ..His mother is mentioned a Mrs A Robinson same address
This George also appears on the Electoral Roll with his brother I assume Robert Melhuish Jeffery 1935
Rosie
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This looks like the marriage 1926 New Zealand
Charles Henry Robinson to Amy Jeffery
Rosie
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Waikumete cemetery is a huge cemetery of about 266 acres with many different divisions this is Bertram's entry on the database
JEFFREY, BERTRAM HARRY
Plot : ANGLICAN DIVISION L Row 1, Plot 36
Interment Type: Burial
Title: MR
Surname : JEFFREY
Given Names: BERTRAM HARRY
Age : 67
Gender : Male
Occupation: NIGHT WATCHMAN
Date Of Death : 11-Jul-1941
Date Of Burial : 14-Jul-1941
Funeral Director : TJ MCIVOR
Head Stone Details : N/A
Cheers Janette
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It looks like Bertram got into a spot of bother after he and Amy parted ways
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=PBH19160912.2.9&srpos=1&e=-------100--1-byDA---2bertram+harry+jeffrey--
Cheers Janette
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747985.msg5958680#msg5958680
I have been told that Amy JEFFERY died 1959 in New Zealand but have found no evidence yet.
Any links; details etc about the family would be welcome
Muffin41
Hi Muffin
In Rosie's earlier post re: George JEFFERY, she mentioned his Army file gave his mother's name as "Mrs. A. ROBINSON".
There is a New Zealand marriage in 1926 of an Amy JEFFERY to Charles Henry ROBINSON.
Further, there is also a Probate file (with annexed Will) which refers to Amy's son > namely "Robert Melhuish JEFFERY".
You can view the probate file at familysearch website (for free).
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481
Amy ROBINSON - Christchurch - Year: 1959
~ Lu
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... apologies ... I doubled up on info (1926 marriage --posted by Rosie) for Amy JEFFERY / Charles Henry ROBINSON. ;D
~ Lu
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* Correction * to my Reply # 6
Re: reference to George JEFFERY "Army file".
This should have read as being info for George Melhuish JEFFERY ... sourced from the NZ Army WW II Nominal Rolls , 1939-1948 Index (rather than "Army File").
~ Lu
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Perhaps you already have this information?
Births:
1910/13755 Jeffery Emily Mary Amy Bertram Harry
1908/7126 Jeffery George Melhuish Amy Bertram Harry
Deaths:
1912/4699 Jeffery Emily Mary 1Y
1983/32881 Jeffery George Melhuish 9/2/1908 75Y
Minniehaha.
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The very sad report of wee Emily's death......
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS19120410.2.8&srpos=10&e=--1912---1912--10--1----2emily+jeffery--
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=ODT19120412.2.79&srpos=14&e=--1910---1912--10--11----2emily+jeffery--
Minniehaha.
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A snippet about Robert Melhuish Jeffery.........
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP19430918.2.11&srpos=1&e=--1906-----10--1----2robert+melhuish+jeffery--
Minniehaha.
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His death..........
1979/46282 Jeffery Robert Meluish 6/8/1906 73Y
Minniehaha.
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Death notice for Bertram Harry Jeffery........
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH19410714.2.4&srpos=3&e=-------10--1----2harry+jeffery--
Minniehaha.
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The death of the first son of Bertram Harry Jeffery?
1970/35255 Jeffery Harry 67Y
Minniehaha.
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Further to reply #10.......
Last name JEFFERY
First name EMILY MARY
Age 18 Months
Service provided Burial
Burial date 11/04/1912
Cemetery Karori
Section CH ENG
Plot number 147 Z
Record number 21419
Minniehaha.
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A possible Christchurch connection?......
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21796254
[Probate (1970) held for Harry Jeffery and also one (1967) for Mary Edith, "wife of Harry"]
Minniehaha.
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Another Christchurch connection..........
Probate (1983) for George Melhuish Jeffery.
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21744061
Minniehaha.
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Good work :) ;)
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Did Bertram and his family live in Christchurch?
Hello Muffin41
To answer your question above ... it does seem from all the records, newspaper articles etc, available, that Bertram JEFFERY did not actually reside in Christchurch at any time, but that his former wife Amy, and his three sons, did so.
Bertram is firstly found (after his arrival in Wellington, NZ - November 1906), living with Amy at Otaki, a small community, which is roughly 73 kilometres from Wellington.
1911 - Wellington - Otaki Roll
JEFFERY - Amy - married
JEFFERY - Bertram Harry - photographer -- both at Aotaki Street, Otaki
Bertram also appeared on another Roll for Otaki in that same year :
1911 - Otaki Roll - Absent Voter Roll
# 77 - JEFFERY - Bertram Harry
[Possible he was working away from home at that time.? ]
~ Lu
PS More info to follow >>
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The births of the New Zealand-born children of Amy and Bertram >
1908 - JEFFERY - George Melhuish
1910 - JEFFERY - Emily Mary
.... were both registered at Otaki.
