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Title: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 28 May 16 03:00 BST (UK)
Trying to find any information on my Grandmothers paternal side in Londonderry (I believe).  Her Gandparents were born in Colleraine area.  John Heaney was born February, 1827. He married Margaet Ann Boyd in New York.  John immigrated to USA 1838 to 1840s.  John Heaney had a younger brother named Daniel Thomson Heaney  Dabiel was born in 1842 in Ireland..  Daniel came to the US in 1858 or 1859.  Margaret Ann Boyds parents were Thomas Boyd and Leticia Boyd. They came to New York in 1839 from Northern Ireland. 

There is an Ann Heaney whose parents were Robert Heaney and Jane Wallace.  I think Robert Heaney and Thomas Heaney may have been brothers.

Any information is so appreciated<. Irish Lynn
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 10 June 16 13:40 BST (UK)
Is there any chance that your John Heaney (born Feb.1827 in Coleraine area) died 1863 in New York? If so, I can fill in some blanks on the family back in Ireland.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Friday 10 June 16 23:25 BST (UK)
Yes!  John Heaney who died February, 1863 was my Great Great Grand father!  He was married to Margaret Ann Boyd!  Their son was my Great Grand father, Thomas Boyd Heaney. 

I think there was a brother (Daniel Heaney) who was living with them in 1860 and 1870 census.  According to Daniels marriage records, his father was Thomas Heaney and Ann Thompson. 

I know they were all Presbyterians and The Boyds/John Heaney/ Andrew Ramsay and John Hogg bought a burial put in NYC together.  John Hoggs wife was Ann Heaney.  I thought she might be a sister, but her parents names were Robert Heaney and Jane Wallace.  Maybe a cousin?  Would SO APPRECIATE any information on John Heaney and his family/where they are from, etc.  Irish Lynn
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Friday 10 June 16 23:34 BST (UK)
More on John Heaney (that I know).

He was born February 25, 1867 and died in NYC on February 11, 1863.  I don't know for sure he was from Coleraine area, but other Hogg relatives were from that area, so I was guessing. 

Margaret Ann Boyd was born October 21, 1830 in Londonderry area too. 

Daniel Heaney was born in 1843 in Londonderry area too I believe and died in NYC in 1898.

Ann Heaney Hogg was born in 1820 and her parents were Robert Heaney and Jane.  I got a copy of her death certificate.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Friday 10 June 16 23:35 BST (UK)
Sorry for typing error.  John Heaney born February 25, 1827.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 June 16 08:53 BST (UK)
Yes, we seem to be talking about the same John Heaney. Late last night I came across an online tree that had Thomas & Ann Heaney buried somewhere in Galway which is totally incorrect- they are buried in Aghadowey.

The Heaneys were from Cullycapple townland in Aghadowey Parish- you'll see that it marches Mullaghinch townland:
https://www.townlands.ie/derry/cullycapple/

There were also Heneys (no a) in Cullycapple who are NOT related but due to spelling variations the 2 families can get confused. Also, I've see some bad transcriptions which give the surname as Henry which is incorrect.

Starting with John's obituary in the Coleraine Chronicle (28 Feb.1863): At his residence, West 37th Street, near 10th Avenue, New York, on the 10th inst., John, eldest son of Mr. Thomas Heaney, Cullycapple, Aghadowey, aged 35 years.

Outline family tree (your details which I didn't have previously in red)

___ Heaney (d.before 1833), Cullycapple
1. William Heaney (c1803-1868), teacher, m. Sarah (c1799-1893). Children- Nancy (c1831-1911), Mary Ann (c1836-1925), child, William (c1842-1920), Thomas (c1843-1923), Hannah (c1848-1928). Only William & Hannah married and the only (two) surviving descendants are elderly & childless.
2. Ann Heaney (c1815-1902), unmarried.
3. Thomas Heaney (c1801-1874), farmer, m.Annie/Ann Thomson (c1805-1896). There were Thomsons in Cullycapple but she is much more likely to have been one of the Glasgort family
     1. John Heaney (1827-1863 N.Y.), eldest son
     2. William? Heaney
     3. Thomas Heaney (c1837-1919), 3rd son, m.(1879) Catherine McQuigg. Children- Anna Bella (1880-1905), Thomas James (1882-1949). Neither child had family so this line has died out.
     4. daughter ? Ann Heaney m. John Hogg
     5. Daniel Thomson Heaney (1842), N.Y.
     6. Robert Alexander Heaney (1845-1856), youngest son
     7.   Jane Heaney (d.7 Jan.1871 Cullycapple) m. James Aughey- child: James.

