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Title: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Wednesday 01 June 16 22:54 BST (UK)
Hi guys,

I wonder if anyone can help me please?

I have found death information for my great uncle from Hastings, UK who died in 1922 while serving onboard a Royal Naval ship that took him to a naval hospital in Gibraltar where unfortunately he died from a short illness and he was buried there.  I only know the cause of death and date from his service records online at National Archives but would like to get a death certificate but I dont know where to actually get one from if anyone can help.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Ann  :)

Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 01 June 16 23:11 BST (UK)
Hi Ann

Do you want to post his name?
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 01 June 16 23:13 BST (UK)
have you searched here?

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/british-nationals-died-overseas-1818-2005

if there's an entry you can apply to the GRO for a copy in the usual way
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Wednesday 01 June 16 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi dawnsh,

Hope your well  :)

I tried Find My Past but couldn't find anything.

His name is Edward John Lamb, he died 28th February 1922 and he was serving on HMS Ramilies at the time, i think he was 20yrs old when he died.

Ann
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 02 June 16 00:03 BST (UK)
you would have thought that the Navy would have reported his death to the consulate but maybe not.

If you are based in the UK you could try phoning the GRO on 0300 123 1837 and ask them to check their records, maybe he hasn't been transcribed or maybe his death wasn't reported to the consulate.

His death might just have been reprted locally, in which case there's a link here

https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/new/civil-status-registration-office

If you can wait to the end of the week, I'm going to the British Library and can check the GRO fiche there
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Thursday 02 June 16 00:16 BST (UK)
Oh if you wouldn't mind checking, that would be fantastic  :) 

I'm working till about 7pm all this week so i wont have chance to phone the GRO.

Thank you so much Dawn    :D
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 02 June 16 00:34 BST (UK)
they're open to 8pm and 9-4 on Saturdays

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp

but I will check, most probably on Friday
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Thursday 02 June 16 00:53 BST (UK)
I will give them a quick try after work and see what they say then let you know


 :D
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: barryd on Thursday 02 June 16 04:57 BST (UK)
The family History Library has records of deaths in Gibraltar.whether a serviceman would get onto a civillian register I do not know. Scroll down to near the end - 1707672 Items 2-5

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/440722?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Thursday 02 June 16 11:41 BST (UK)
The family History Library has records of deaths in Gibraltar.whether a serviceman would get onto a civillian register I do not know. Scroll down to near the end - 1707672 Items 2-5

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/440722?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Hi barryd,

I will certainly have a look at this on my dinner hour.

Thank you

Ann  :D
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Thursday 02 June 16 19:31 BST (UK)
you would have thought that the Navy would have reported his death to the consulate but maybe not.

If you are based in the UK you could try phoning the GRO on 0300 123 1837 and ask them to check their records, maybe he hasn't been transcribed or maybe his death wasn't reported to the consulate.

His death might just have been reprted locally, in which case there's a link here

https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/new/civil-status-registration-office

If you can wait to the end of the week, I'm going to the British Library and can check the GRO fiche there

Hi dawn,

I got through to the GRO. They said that they should definately have a record of Edwards death especially since he died on shore but it will take about 2/3 weeks for them to locate him but they will keep me informed.

Ann ;)
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 02 June 16 20:17 BST (UK)
I will still check for you but I know the GRO does hold some types of military records that do not appear on microfiche.
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: benn34 on Thursday 02 June 16 20:37 BST (UK)
Bless u dawn, thank you.


 :D
Title: Re: GIBRALTAR - where can I get a death certificate from?
Post by: barryd on Friday 10 June 16 02:53 BST (UK)
I looked at film 1707672 Items 2-5 and Edward John Lamb's death was not reported on it. I saw no military people people recorded on the Gibraltar Death Records in the 1922 year. The majority of the deceased are local people who were living there. All Civilians. A few English  people died there too but again all civilians.

However looking into the Gibraltar records I discovered I have a birth which I never had checked into on my own extended line. Fanny Jago registered nameless, born 10 March 1871. The Gibraltar Registers at that time had a system where a child's birthdate and father/mother and address could be recorded and in the last column the child's first names could be added later which is what Fanny's  parents did. Father (Major) John Jago, 74th Highland Division  and mother Fanny Wiley, a native of Gibraltar. I seems to me the parents were not married. The baby ended up in Lake County, California, USA where she died 23 February 1958.