By April 1912 when their daughter died, they were living at Horner Street (Newtown) Wellington.
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Electoral :
1914 - Hawke's Bay Roll
JEFFERY - Bertram Harry - Grand Hotel, Hastings - Occ: Hotel Porter
There is no sign of wife Amy in this / or other, electorate.
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Hmm ... by September 1916 > see Reply # 5 - Court report from Gisborne > it seems that wife Amy and children may be residing in Gisborne, and because he was sentenced to imprisonment in Wellington, that Bertram had returned to live there ?
[Note: Info from Electoral rolls should be treated with caution - for a variety of reasons it's not always accurate. ]
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 21 December 1917 - Island Bay School
... this article is an end-of-year report for the school which lists some pupils.
Amongst them are the names - Harry JEFFERY / Robert JEFFERY / George JEFFERY (in that order) who might be the sons of Amy and Bertram ? (A couple of others named JEFFERY seem not to be related ? )
[Hopefully, somebody here may be able to check Wellington school rolls to find ages and guardian of these children ?]
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Amy JEFFERY appears to have worked as a dressmaker at various times - and also had her own (clothing / dressmaking ) business at Gisborne - 1919/ 1920.
Some further info from newspapers >
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
ALL articles from "Poverty Bay Herald" (Gisborne) unless otherwise specified :
- 6 August 1919 - page 2 - Untitled
... Mrs Amy JEFFERY has just returned from and extensive visit to Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin, where she has been selecting new seasons' goods....
- 19 and 20 August 1919 ... advertisements for dressmaking business of Mrs JEFFERY.
Electoral :
1919 - Gisborne roll
JEFFERY - Amy - 259 Stout Street, Whataupoko - married
JEFFERY - Bertram Harry - Albion Club Hotel - occ: night porter
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... oops ... datewise, the following should come before info in previous post. :D
"Poverty Bay Herald" (Gisborne) - 9 September 1918 - Untitled - page 4 [Search on "amy jeffery"]
... appearance in Gisborne Court - Amy JEFFERY seeking increase in maintenance order for her three children ... her husband incorrectly named as "Harry Robert JEFFERY" ... Husband working as a porter at Cook Hospital, Gisborne.
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http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Poverty Bay Herald" (Gisborne) - 29 September 1919 - Untitled - page 2
[near end of column ]
... apearance in Magistrate's Court at Gisborne ... Amy JEFFERY - arrears of a maintenance order ... husband is working on the wharf ...
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"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 10 March 1924 - page 2 - column 7
Advertisement :
Claims against the assigned estate of Mrs Amy JEFFERY, Draper of Gisborne.
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Electoral :
1914 - Hawke's Bay Roll
JEFFERY - Bertram Harry - Grand Hotel, Hastings - Occ: Hotel Porter
There is no sign of wife Amy in this / or other, electorate.
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Update :
1914 - Amy at 259 Stout Street, Whataupoko ... her surname was spelled as "JEFFREY" on the roll.
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Electoral :
1928 - Canterbury - Kaiapoi Supplementary Roll
ROBINSON - Amy - Hei Hei Settlement, Hornby - married
1928 - Kaiapoi Main Roll
ROBINSON - Charles Henry - occ: miner - Hei Hei Settlement, Hornby
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Birth of a child of Robert Melhuish Jeffery?
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP19390926.2.3&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----2r%2e+m%2e+jeffery--
Minniehaha.
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I am so surprised and pleased that my Topic has come up with so much information. :D :D Thank you all; especially Lucy2 for taking so much trouble in searching for me. 8) 8)
I shall take a good look at it all and reply later.
Muffin41
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From Minniehaha´s replies #15 and #17 it would seem that Harry Jeffery born 1904 was married to a Mary Edith, can anyone find the marriage?
Also; did Robert Melhuish Jeffery marry?
Could Bertram and Amy JEFFERY have been divorced between 1919 and 1926 when she married Charles Henry ROBINSON?
Are there any newspaper reports to see more?
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Hi muffin if you click on the link minniehaha posted for the paper you will see a birth of a child of Robert M Jeffery the link should also get you more information on the family
Rosie
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Think the marriage for Robert Jeffrey to Gladys Brown took place between 1935_1938 going by the electoral rolls the marriage index only goes up to 1934 ...Hopefully Lucy and Minniehaha will find it
Rosie
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Hello,
This is possibly the probated will of "Gladys nee Brown", widow of Robert Melhuish Jeffery. [See reply # 29]
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21737747
She died in 1980, born 1909, birth registered as Gladys Mary Uru Brown.