Robert Heaney (c1785-1871), farmer, Cullycapple, m. Jane Wallace (c1788-5 Feb.1867 Cullycapple). There were Wallaces in Cullycapple & in Mullahinch
1. Daniel Heaney, farmer, m.(1846) Nancy Hull
2. Isabella Heaney (c1823-1900) m.(1866) Joseph Hunter- no family
3. Ann Heaney m. ___
4. Peggy Heaney, youngest daughter, m.(1852) Thomas Boyd- family

Also in Cullycapple-
Daniel Heaney, farmer, m. Mary (c1796-1862)
1. Mary Jane Heaney m.(1848) John Moon
2. Margaret Heaney m.(1855) John Doherty
3. Sarah Anne Heaney, youngest daughter, m.(1863) Robert Mayben

I lived in Cullycapple before I married and can expand more on all of the above if you wish. I'll also go see Hannah Heaney's grandson to see if he can add to my own notes.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 11 June 16 12:42 BST (UK)
THis is such wonderful news!  My grandmother was an only child and both of parents had died by the time she was 18.  I have had a hard time finding anything out. 

Do you think the Robert Heaney that married Jane Wallace might be Thomas Heaney Seniors brother?  That would make Anne Heaney Hogg and John Heaney cousins.  I thought there moght be a connection when I saw Ann Hoggs maiden name on her headstone.  The families also lived close to each other in New York. 

Also I thought there might be a connection for Jane Wallace married to Robert Heaney.  I have a great x3 grandmother Leticia Wallace that was married to Thomas Boyd.  Their daughter Margaret Ann Boyd married John Heaney in 1850 in New York City.  Thought Leticia Wallace and Jane Wallace could be sisters Leticia Boyd and Thomas Boyd came over to New York around 1840 with 4 children in 1840. 

Thank you so much for any other John Heaney family information. It mean a lot! I may plan a trip to visit Northern Ireland next year.  I have joined the Ulster Foundation for news also. 
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 11 June 16 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi again, is there anyway I could get a copy of the John Heaney Obituary in the Coleraine Chronicle?

Many Thanks!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 11 June 16 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi,
   A death announcement from the Londonderry Sentinel of 5 February 1867.
"February 5 at her residence Cullycapple, Aghadowey, Jane, wife of Mr. Robert Heaney, aged 79 years"

Regards
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 11 June 16 18:37 BST (UK)
Thanks!  I think this "might" be the Jane Wallace Heaney that is the mother of Ann Heaney Hogg that is buried in the same pot in Brooklyn, NY as John Heaney and his wife Margaret Ann Boyd. 
I was at the cemetary a year ago and went to the site of the Boyds and John Heaney.  I have the have the papers that show the purchase of the burial plot in 1855.  After John Heaney dies, Thomas B. Heany inherited his portion. 

I never knew anything about John Hogg and his wife Ann Hogg until I went to the cemetary and saw her maiden name.  I wrote for her death certificate and it has Robert Heaney and Jane Wallace as her parents.  I thought that might be John Heaneys parents, but Daniel T. Heaney (who lived with John Heaney) has Thomas and Ann as his parents.  The families lived close by each other according to the New York census, so I think Ann Heaney Hogg might be a relation. 

Also Leticia Wallace was married to Thomas Boyd and their daughter married John Heaney.  The Jane Wallace and Leticia Wallace connection may be sisters?   

Another family side is Thomas Hogg from Caheny who married Martha Brown from Bovaugh area.  I do not know if John Hogg is related to Thomas Hogg.  They are not buried near each other.  Also, Thomas Hogg and wife Martha Brown Hogg came to the USA with 8 or 9 children in 848.  They had 3 or 4 more born in New York City, one of which is my Great Grandmother Sarah Hoag.  She married Thomas Boyd Heaney!  I am trying to put more pieces together. 

Many Thanks for your information.  It has opened more doors for me!

Do you know how long the Heaneys were in the Aghadewey area? 
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 11 June 16 18:43 BST (UK)
I think the Thomas Boyd family (who had Maragaret Ann Boyd as a daughter) came to New York in 1839 to 1840.  Thomas Boyd Senior was a Mason/stone cutter.  Thomas Boyd and wife Leticia were born in 1785 and 1786.  This is closer in time to Jane Wallace Heaneys birth, so I think she might be a sister to Leticia. 

