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Title: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Friday 17 June 16 12:07 BST (UK)
hi all
I hope some one may help me im looking for any info regarding William j downing  family from llanelly   I think he married Florence Elizabeth harris in 1920 if so her father was called Samuel harris and mother harriet clements  .   Florence was born in 5 aug 1899 Birmingham  if this is the right person im looking for she is my grand dad sister his name was  Thomas Frederick  harris
kind regards
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 17 June 16 12:14 BST (UK)
Check the 39 index Llanelly,  it has the correct birthdate for Florence E you stated and married to William so marriage you mention correct.

Marriages Mar 1920   
Downing William J Llanelly 11a 2099    
Same page - Harris Florence E   

PS This Llanelly is in Carmarthenshire 😀

Likely Births Sep 1895
Downing William Joseph  Wolverhampton 6b 687

Duplicate thread Threads merged.

Cas
Title: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:02 GMT (UK)
hi all
firstly im not sure if im in the right part of wales im looking for info regarding william j downing family he married florence e harris in 1920 in wales i hope someone canhelp
kind regards
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:16 GMT (UK)
When was he born and where?

If you have no other info on him apart from the marriage you will need to buy a copy of the cert to get his age and fathers name

Have you looked him up on the 1911 census or the 1939 register?
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:19 GMT (UK)
I think you may be in the wrong area - the marriage was in Llanelly in Carmarthenshire


Topic moved.
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:22 GMT (UK)
Freebmd shows the marriage was in the Llanelly RD so not Caernarvonshire - Carmarthenshire

Plenty of William J Downing births on freebmd - what was his middle name?  This will be shown on his marriage cert

When and where did he die?  If he died 1969 onwards his full birthdate will be on his death reg.
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK)
What was Florence's middle name and when and where did she die.  No births in Carmarthenshire for Downing/Harris
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 March 17 19:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks Cas

Notice you mention Carmarthenshire and the 1939 register as well as buying a copy of the 1920 marriage cert
 
Mrs Bongo - using the advice given on your previous thread - what additional info have you found?

Using the freebmd birth reference given - you can now find a mothers maiden name using this link - registration is free if you don't already have a GRO registration

However - you first need to buy a copy of the marriage cert to get his fathers name then look for him on the 1901/1911 census to find the whole family

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp


Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 01 March 17 20:05 GMT (UK)
Duplicate thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750514.9

Mrs Bongo, going by GRO index the mothers maiden name is Churchill

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    
DOWNING, WILLIAM  JOSEPH     CHURCHILL 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 687

There is this marriage

Marriages Jun Q 1894   
Churchill    Harriet        Wolverhampton    6b   730    
Downing    John Thomas   (same page)

1901 census has them as boarders with the Burden family, but you really need the Downing/Harris marriage to confirm his father.

1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSZ3-WLM

unable to post full details due to copyright same family in Wales  in 1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JK-FGT

Cas

 
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Thursday 02 March 17 16:13 GMT (UK)
hi can you tell if there was any children
kind regards
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 02 March 17 17:39 GMT (UK)
As previously advised.  You need to look them up on the 1911 census for further information.  Cas has given you the link to the 1901 entry.

Births from the September qtr 1911 show mothers maiden name so you can use freebmd to establish if  further children were born after 1911
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Tuesday 07 March 17 17:11 GMT (UK)
hi all
william j downing passed away in 1990 in llanei carmarhenshire  his wife florence had already  passed away  i cant seem to find if then had children
kind regards karen
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 07 March 17 19:18 GMT (UK)
Please read previous replies
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Tuesday 07 March 17 19:30 GMT (UK)
hi
if there  got married in 1920 in wales  it  would mean children would be born after that im stuck sorry carol
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 07 March 17 19:59 GMT (UK)
Quote
william j downing passed away in 1990 in llanei carmarhenshire

Birth date shown as 29.6.1895 on death reg

Re: children

Freebmd has a number of Downing/Harris birth but not in Wales.  Have you looked them up on the 1939 register?
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: mrs bongo on Tuesday 07 March 17 20:34 GMT (UK)
sorry im not on find my past site
kind regards
Title: Re: william j downing
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 08 March 17 00:44 GMT (UK)
Info from the 1939 register cannot be published on Rootschat due to restrictions.  You can search the index for free on FindMyPast but will have to buy credits to view the full entry