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Title: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: kjmck on Wednesday 25 May 16 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I am looking for help locating a John Broderick in the 1861/1871 census. In 1881 he is 22, a Shop Porter and living in Usk with his mother Honorah Broderick who is 62 (a Widow) and originally from Bradford in Ireland. In all census returns from 1881 - 1911 John is listed as being born in 1859 in Usk, but I have been unable to find such a record of his birth.

John marries Ada Kenefick/Kennifik on 8th May 1887 in Pontypool, John's father is listed as Patrick Broderick (deceased/labourer). The only marriage i can find for a Patrick Broderick to an Honorah is in Cardiff in 1850 (Honorah Hayes).

If anyone can help me locate John in earlier census returns that would be grand.

Thanks very much!

Keelan
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:01 BST (UK)
Mistranscription on ancestry - well a bit of enumerator error + ancestry error.
1861 RG9 piece 4012 folio 19 page 40
Church street Usk
Patrick Brodrice  45 ag lab Ireland
 Honora Brodrice  42 Ireland
 John Brodrice  2 Usk
 George Williams  55 boarder ag lab
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:03 BST (UK)
1861 census
Class: RG09, Piece: 4012, Folio: 19; Page: 40
Church Street, Usk, Monmouthshire

Broderic, Patrick  Head  M  45  b Ireland
Broderic, Honora  Wife  F  42  b Ireland
Broderic, John  Son  M  2  b Usk
Williams, George  Boarder  M  55

From FamilySearch, and also on FindMyPast
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:09 BST (UK)
1871 RG10/5338/18/32
Patrick Branderick  55 labourer ireland
 Honora Branderick  52 ireland
 John Branderick  12 Usk
 Bridget Reach  75 Lodger ireland
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:10 BST (UK)
Mistranscription on ancestry - well a bit of enumerator error + ancestry error.
1861 RG9 piece 4012 folio 19 page 40
Church street Usk
Patrick Brodrice  45 ag lab Ireland
 Honora Brodrice  42 Ireland
 John Brodrice  2 Usk
 George Williams  55 boarder ag lab


I read "Honora" on image as "Honna"

???

Suz
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:12 BST (UK)
So is he John Broadrick reg.in pontypool 1859 from Familysearch

Mike
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: mazi on Wednesday 25 May 16 22:14 BST (UK)
Pontypool 11a152. March quarter
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: kjmck on Wednesday 25 May 16 23:36 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help  :) :)
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: kjmck on Monday 15 August 16 14:47 BST (UK)
Could anyone recommend a good site for Irish records of BMD's?

Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 15 August 16 16:18 BST (UK)
Catholic or Protestant?

Try www.irishgenealogy.ie for Civil Registration and Anglican parish records.
Where it says:
The Indexes to Birth Records over 100 years, the Indexes to Marriage Records over 75 years and the Indexes to Death Records over 50 years are available to search on www.irishgenealogy.ie.

The Birth Records Indexes date from 1864 to 1914, the Marriage Records Indexes date from 1845 (1864 for Roman Catholic Marriages) to 1939 and the Death Records Indexes date from 1864 to 1964.

Try http://registers.nli.ie/ for images of Catholic registers (but no index).

In all cases it helps to know a parish, if not a townland.
Title: Re: John Broderick - Usk/Pontypool etc
Post by: kjmck on Monday 15 August 16 18:05 BST (UK)
I believe they were catholics. John Broderick in question married in a roman catholic church in Pontypool, so i'm assuming that his parents Patrick and Honorah who were from Ireland were also Catholic. Unfortunately in the census' they appear in in Wales their birth place is only listed as Ireland, nowhere specific. So I would be looking for a marriage record ideally for Patrick Broderick & Honora Hudnor.