John Heaney came in 1846 I think (according to the NY 1855 census).

Ann Heaney Hogg and her husband John Hogg came to New York in about 1842 timeframe. 

Thomas Hogg and Martha Brown Hogg came in 1848. 
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 11 June 16 19:00 BST (UK)
You seem to have so much good information on the Heaneys.  I never had anyone to ask before.  I have one paternal cousin and my brother and sister are younger, but I am the family historian who loves the geneaologygroup portion! 

I have one old picture from my great great grandmother - Margaret Boyd Heaney (married John) and that of Sarah Hogg Heaney (my great grandmother) who married Thomas Boyd Heaney.  These must of come from my grandmothers things (Ethel Boyd Heaney Miller). 

Is there anywhere I could look for pictures of Heaney relatives?  Distant cousins that are still in Northern Ireland/Coleraine/Aghadowey area? 

Sorry for so many questions!  This is like finding gold to me!!!

Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 June 16 23:14 BST (UK)
Have found a bundle of old letters and notes that I'd forgotten about which has enabled me to construct a far better family tree than the outline I posted earlier but I'm still typing the details out.

I have at least one photo of Sarah H. Heaney (taken with her cousin Minnie Hunter) and will see if there are any others here or elsewhere. Meanwhile, here's one of William Graham Boyd (grandson of Peggy (Heaney) Boyd) who died in WWI- http://www.instgreatwar.com/page5.htm

The Heaneys have been in Cullycapple since before 1831 (and most likely well before that).

Will have a chat with Hannah Heaney's grandson to see if he can clarify some of my notes. Two descendants of the Dunadry Heaneys were in touch with me years ago and I'll try to see if there's any way to contact them- one of them certainly has lots of stories passed down their branch.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Sunday 12 June 16 03:25 BST (UK)
Many, Many Thanks!  How is Sarah Heaney related to John Heaney (son of Thomas and Ann Heaney)? 

Also Minnie Boyd?  What is the connection? 

Can't wait to see all the information you send.  A great full relative!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Sunday 12 June 16 16:28 BST (UK)
If you are updating the Thomas/John Heaney family, I have some information from New York. 
John Heaneys son was Thomas Boyd Heaney.  He was born in 1854 and dies in 1895.  His only child was my grandmother , Ethel Boyd Heaney Miller.  She was born in 1885 and died in 1972.  Her son (my father) was Herbert Raymoond Miller.

John Heaney also had a daughter, Jane Boyd Heaney.  Born 1852 and died in 1878.  No children and did not marry.

Daniel Thomson Heaney born in 1842 died in New York in 1898.  He married Mary Ann Langan in 1870.  They had one daughter Mary Ann Heaney in 1875.  She married a man named William Large. Daniel was living with John Heaney (brother) in 1860 census and also with the family up until his marriage in 1870. 

Ann Heaney Hogg (daughter of Roobert Heaney and Jane Wallace Heaney) came with her husband John Hogg to New York in October 1844.  Ann was born in 1820 and died in 1885, buried in same plot area as John Heaney and wife Margaret Boyd Heaney.  Ann Heaney Hogg had sones, John, Samuel, Robert Alexander, Samuel, daughter Isabella.  Thomas Boyd Heaney (John Heaneys son), bought another plot in the same cemetary and was buried with his wife Sarah Hoog Heaney and her sister Matilda Hogg. 

John Heaneys wife was Margaret Ann Boyd.  She is buried with her husband John Heaney and her parents, Thoomas Boyd and Leticiia Wallace Boyd and her brother (Thomas Boyd Jr.) and his family and Thomas Hoog and Ann Heaney Hogg and family in same plot.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 June 16 23:06 BST (UK)
Between us we'll get lots of local families sorted out  ;)

I'm still typing up details on the Heaneys in Cullycapple and was there tonight checking that I had the right details as to where they lived, etc. So far there are 12 pages of notes and I'm a long way from finished!

You ancestor, Thomas Heaney (Daniel Thomson & John's father) lived at Hill Cottage in Cullycapple. The house was knocked down a few years ago to build a new house but tonight I got loan of an old(ish) picture of the old house to scan so that you can see what it looked like. There is also a picture of Hannah Heaney with her husband (I can borrow a copy if it's not here in our house) and I do have one of Robert Heaney & Jane Wallace's great-grandson in his NYPD uniform.
Thomas Heaney had a shop and bakery at Hill House and I know where the old oven is so will try to photograph it in daylight.

