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Title: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Friday 15 July 16 08:20 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on my gt gt grandfather who I understand lived in Roseneath Clynder(?) , also how can I trace where he was buried and who his parents might have been.
I am assuming he was an asbestos manufacturer, think someone told me once he was a manufacturing chemist so its more than likely I have got both wrong.
Thank you.
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 15 July 16 19:26 BST (UK)
You haven't given any details of his birthyear.

Scotlands people is the website for Scottish BMD's and it is a pay per view site via purchase of credits

If he died from 1855 onwards - his parents names and mothers maiden name will be shown on his death cert.  The same info is available on a marriage cert from 1855 onwards

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

The 1901 census has nearly 47,000 entries for that name living in Dunbartonshire so we really need to narrow it down (eg ) what was his wife's name and the names and birthyears of any of their children

Please do not post details of anybody who may still be alive
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 15 July 16 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi Thwarted and Carole

A v. old post on another info with some details on John Robertson http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ROBERTSON/1997-11/0880171091

Would be good to confirm and verify the details showing on there for yourself to make sure info is correct. Which of their children are you connected to? 1901 census is showing:

John Robertson 59 Retired Alcoter (?Asbestos) Manufacturer b. Pitlochry, Perthshire
Lizzie Robertson 66 b. England
Mary Robertson 33 b. Glasgow
Alexander Robertson 35 Analytical Chemist b. Nitshill, Renfrew
Effie Robertson 24 b. Nitshill, Renfrew
Beatrice Robertson 22 b. Nitshill, Renfrew

Address: Glenowan, Roseneath, Dumbartonshire

Monica  :)
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 15 July 16 21:27 BST (UK)
There is an entry in the Wills & Testament database on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which can be downloaded (pay to view):

John ROBERTSON - 28/11/1913   - ROSENEATH, DUMBARTONSHIRE, D. 07/07/1913 AT ROSENEATH, INTESTATE. DUMBARTON SHERIFF COURT - Ref SC65/35/20 - 7 pages.

Monica
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 15 July 16 21:58 BST (UK)
Regarding occupations, likely John may show with a couple of different occupations. 1881, in Leveren, Eastwood Renfrewshire, shows him as:

John Robertson 39 Millboard Maker b. Perth, Perthshire
Elizebeth Robertson 45 b. England
Elizebth Robertson 16
Cathrin Robertson 15
Mary Robertson 13
John Robertson 10
Annie Robertson 7
Alexander Robertson 5
Euphemia Robertson 4
Beatrice Robertson 2
Agnes Currie 17 servant

By 1891, with a move to Roseneath, he shows as Asbestos Manufacturer.

Monica
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 15 July 16 22:18 BST (UK)
Hi twarted he is buried in the Helensburgh Cemetery if you have access to An....y there is a photo of his grave stone or if you wish you can send me a p m with e-mail address I can take a photo for you  at the weekend
Rosie
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Saturday 16 July 16 06:06 BST (UK)
Hi Monica,
Thanks for your reply, my connection to the family is via my grandfather Alexander Robertson, we have a copy of a letter requesting some hair restorer with a rather ringing endorsement of its benefits dated 1907 when he was living in Manchester, we had no idea that Alexander was a analytical chemist, he was a fruit grower in South Australia and passed away living with our family in 1948.
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Saturday 16 July 16 06:26 BST (UK)
Thanks you to everyone who responded to my request, all of the information that has been provided is relevant to my family.
My connection is through my grandfather Alexander Robertson who passed away in Adelaide South Australia in 1948 and my father Alexander Robertson who passed away also in Adelaide in 1998.
You have given me a lot of leads to follow up. If I wanted to go back further than the 1841 census (which should include John's birthdate) where would I start looking?
Again many thanks for all your assistance.
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 16 July 16 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi Brian got picture will e-mail it to you as you have information from the census up to 1841 probably the next thing would be church records ...As you have the date when John died a copy of his death on Scotlands People will give you his parent's names as Carole has said ..Another source would be newspapers Monica will probably be able to help
Rosie
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Saturday 16 July 16 11:51 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Thanks for your response(s), I am heading away from my computer for 4 days so anything that you send through I won't get to see until Wednesday.
Cheers
Brian R.
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: BenArthur on Sunday 16 July 17 11:11 BST (UK)
Hello Brian

I stumbled across this whilst doing some research. I live in your Great Grandfather's (ancestral) home in Scotland and have been visited by other Robertson descendants over many years.  I'm not sure if you are still active on this site, or if you will receive this message. I'm happy to share my information with you, if you message me.

Regards

Dominic
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Sunday 16 July 17 13:03 BST (UK)
Hi Dominic,
Many thanks for getting in touch with me, I really appreciate it.
We were in Scotland looking for our relatives last in 1997 and looked up the house (my memory is s bit hazy at the moment) I think it was called Roseneath in Clynder overlooking the Loch, there was a little stream running alongside the L/H boundary.
We have several photographs of my Great grandfathers high backed cane chairs with their initials worked into the cane as well as my great aunts standing outside the house. I understand that they are buried in Helensburgh. My grandfather Alexander was an industrial chemist who became an orchardist in South Australia.
I don't have many memories of my grand father who passed away when I was 5-6 years old, what I do remember is the sweet smell of condensed milk which I think he put on most things that he ate.
It would be great to hear from you again.
Cheers
Brian & Marion Robertson.
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: BenArthur on Sunday 16 July 17 16:23 BST (UK)
Brian

Thanks for getting in touch.  I am unable to send a Private Message to you on this topic, at the moment, as I am newly registered and need to have had a minimum number of posts, so I'l continue the dialogue here until I am able to share personal contact information privately.

Have you been in touch with Heather Waters and Bruce White?  They will be your first cousins, once removed, I guess... They have visited the house previously and Heather has shared some good information and photographs.

I have not communicated with her in a while, but I will send an email and see if she will reply.

Regards

Dominic



Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: BenArthur on Sunday 16 July 17 16:27 BST (UK)
Brian

We have been doing some restoration and construction work in the garden and have uncovered a number of interesting artefacts which are likely to be your grandfather, Alexander's. I will take some photographs...

Regards

Dominic
Title: Re: JOHN ROBERTSON asbestos manufacturer?
Post by: Thwarted on Sunday 22 October 17 04:28 BST (UK)
Hi Dominic,
I am getting re-motivated to find out more about my family history and will check the posts more often. In answer to your first post re Heather Robertson, yes we did meet her quite a few years ago when my father was still alive when we went to see my grandmothers grave in South Australia.
Heather has given us a lot of information on our family history. I don't know if she is still alive.
My grandfather (Alexander) was an industrial chemist with a background in what some might describe as snake oil, we have a copy of a letter written to him in 1907 requesting some of his hair restorer, wouldn't mind some of it myself!
Some records show my great-grandfather as an asbestos manufacturer but in the same letter written in 1907 the writer says he is being treated for rheumatism hopefully not with asbestos.
I will send photos of the cane chairs that we have with JR initials on them, also a copy of the letter requesting the hair restorer