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John Turbitt Esq. was resident in Bandon in February 1866 at the time of the marriage of his daughter Mary Ann to William Wagner of Belfast. John Turbitt may have been from County Tyrone or possibly Derry but I cannot trace his family connections. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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John Turbitt Esq. was resident in Bandon in February 1866 at the time of the marriage of his daughter Mary Ann to William Wagner of Belfast. John Turbitt may have been from County Tyrone or possibly Derry but I cannot trace his family connections. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Lots of information relating to Bandon on www.bandon-genealogy.com
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John Turbitt's wife at least seems to have Co. Tyrone connection-
1866- WAGNER-TURBITT. February 8, at St. Peter's Church, Cork, by the Rev. R. Norcott, M.A., MR. WILLIAM WAGNER, Belfast, son of RICHARD WAGNER, ESQ., Dunmanaway [Co. Cork], to MARY ANNE, eldest daughter of JOHN TURBITT, ESQ., Bandon, and granddaughter of Lieutenant Colonel HUGH GORE EDWARDS, Fintona, ex High Sheriff of county Tyrone.
1867- DERINZY-TURBITT. July 24, at Clogher Cathedral, by the Rev. Dean Moore, JAMES HARWOOD DERINZY, ESQ., of Llibimin? Hall, to ELIZABETH, daughter of JOHN TURBITT, ESQ., Massachusetts, and granddaughter of COLONEL HUGH GORE EDWARDS, late 27th Regiment, of Raveagh, county Tyrone
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/donacavey2.html
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Thank you for that. I was aware of those marriages but have been unable to trace John Turbitt or the Wagner marriage any further.
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I also see online that he is mentioned in the book "Bandon County Cork. A social history" by Catherine FitzMaurice but am unable at the moment to access a copy to check the reference.
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Thank you for that. I was aware of those marriages but have been unable to trace John Turbitt or the Wagner marriage any further.
Parents William Wagner & Mary Anne Turbitt-
Isabella Edward born 1867 Belfast
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR9G-Z8J
Hugh Gore Edwards born 1869 Cork
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYW-ZRM
James Henry born 1871 Cork
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5F5-NRC
Elizabeth Anne born 1873 Cork
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F59W-NX3
William Edward born 1876 Cork (family residence Limerick)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGX6-WXP
Richard Jennings born 1878 Cork
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRMF-W28
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William Wagner & family in 1901- census says wife Mary Anne born in America-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Jocelyn_Avenue/1210788
Administration of the estate of Mary Anne Wagner late of 2 Jocelyn-avenue Belfast Widow who died 13 March 1906 granted at Belfast to James Henry Wagner Grocer. Effects £10
www.proni.gov.uk
Richard Jennings Wagner m.1917 Belfast
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYX4-WPG
Probate of the Will of May Isabell Wagner late of 1 Elmfield Avenue, Whitewell, Co. Antrim, Married Woman, who died 31 March 1921 granted at Belfast 20 July 1921 to Richard Jennings Wagner, Gentleman. Effects: £163 6s 8d
www.proni.gov.uk
Belfast City Cemetery, plot J1 12:
Hugh Gore Edwards Wagner d.1898
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6479.11341
William Wagner d.1905
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6099.30286
Mary Anne Wagner d.1906
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6103.30590
Isobel Edward Little d,1925
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6215.2309
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Isabella Edwards (Wagner) Little in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Antrim_Road/143878
Robert Henry Little d.1934
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6263.3646
Wagner James Henry of 70 Castlereagh Street Belfast superintendent died 2 October 1928 Probate Belfast 14 December to Robert Boyd accountant and Walter A. Hunter commercial clerk. Effects £1503 12s. 6d.
www.prni.gov.uk
Burial- https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6233.6642
Also an Isabella Wagner in same plot-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6629.15625
Wagner Isabella of 70 Castlereagh Street Belfast widow died 1 October 1936 Probate Belfast 4 December to Robert Boyd accountant and Walter A. Hunter clerk. Effects £287 6s. 2d.
www.proni.gov.uk
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Did John Turbett die in Toronto in 1873? If not, disregard, if so, this mentions daughter Emily who married Thomas Crumley (in 1869):
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014892/005014892_00383.pdf
Also died 1873, Isabella Turbett, wife of John Turbett, again mention of Thomas and Emily Crumley, could Isabella be Isabella Edwards?
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014892/005014892_00382.pdf
GRONI shows a reported age of 44 at death, which may be a bit light.
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Probate of the Will of John Crumley late of Clogher County Tyrone Tailor who died 9 August 1913 at The Clogher Infirmary granted at Armagh to The Very Reverend Arthur N. H. Forster Dean
Will mentions nephew Thomas Crumley (who may or may not be the one who married Emily)
Thomas & Emily Crumley here in 1901- note that Emily was born in America (as was Mary Anne Turbitt)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Augher/Main_Street/1725565
Haven't found them in 1911 yet
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Thomas Crumley married (1869 Belfast) Emily Turbitt, daughter of John-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZZ-ND8
Children of Thomas Crumley & Emily Turbitt-
Isabella born 1869 Belfast
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5H9-9HZ
?Thomas James born 1871 Belfast (mother Emely Talbert)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F53D-LSS
Elizabeth born 1874 Belfast
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBP-LRF
Hugh born 1875 Tyrone
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8H-PPG
Charlotte born 1880 Tyrone
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5BY-5B3
Based on the marriage and children listed above (may be other children born after 1880) then it's unlikely the Thomas & Emily I found in 1901 census (see previous post) are correct- unless her age if off
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Derinzy- Turbitt thread from 2014:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702586.0
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I think the John Turbett dying in Toronto must be the right man but I can't confirm that or trace him further.
Thanks for all the tips.