It is now clear that far more of the connection moved to Manhattan than I had previously thought and the details online (not available a few years ago) have made it much easier to make connections and figure things out once I had your information so very many thanks for all that you've shared so far. Will be in touch soon  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Monday 13 June 16 23:20 BST (UK)
Wow, this is fantastic!  I am so thankful you have a connection to this area! 

Do we know what the connection between Robert Heaney and Thomas Heaney was - Brothers maybe?  I noted that Jane Heaney Hogg was Roberts daughter and not Thomas's, but she must have had a connection to John Heaney as they are buried in the same large plot.

It's like a puzzle and more pievces are falling into place.  I can try and find more out on Daniel Heaneys daughter as I am a member of ancestry.  Also, could try and trace more on the Ann Heaney Hogg children.  I look forward to the pictures and your messages!  Many Thanks!!  I will plan a trip for next year in the Summer.  It is a milestone birthday for me. 
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Tuesday 14 June 16 03:05 BST (UK)
John Heaneys son (Thomas B0yd Heaney) married Sarah Hogg.  Sarah was one of 11 or 12 children of Thomas Hogg from  Caheny and Martha Brown Hogg.  Martha was from Boveaugh and the daughter of Robert Brown.  Sarah was one of their 3 younger children that were born in NYCity,  The rest of the children were born in Ireland and parents came to New York in June of 1848. 

I wonder if the John Hogg who married Ann Heaney Hogg was related to Thomas Hogg and  Martha Brown Hogg.  How far is Bovaugh and Caheny from  Cullycapple?

More questions!!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 June 16 19:03 BST (UK)
If you go back to this map for Cullycapple you'll be able to check other townlands in the area. Going along the present Mullahinch Road there's Cullycapple, Mullahinch then Bovagh with Caheney only a short distance away.

I've managed, so far, to put the Heaneys into 3 families (probably all connected back to some point)-

___ Heaney (d.before 1833) m. Ann (c1782-1869)
1.   William Heaney (c1803-1868) m. Sarah (c1799-1893)
     1.   Nancy Heaney (c1831-1911)
     2.   Mary Ann Heaney (c1836-1925)
     3.   Child
     4.   William Heaney (c1842-1920) m.(1872) Mary Jane Wright
          1.   Sarah H. Heaney (1873-1964) m. Henry Biggart White
          2.   William Heaney (1875-1875)
     5.   Thomas Heaney (c1843-1923)
     6.   Hannah Heaney (c1848-1928) m.(28 July 1871) Leslie Hunter
          1.   Mary “Minnie” Hunter (d.1957)
          2.   John Hunter (d.1954) m. Annie Eveline Clyde
          3.   William “Willie” Hunter
          4.   Annie Hunter (d.1957)
          5.   Sara Hunter
2.   Ann Heaney (c1815-1902)
3.   Thomas Heaney (c1801-1874) m.Annie/Ann Thomson (c1805-1896)
     1.   John Heaney (1827-1863) m. Margaret Ann Boyd- family
     2.   James Heney (1831-1901) m. Mary Couser
          1.   Rev. Thomas Heney (1865-1948) m. Sarah Boyd
          2.   William Heaney (1867-1936) m. Sarah Violet McCaw
          3.   Anna Stuart Heney (1868-1952) m. George Alexander Wilson
          4.   Rev. John Heney (1870-1953) m. Jane Johnston Stewart
          5.   Mary Eliza “Minnie” Heney (1871-d.y.?)
          6.   Lavinia Heney (d.y.?)
          7.   Rev. James Thomson Heney (1877-1956) m. Mabel Gilmore Warnock
     3.   Thomas Heaney (c1837-1919) m.(1879) Catherine McQuigg
          1.   Anna Bella Heaney (1880-1905)
          2.   Thomas James Heaney (1882-1949) m.(1913) Elizabeth McClement
     4.   William Heaney/Heney (c1839-1934) m.(1869) Rebecca Frances Parr
          1.   William Heney (1870-1875)
          2.   George Heney (1872-d.y.)
          3.   George Heney (1873)
          4.   Ernest Heney (1875)
          5.   Alice Weekes Heaney (1876)
          6.   Hamilton “Hammy” Heney (1878-1922)
          7.   Herbert William “Bertie” Heney (1880-1882)
     5.   daughter
     6.   Jane Heaney (c1838-1871) m.(1868) James Aughey
          1.   James Aughey (c1871-1946) m.(1895) Nellie Sherman
     7.   Daniel Thomson Heaney (1842-1898), N.Y., m.(1870) Mary Ann Langan- family
     8.   Robert Alexander Heaney (1845-1856)