Minniehaha.
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Many thanks both for your help again; you have found more information than I had hoped for. :D :D
I will look at the newspaper archives to see if I can find out more.
Muffin41
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Good luck with your research :)
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Burial details for:
Surname: Robinson
First name(s): Charles Henry
Date of death: Wednesday, 11 September 1946
Cemetery: Bromley
Date of burial: Thursday, 12 September 1946
Block number: 4G RSA
Plot number: 24
Age: 67 years
Address:
Occupation: Unknown
Place of birth:
Years in New Zealand: 45
Letters of Administration-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9ND-JZFR?i=174&wc=Q8C5-FYX%3A1045253801%2C1045916101%3Fcc%3D1865481&cc=1865481
Minniehaha.
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This WW1 file fits the age and occupation of Charles Henry Robinson
http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE19616967
Cheers Janette
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Thank you for the updates :) In the meantime I have found two deaths on the familySearch site.
Robert Melhuish Jeffery; Age 73; 14 Dec 1979 in Christchurch, Canterbury. Also his wife Gladys Mary Uri Jeffery; Age 71; 30 Jan 1980 Christchurch, Canterbury.
Both in the Woodlawn Memorial Gardens; Christchurch Crematorium.
Muffin41
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From Minniehaha´s replies #15 and #17 it would seem that Harry Jeffery born 1904 was married to a Mary Edith, can anyone find the marriage?
Also; did Robert Melhuish Jeffery marry?
Could Bertram and Amy JEFFERY have been divorced between 1919 and 1926 when she married Charles Henry ROBINSON?
Are there any newspaper reports to see more?
I'd better first declare my relationship to all this. Harry Jeffery was my father.
So to some information.
Bertram Harry Jeffery married Amy Melhuish in Exeter Cathedral 18 March 1903. He was born in Melcombe Regis Dorset in June Q 1874 and was a brewer's clerk. He claimed to be all sorts of other occupations through time, but I digress. Amy was born in Washfield Devon 21 May 1880 and was the daughter of a land holding family. Both of her parents died whan Amy was about 5.
There were two sons born in England, Harry Jeffery born 14 Feb 1904 and Robert Melhuish Jeffery born 6 August 1906, both at Weymouth. They emigrated to NZ in 1906. I have the details somewhere if you wish.
Bertram was a bit of a ne'er do well and lived a lot of the time separate from Amy. They lived mostly in an area north of Wellington or in Gisborne while they were to together. He moved to Auckland sometime after they separated.
They had one boy and a short lived girl in New Zealand, George Melhuish Jeffery born 9 Feb 1908 and Emily Mary Jeffery (I'd not heard of here before this)
There seems to be some naughtiness around the Amy-Bertram-Charles Robinson triangle. As indicated, Amy married Charles Henry Robinson on 29 Sept 1926 in the Wellington Registrar's Office. In the marriage cert, it is claimed that Bertram had died. However, he actually died in Auckland Hospital 14 Jul 1941 and, as indicated, was buried at Waikumete Cemetery.
Harry married 1. Eva Emilie Anstice, 9 Jul 1925, Knox Church Masterton NZ and went to live in Tauranga. They divorced in 1937. Marriage 2. Mary Edith Green, 15 Oct 1943, Registrar's Office Christchurch. (my mother).
Harry died in 1970, Mary in 1968.
Robert Melhuish Jeffery married Gladys Mary Uru Brown 29 Dec 1957 in St Columba's Church, Hornby, Christchurch.
George Melhuish Jeffery married Glory Elizabeth Bartlett 9 Jun 1945 at St Saviours Church, Sydenham, Christchurch.
From about 1940, all the boys and Amy were living in Christchurch where they remained until they died.
Does that help a bit?
Keith Jeffery
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I am so surprised and pleased that my Topic has come up with so much information. :D :D Thank you all; especially Lucy2 for taking so much trouble in searching for me. 8) 8)
I shall take a good look at it all and reply later.
Muffin41
I can't read. Marriage of Robert M Jeffery was 29 Dec 1937. They had one son, Kenneth Jeffery who died in a cycling accident as I recall. I'd better check.
Cheers, Keith
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Thank you Keith for your additional details about the family. :D
This all helps to fill in gaps and confirm the missing information.
Muffin41
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Thank you Keith for your additional details about the family. :D
This all helps to fill in gaps and confirm the missing information.
Muffin41
And we can add the following:
I would say that the Jeffery family went first to Palmerston North as the birth of son George Melhuish Jeffery is there.
Son of Robert Melhuish Jeffery was Kenneth Robert Jeffery born Christchurch 24 Sep 1939. He's dead, so not private.
Emigration from the UK was from London on the Athenic, departing 21 Sep 1906.
Cheers, Keith Jeffery