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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 18 May 16 03:11 BST (UK)
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Looking for further info on Daniel Patrick Ryan, his death was 18 July 1902 at 88yrs in Melbourne Victoria, he arrived in Australia in 1854 married a Charlotte O'Brien in Ireland. If the date on the death cert is correct he was born in abt 1814, born in Co. Clare Cloonlara area...His father is noted as John mother unknown, when he arrived he had three young children with him one of these children gave the info on death cert ???
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I have only been able to find one person in the indexes I have searched in relation to your post.
1855 Griffiths valuation of Cloonlara: Thomas O'Brien
See:
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/griffiths/griffith.htm
(I have an interest in Cloonlara, as my gggrandmother, Mary Wall, migrated to Brisbane in 1853)
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I have found a rather confusing entry for a bapt for a daughter of a Daniel and Charlotte BRYAN or BRY in the Doonass & Truagh RC bapt register, which is the old parish which takes in Cloonlara. The writing is quite clear but nearly every child in the record is given a second (?Christian) which does not correspond with the surname of the parents. Thus I found this:
20 Feb 1852 Anne Ryan parents: Danl & Charlotte BRYAN or BRY (of) Canal Bridge
Sponsors: Michael (?) & Margt ?Tilley (of) Summerhill.
The indexers indexed the surname as BRY for the parents but RYAN for the child.
Did they have a daughter, Anne? Regards
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Thanks for that yes they had a child called Ann!
She must of been a baby when they sailed for Australia as they arrived in 1853.
Interesting that her Sponsors were Michael and Margaret maybe?Ryan.....
They apparently had three other children in Ireland 1.Margaret 2.Honorah 3.Mary 4. Anne, the fifth was born in Australia.
Cheers for that one!
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If you are using information from a death certificate can you please list all the information.
What ship did this family arrive on please?
Is it this family arriving on "Boomerang" Melbourne, Jan 1854
RYAN Daniel 35yrs
RYAN Charlotte 36yrs
RYAN Margaret 11yrs
RYAN Mary 8yrs
RYAN Honora 5yrs
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Two children born in Victoria?
RYAN Charlotte parents Daniel / Charlotte (OBRIEN) 1858 #9676 @Emerald Hl
RYAN Daniel parents Daniel / Charlotte (OBRIEN) 1854 #6164 @ Emer
death
RYAN Danl Jos parents RYAN Danl / Charl (OBRIEN) 1913 #8306 37yrs @BRTN
Advocate 18 Oct 1913
...obit Daniel Joseph RYAN of Heatheron nr Oakleigh ....only son of late Daniel RYAN.......57yrs
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Some parish registers are available to view/browse here:
http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
Also civil registration began in Ireland after 1845 which may include the children. This index is searchable on the Latterday Saints at familysearch.
Regards Jay
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Civil Registration of births commenced 1864. See following link.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
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Civil Registration of births commenced 1864. See following link.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
To clarify the LDS information further- civil registration of births, deaths & Catholic marriages started in 1864, registration of non-Catholic marriages started 1845.
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Thanks