The people in blue are my Heaney connections. Underlined bits are added
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Tuesday 14 June 16 21:52 BST (UK)
W0w. John Heaney had a lot of siblings!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 June 16 22:06 BST (UK)
Robert "Robin" Heaney (c1785-1871) m. Jane Wallace (c1788-1867)
1.   Daniel Heaney m.(1846) Nancy Hull (c1813-1898)
     1.   Mary Jane Heaney (c1848-1910) m.(1867) James Hunter (1841-1914)
          1.   Anna Bella Hunter (1869-1904) m.(1893) James McMahon
          2.   daughter (1872). Is this James Leslie?
          3.   James Leslie Hunter (1872-1872)
          4.   Sarah “Sadie” Hunter (1873-1944) m.(1895) David Gorman
          5.   James Leslie Hunter (1875-1949) m.(1899) Isabella Fazziani; m.(c1903) Catherine; m.(1936) Marjorie H. Heinert
          6.   Daughter (1880)
          7.   Mary Jane Hunter (1882-1884)
          8.   Ida L. Hunter (1883) m.(c1918) Alexander Bold Neill
          9.   daughter (1885)
          10.   George F. Hunter (1886) m.(1909) Louise Huber
          11.   Thomas Hunter (1887). Is this George?
          xii.   Caroline Harrison “Carrie” Hunter (1888-1968) m.(1914) Charles Keith Boig
     2.   Nancy Heaney (c1853) m.(1878) Robert John McClenaghan
2.   Ann Heaney (1820-1885) m. John Hogg- family
3.   Isabella Heaney (c1823-1900) m.(1866) Joseph Hunter (c1839-1909)
4.   ___ Heaney m. Robert Stephens, Claggan.
     a.   John Stephens, Claggan, m.(1861) Nancy/Agnes Archibald

5.   Margaret “Peggy” Heaney m.(1852) Thomas Boyd
     1.   Jane Wallace Boyd (1853-1868)
     2.   Martha Boyd (c1856)
     3.   Rev. Robert Heaney Boyd (c1857-1904) m. Sarah Louisa Graham
     4.   Rev. Andrew Adam Boyd (c1860) m. Bertha
     5.   Anna Stewart Boyd (1863-1866)
     6.   daughter (1866)
     7.   Rev. Thomas Wallace Boyd (1869-1946) m.(1903) Susan Maggie Byers
     8.   Margaret Anne Stewart “Maggie” Boyd (1871) m.(1926) Adam Moss
     9.   Jane Wallace Elmendorf “Jeannie” Boyd (1872)
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 June 16 23:15 BST (UK)
Daniel Heaney (c1795-1882) m. Mary (c1796-1862)
1.   Mary Jane Heaney (d.bef.1857) m.(1848) John Moon
     1.   Mary Jane Moon (c1856)
2.   Margaret Heaney m.(1855) John Doherty
3.   Sarah Anne Heaney m.(1863) Robert Mabin
     1.   daughter (1865)
     2.   Daniel Mabin (1868)
     3.   Thomas Mabin (1870-1907) m.(1892) Margaret Barr
     4.   Robert Mabin (1872)
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Wednesday 15 June 16 01:56 BST (UK)
 So many Heaneys!  Do we know anything about Jane Wallace Heaney (married to Robert Heaney?

I wonder about my Relative Margaret Ann. Boyd who married John Heaney.  Her parents were Thomas Boyd (born 1785) and Leticia Wallace born 1786.  I do not know where that Boyd family came rom (Northern Ireland) and they came over in 1839 to 1840.  Trying to see if the Leticia Wallace was related to Jane Wallace Heaney.  They were born in the late 1700;s.  I see there is a Boyd family married into the Heaneys, but my relatives were already in New York in the 1850s.

Thanks for all this help!!!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 15 June 16 08:20 BST (UK)
That's not all the Heaneys! I just posted the first few generations but will be able to send you complete families with sources, etc. before too long.

I'm fairly certain that Jane (Wallace) Heaney was the same Wallace as my family (and they lived next to the Heaneys). Only one of the Heaney houses is still standing (Hill Cottage was also knocked down) but think I have photos taken there in the 1980s which might show what they looked like.

Wallace, however, is a common surname and there were even other Wallaces in Cullycapple. Letitia isn't a name that has come down in our family.

