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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Noy1818 on Monday 27 June 16 05:16 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I just found one of the NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Books, and found William Baldry, the convict who was friends with Michael Noy (my 3rd great grandfather). Below is what it says under 'General remarks'. I can read 'Lost left eye' (i wonder how he lost it!) and I think it is says 'scar underneath' but I am not 100% sure. It says something underneath it all that looks like 'do' and again I am unsure if this is relevant to the above text. The other description is the general remarks on his ticket of leave. I am terrible at reading old documents so if someone could help 'translate' this one I would really appreciate it ;D
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Blind of left eye, eyebrows meeting, large scar on left cheekbone ... scar on arm - (or possibly 'on same') - two moles upper part of right arm, mark of a burn above the left breast, scar back of
'do' is ditto and in likewise.
Jamjar
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... scar on arm - (or possibly 'on same')
'Nose a little cocked. Scar on same.'
He had an interesting life, didn't he :o
Carol
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Excellent, Carol!
Yes, poor bugger's been in the wars. :'(
Jamjar
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Thank you! :) :D ;D He must have been a tough bloke! Considering he made a living of sweeping chimneys and was sent over to Australia when he was only 14 years old, I think he did well to survive!
I am currently writing up some short stories (to make into a bigger book) about my convict ancestors and the description really helps make it more factual!
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If someone could also help decipher the writing that is scribbled over the top of his ticket of freedom, it would be a great help to me.
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4th July 1850
Rew .?.? as a pauper by Mr Ryans order to proceed to Windsor.
Wiggy
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By Mr Ryan's order to ... Windsor.
Yes, Wiggy it is 'proceed'.
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Is the first word 'received' shortened?
Cas
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Ah, yes, Cas ;D One word to go.
Jamjar
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Recd( received ) a pass ? ( with a long s ).
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'A pass' makes sense.
Jamjar
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Yep. That makes sense.
So . . . Rec'd a pass as a pauper by Mr Ryan's order to proceed to Windsor.
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I wonder were 'Windsor' was, if in Oz..
What a bruiser, a great survivor, hats off to the guy😳
Cas
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Not far north westish of Sydney!
It would have been a farming area at the time.
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It's out Penrith, Richmond way, out of Sydney, NSW.
Is a lovely spot now-a-days.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor,_New_South_Wales
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Windsor+NSW+2756/@-33.5223151,150.7540506,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x6b0d62640e2e1063:0x5017d681632d060?hl=en-au
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Not far north westish of Sydney!
It would have been a farming area at the time. Could still have farms, but suspect mainly suburbs these days.
It's out Penrith, Richmond way, out of Sydney, NSW.
Is a lovely spot now-a-days.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Windsor+NSW+2756/@-33.5223151,150.7540506,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x6b0d62640e2e1063:0x5017d681632d060?hl=en-au
Aww maybe he had some joy and contentment after all, I like Mr Ryan👍
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Only 1 William Baldry death on NSWBDM.
705/1876 William A Baldry father William and mother Maria L. Registered SYDNEY
Jamjar
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What exactly does 'Rec'd a pass as a pauper by Mr Ryan's order to proceed to Windsor' mean? I am presuming it is something to do with being aloud into Windsor as a pauper or am I lost in another world? ???
What a coincidence though! Michael Noy, his old pal was living down in Windsor until he died in 1847. I will be buying that particular death certificate and I am hoping it doesn't take to long to arrive in the mail! This is the real big lead I have found and I thank you all for helping out once again. Just like Noy, I cannot find anything on his life back in England apart from the records of his conviction, but maybe the death certificate might bring some more light to the situation.
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It appears that being classed as a pauper was a type of release but still with restrictions.
Try this: http://eprints.utas.edu.au/17325/1/whole-Hrgrave-thesis.pdf
Jamjar
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William BALDRY/BALDREY
Arrived 1834 per Fairlie, tried Colchester, Essex.
Received Ticket of Leave in 1843 #1580, allowed to remain in the District of Liverpool (Liverpool in New South Wales) see NSW State Records reel 949. This TL was cancelled, and William, Protestant, Labourer, was sent to HP Barracks (Hyde Park Barracks, Sydney) 30 August 1844
Received Ticket of Leave in 1845 #1826, allowed to remain in the District of Windsor (Windsor in New South Wales) see NSW State Records reel 957
Received Ticket of Leave Passport 18 March 1846, #358, on recommendation of the Merlon Bench
Received Certificate of Freedom 6 July 1847
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/convicts-guide
You will also find official records for the same chap under the name of Wm BALDRAY, William BALDRAY, and you will find the ship listed as Fairlie, Fairley, Farely, Lairlie (someone mis-read the 19th Century handwritten F for an L) and other variations.
He may have been convicted of some colonial crimes, as he seems to have served time in Parramatta Gaol after receiving the C of F in 1847
JM
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Just knew you'd be along with the full 'low-down' JM!! :D
Hooray for you!! ;)
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Thank you Jamjar and JM! ;D The links and resources always help bring their life to light. It seems he had a rather tough life didn't he! I am hoping the end of his story won't be as harsh as the start and middle.