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Title: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 13:13 BST (UK)
Joseph Reilly (dock labourer) and Mary Catherine Ennis marry on 18 Sept 1925 in St Vincent de Pauls Church in Liverpool. Joseph is 25 years old, born on 15 Mar 1900 in Co. Laois, Ireland. He dies on 19 Apr 1977 in the Royal Southern Hospital, Liverpool. His death certificate states his usual address as 9 Greenheys Heights, Liverpool.

I have a death certificate which I strongly believe is that of Mary Catherine, although is says Mary Elizabeth (maiden name Ennis). Her date of birth on the death certificate is 21 Aug 1902, in Liverpool. Furthermore, the death certificate states that she is widow of Joseph Reilly, dock labourer.  Her usual address is given as 9 Heysmoor Heights, Liverpool.

In the 1939 Register on FindMyPast, I find Joseph Reilly, with the correct DOB, living alone, at 5 Dwerryhouse Street, Liverpool.

I seem to be unable to find Mary Elizabeth/Mary Catherine in 1939. Can anyone of you help?

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 13:15 BST (UK)
Mary Elizabeth Reilly dies on 23 Jan 1982 in Liverpool. (Sorry for the omission.)

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 26 June 16 15:20 BST (UK)
Hi NicolaasMars

We can't help with this request here at Rootschat due to the terms and conditions at FindMyPast, only make suggestions.

on reading other topics she may have been missed if she was in hospital or away from home or on holiday.

The 1939 register is one of many that were compiled for the issue of registration cards and ration books. She would have needed to be in one of them to qualify. But this is the only one online. (eg babies born after this date were recorded elsewhere)

So have you searched just by using her date of birth to see if she is elsewhere?
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 15:52 BST (UK)
Yes, I did search using just her full date of birth, without success.

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 26 June 16 15:59 BST (UK)
Did they have any children, there are some possibilities on freebmd. If so have you found them in 1939
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 26 June 16 16:08 BST (UK)
Yes, I did search using just her full date of birth, without success.

Nicolaas

I have found very few people with the correct year of birth,a lot know their birthday but not the year.
So if you try by her birthdate,be a bit inventive  ;D
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 17:14 BST (UK)
Yes, they did have a number of children. Searching for these did not help, nor did searching on Mary's day-and-month of birth (but not year) only. My tentative conclusion is that mother and children were temporarily in Ireland, but I cannot be certain.

Thanks for the help.

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: ScouseBoy on Sunday 26 June 16 18:33 BST (UK)
Joseph Reilly (dock labourer) and Mary Catherine Ennis marry on 18 Sept 1925 in St Vincent de Pauls Church in Liverpool. Joseph is 25 years old, born on 15 Mar 1900 in Co. Laois, Ireland. He dies on 19 Apr 1977 in the Royal Southern Hospital, Liverpool. His death certificate states his usual address as 9 Greenheys Heights, Liverpool.

I have a death certificate which I strongly believe is that of Mary Catherine, although is says Mary Elizabeth (maiden name Ennis). Her date of birth on the death certificate is 21 Aug 1902, in Liverpool. Furthermore, the death certificate states that she is widow of Joseph Reilly, dock labourer.  Her usual address is given as 9 Heysmoor Heights, Liverpool.

In the 1939 Register on FindMyPast, I find Joseph Reilly, with the correct DOB, living alone, at 5 Dwerryhouse Street, Liverpool.

I seem to be unable to find Mary Elizabeth/Mary Catherine in 1939. Can anyone of you help?

Nicolaas
Are you sure that it is Dwerryhouse  Street   and not  Dwerryhouse Lane.
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 18:42 BST (UK)
The transcription reads "Dwerryhouse Street"; the original shows "Dwerryhouse St".

At the end of the entry is a remark in red: "REF C1 293  ER 3A". Could that be a clue?

Nicolaas
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: ScouseBoy on Sunday 26 June 16 19:02 BST (UK)
Joseph Reilly (dock labourer) and Mary Catherine Ennis marry on 18 Sept 1925 in St Vincent de Pauls Church in Liverpool. Joseph is 25 years old, born on 15 Mar 1900 in Co. Laois, Ireland. He dies on 19 Apr 1977 in the Royal Southern Hospital, Liverpool. His death certificate states his usual address as 9 Greenheys Heights, Liverpool.

I have a death certificate which I strongly believe is that of Mary Catherine, although is says Mary Elizabeth (maiden name Ennis). Her date of birth on the death certificate is 21 Aug 1902, in Liverpool. Furthermore, the death certificate states that she is widow of Joseph Reilly, dock labourer.  Her usual address is given as 9 Heysmoor Heights, Liverpool.

In the 1939 Register on FindMyPast, I find Joseph Reilly, with the correct DOB, living alone, at 5 Dwerryhouse Street, Liverpool.

I seem to be unable to find Mary Elizabeth/Mary Catherine in 1939. Can anyone of you help?

Nicolaas
   Just had a thought,   Perhaps they had separated  by 1939.     A lot of people in Liverpool  worked on ships,   she could have  worked  in housekeeping or the kitchens  or dining rooms  of Cruise ships   or Atlantic Liners.      She may have been away at sea  on the day  of the National Register being taken.
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 26 June 16 19:07 BST (UK)
When was the youngest child born? Have you considered the idea that Mary Catherine might have died before 1939 and Joseph later married Mary Elizabeth?
Title: Re: Where is Mary Elizabeth Reilly in 1939?
Post by: NicolaasMars on Sunday 26 June 16 19:17 BST (UK)
The first child was born in 1926; the last in 1946.