Thomas Boyd (married Margaret Heaney) was from Ballyclough (still in Aghadowey but not that close to Cullycapple). Boyd is also a common surname and probably difficult to make a connection now with Margaret Ann Boyd's family. There was a John Boyd, from Killeague (near Ballyclough), who came to Cullycapple when he married the Female School teacher. They had a large family and he took over the school after wife had a stroke in 1890s and at this point it seems to have become a mixed school (boys and girls). Their son Alfred later became schoolmaster and one of his daughters gave me a Boyd family tree done by a cousin of her father's or grandfather's which goes back to 1700s.

Hogg, on the other hand, were mostly about Caheny but had a habit of using the same Christian names making them more difficult to sort out.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Wednesday 15 June 16 18:01 BST (UK)
Thanks, this is great stuff.

I would be interested to see if my relative (Thomas Boyd born in 1784) was a relative from the Alfred Boyd Tree in the 1700's. His wife's name was Leticia and she was born in 1786.  They had Thomas Juniior - Born 1820
Jane born - 1823
Margaret Ann born 1830
Nancy - Born 1822

There may have been other children that did not come with them when they immigrated and stayed in Ireland.  I notice both parents were older when having children . 

Do we know what the relationship is between Robert Heaney (married too Jane Wallace) and Thomas Heaney (John Heaneys father) was? 

Thanks!!!!!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 16 June 16 08:49 BST (UK)
The Boyd family tree starts with John Boyd who married his cousin Margaret Boyd c1750 and moved from Lismoyle to Collins c1784. They did have a son Thomas Boyd born c1787 who moved to Killykergan but he married Jane ? . Their son Thomas married Morrow and went to Boston, Mass. so definately not the same family.

Found out last night (still going through old papers and checking with other resources) that Robert "Robin" Heaney had a brother Thomas so Robert can't be a brother of William, Ann & Thomas.

Robert "Robin" Heaney married Jane Wallace, His brother-

Thomas Heney (d. July 1856), stonemason, Moneydig, m. Jane.
The Will of Thomas Heney late of Moneydig in the County of Londonderry Stone Mason deceased who died in July 1856 at Moneydig aforesaid was proved [21 Apr.1858] at Londonderry by the oath of Daniel Richmond of Boveady in the said County Farmer one of the Executors. Effects under £200. Will dated 21 Jan.1843 mentions wife Jane, sons James & Thomas, daughters Jane & Anne, brother Robert Heney of Cullycapple (executor). William Heney, schoolmaster, Cullycapple swore oath that he was the William Heney who drafted and witnessed Will putting date as 21 Jan.1823 by mistake. Probate granted to Daniel Richmond, Robert Heney having renounced.
1.   James Heney (alive 1843).
2.   Jane Heney (alive 1843).
3.   Thomas Heaney (c1827/1830-1875) m.(1854) Maria Gray (d.1909)
     1.   Mary Ann Heaney (1858)
     2.   Maria Heaney (1860)
     3.   Thomas James Heaney (1862)
     4.   Samuel Gray Heaney (1865-1891)
     5.   Robert John Heaney (1867)
     6.   John Heaney (1868)
4.   Anne Heney (d.aft.1901) m.(1857) John Boyd (1896). No children mentioned in John's Will.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Sunday 19 June 16 21:24 BST (UK)
Hi

I did rely to your other request.  Hope you received it. 

I can send a few pictures of my grandmother, Etherl Boyd Heaney who was John Heaney's granddaughter and Thomas Heaneys Great Granddaughter. 

LMS

Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 02 August 16 09:12 BST (UK)
Going through papers the other day and came across this which I thought would be of interest-

The Northern Whig, 22 Aug.1934: TO LET. "Hazel Bank," Mullahinch, Aghadowey, containing 2 sitting-rooms, 4 bedrooms, bathroom (h. & c. water); bus service passing door to and from Coleraine and Kilrea.- Apply to Hugh Fleming Caheney, Moneydig, Garvagh.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Wednesday 03 August 16 04:09 BST (UK)
Thank you!  I would love to come to Ireland in 2017 and come to where my Heaney, Brown and Hogg relatives were from.  Still trying to figure out where Thomas Boyd married to Leticia Boyd were from.  THOMAS Boyd was a successful stonemason when he came to New York City in about 1839 to 1840.

They were strong Presbyterians who were members of the Charles Street Scotch Presbyterian church.  John Heaney and Margaret Ann Boyd married there on December 24, 1850. 

Do we know if anyone who let the 1934 apartment in Moneydig was a relative?

Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 03 August 16 07:55 BST (UK)
Will have to check the valuation records to see who owned Hazel Bank in 1929 but it was the whole house for rent. Hot and cold water at that time would have made it quite a good place- we didn't get that until 1960s!

Hugh Fleming was probably just the agent helping with the arrangements. He had a grocery shop in Caheney but originally came from Vow across the Bann in County Antrim. His wife was Maggie Kennedy of Moneydig and they had 2 daughters. Hugh died in 1950 and wife in 1960.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Thursday 04 August 16 03:48 BST (UK)
Interesting, The Browns, Hoggs and Jane Hennerys family all came from Caheny, Garvaugh and Moneydig!  One of Robert Brwons daughters (Martha Brown Hoggs sister) married a Kennedy.  I need to look up which one. I think it was John Kennedy who was executor of Robert Browns will.

I have taken a break this Summer from the research but will start up again soon!  I look forward to getting the information you send. Is there a picture of this place that was for rent b Mr> Fleming?
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Friday 05 August 16 15:29 BST (UK)
Aghadowey,

I would love to send you a couple of pictures of my paternal grandmother, Ethel Boyd Heaney.  She would have been John Heaney's only grandchild.  He had 2 children, Jame Boyd Heaney and Thomas Boyd Heaney, but Jane died at 28 and never married.  Thomas B. Heaney only had one child, my grandmother.  Should I send them to your email?  I believe you sent me that at one time.  Let me know what you would prefer.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Saturday 01 July 17 15:37 BST (UK)
Hi from Irish Lynn!  Half way through 2017 already and i have not made it back to Ireland.  Don't think it will be this year, but hoping for 2018 and a trip up to Coleraine and Garvaugh and Caheny! 

Just wanted to say hi and to thank you for opening the doors to so many of my Brown, Hoag and Heaney families.  I still am perplexed by the Thomas and Leticia Boyd side.  But i will keep researching.

How are you doing?  I am hoping to get a long weekend to Nrthern ireland in March 2018 after a Conference in Amsterdam.  Will keep you posted.  All the best, Irish Lynn!!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Amalia on Tuesday 11 July 17 17:58 BST (UK)
I am interested to see if the marriage of Margaret Heaney in 1855 to John Doherty in Coleraine are the parents of Annie E(Elizabeth) Doherty born 1857 NY,died 1929 as Annie E Raedy.
Any family tree on Dnaiel Heaney of Coleraine? Thanks
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 July 17 18:11 BST (UK)
I am interested to see if the marriage of Margaret Heaney in 1855 to John Doherty in Coleraine are the parents of Annie E(Elizabeth) Doherty born 1857 NY,died 1929 as Annie E Raedy.
Any family tree on Dnaiel Heaney of Coleraine? Thanks

John Doherty of Bovagh married 1855 in Coleraine Registry Office to Margaret Heaney of Cullycapple but they were both from Aghadowey Parish and stayed there. So, not the same family as Annie Raedy's.

Hi from Irish Lynn!  Half way through 2017 already and i have not made it back to Ireland.  Don't think it will be this year, but hoping for 2018 and a trip up to Coleraine and Garvaugh and Caheny! 

Just wanted to say hi and to thank you for opening the doors to so many of my Brown, Hoag and Heaney families.  I still am perplexed by the Thomas and Leticia Boyd side.  But i will keep researching.
How are you doing?  I am hoping to get a long weekend to Nrthern ireland in March 2018 after a Conference in Amsterdam.  Will keep you posted.  All the best, Irish Lynn!!
Glad that you are still hoping to visit. Let me know when you start planning your trip  :)
Title: Re: Alexander Brown and wife Martha, parents of Robert Brown of Bovaugh
Post by: Irish Lynn on Wednesday 12 July 17 01:34 BST (UK)
Hi from Irish Lynn

Does anyone have information on where Alexander Brown from the Garvaugh area was from/born?  His family including son RobertBrown (my great xs 3 grandfather) were listed in the 1796 Garvaugh Presbyterian church's membership.  I would assume he (Alexander) was born around 1750-1760 timeframe.  I cannot find any information on him.  There were about 10 children, Robert Brown being one of the younger ones.   Also a son Samuel, Thomas , Alexander, daughter Jane, Martha to name a few more. 

Many Thanks!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Wednesday 12 July 17 01:38 BST (UK)
Aghadowey,

Will contact you in the Fall for ideas on where to stay in and around Garvaugh and Cullycapple.  Would like to spend 2-3 days visiting that area! 

Cheers, Irish Lynn
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Elainera on Friday 21 August 20 06:14 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am the great great granddaughter of Daniel Thomson Heaney. Thank you for all of the wonderful research on the Heaney family!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Linda Houston on Tuesday 13 October 20 08:32 BST (UK)
Hi, great to read all your posts on the Heaney's of Cullycapple. I am a descendent of Thomas Boyd (Ballyclough) who married Margaret "Peggy" Heaney. I was born in Strabane, Ireland but now live in Australia. Was home in Nov 2019 but did not know of this Boyd link then. Does anyone know when this Boyd group came to Ireland from Scotland? I know they go to Scotland due to matching DNA I have with Boyds of Glasgow.
Thanks again for all the info.
Linda
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 13 October 20 09:02 BST (UK)
Not sure exactly how you fit into the family tree but the Boyds have been in this area many generations. I can only trace these Boyds back to a John Boyd who married his cousin Margaret Boyd circa 1750.
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi Linda Houston!


Would love to hear your relationship with Thomas Boyd and Leticia Wallace! Did they immigrate to New York?  This is the one acre of my dads paternal side that i have not been able to get information on from Coleraine/Derry arena.  I know Thomas B. Was born around 1785 and died in 1865 in NYC and is buried there.  The family asked that the obituary be sent to the Coleraine Chronicle.
Please share any of your details and would love t keep the communication going...
Title: Re: Thomas and Leticia Boyd
Post by: Irish Lynn on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:13 BST (UK)
Hi again Linda - Looks like we are both trying to find the Scottish link for the Boyds!  I too am wanting to find that.

I know they were originally from Scotland (my father told me that), but do not know when the first Boyds came to Northern Ireland.  Hoping its not as far back as the Ulster Plantation - that would be a lot to research! 

I am on ancestry and have had my DNA done - no Boyds turned up as yet...
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Monday 02 November 20 23:07 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey, its Irish Lynn again trying to find out more on the Thomas Heaney married to Anne Thompson family.  I am related to John Heaney Thomas’s oldest son who came to NYCity and died in 1863.  Do you know who John Heaneys paternal grandparents are?  I cannot determine if it might be William Heaney or John Heaney as Thomas’s (born in 1801) father.  Kind of at a standstill there.  I have looked through all the previous threads and there seem to be 3 main Heaney family’s that i am looking at. 

I am also asking on behalf of another Heaney cousin who is the great times 3 granddaughter of Daniel Heaney who came to New York City and John Heaneys younger brother.  You have been the person that has provided me the best information over the last 3 years! 

Hope you are doing fine and give my best to Leslie when next you see him!  Warm Regards!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 02 November 20 23:33 GMT (UK)
Thomas' parents-
William Heaney (d.1845/1863), Cullycapple, m. Ann (c1782-9 Mar.1869).
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Irish Lynn on Tuesday 03 November 20 00:15 GMT (UK)
Wow, that was fast - thank you!

I will plug that in and see where I can go from there. 
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Rzygrl on Monday 11 April 22 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi,new here regarding Daniel Heaney, farmer, m. Mary (c1796-1862)
1. Mary Jane Heaney m.(1848) John Moon
2. Margaret Heaney m.(1855) John Doherty
3. Sarah Anne Heaney, youngest daughter, m.(1863) Robert Mayben I know its an old post,but I spotted this and trying to clear up some  misinformation/mistakes on my treeI had my Heaneys crossed John Doherty is my 2nd great grandfather, still looking for his parents Alexander? and anything on Daniel Heaney 1796 wife/parents.Thanks!
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 April 22 08:11 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rooschat  :)

Marriage of Margaret Heaney & John Doherty- his residence at time of marriage was Bovagh and father given as John Doherty not Alexander-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09487/5438227.pdf
Margaret died in childbirth and John Doherty married second (1888) Ann Jane Wallace. His father again listed as John Doherty but this time 'landsteward' rather than labourer-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5925768.pdf
Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 12 April 22 09:57 BST (UK)

Welcome also to RootsChat  :)

Just putting some more links up for others who may be able to help-

1848 marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09346/5384004.pdf

1863 marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1863/09647/5498564.pdf

Cullycapple townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/agivey/cullycapple/


KG

Title: Re: Thomas Heaney and Ann Thomson
Post by: Rzygrl on Tuesday 12 April 22 16:39 BST (UK)
Thanks, I found Daniel Heaney  died November 1882 with John Doherty son in law present