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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: kmuttleyjr on Monday 18 July 16 05:25 BST (UK)
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I have searched roots chat and read the sticky post offering links to church records however I could not find an answer. Im looking for online records...if they exist... for St. Columba's Catholic Church Cashel, Glencolumbkille, Donegal, Ireland. Im interested in records for the Curran's who lived nearby in Braade Upper. Does anyone know if the records are only available at the church? And if so are there any alternative sources of information compiled?
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According to this site, the RC records for Glencolumbkille only start in 1880. They are held by the parish priest. LDS have copied them up to 1949, but otherwise no other copies appear to exist:
https://www.johngrenham.com/browse/counties/rcmaps/donegalrc.php#maps/
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donegal resources
http://www.donegalgenealogy.com
then come down the page and click on Glencolumbkille
Curran can be spelt Curren and on Braade Upper, also on griffins Margaret Curran mention at Cashel
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Hello, My Name is Paul Curran. My father, my grandparents and my great grandparents all lived at No 8 Braade Upper. Next door was another Curran family but not relatives. I can trace the burials in St Columbas church graveyard of most of my Irish family. I can only use 1901 and 1911 census records for some of the family and rely on the burial records found on "Ireland reaching out" website and following the link to Glencolmcille and "find a grave" to find some others. I can't find any other records except to be able to make some links to my maternal grandmothers family, McGonagles of Meenadreen and her mothers family McGinlys of Meenacross. Sorry I can't give any more help.
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Paul, thanks for the reply. Our ancestors lived across the street from one another. Yours in house 8 snd mine in house 6 & 7. Is house 8 still standing? I can only find 6&7. I have had luck with Ireland Reaching Out. One researcher said the Curran's might be related but back several generations and from Malinbeg. I added a bunch of graves to find a grave for St. Columba's based on photo's taken by the parish.
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Hello again, I've not been back to Ireland since 1966/7 My cousin Cathal Curran took on the farming at No8 when the uncles became too old. As far as I am aware he still is the freeholder. most of the properties on the north side of the road still appear to hold true to their original footprints, I remember clearly having to walk to the left of my grandparents drive and across to the left in order to reach the other Currans Croft, where I only recall the mother and two sons. John Joseph being one and James John (I think) being the other.
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Paul, John Joseph and my grandfather Hugh were noted as being Volunteers in my great aunt Bridget's obituary.
From I figured out they would have been in the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Brigade, 1st Northern Division, (RO 372). Glencolmcille D Company.
Does any information exist about D Company?
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My father, my grandparents and my great grandparents all lived at No 8 Braade Upper. Next door was another Curran family but not relatives.
Our ancestors lived across the street from one another. Yours in house 8 snd mine in house 6 & 7.
The numbers in the census are just for enumeration (the order in which the enumerator did his round) and are not house numbers so #6 might not have been next to #8 and across from #7, etc.
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Put Glen*cille into the search, brings up a few results for the area
http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/bmhsearch/search.jsp
The * allows for spelling variations on the name.
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Hello to kmuttleyjr in particular, I suspect that the army details you supplied, refer to the Irish Republican Army of about 1920. A difficult time for many in Ireland, what with independence and then civil war. Many people just wanted to get on with their daily lives and not get politically involved. My understanding was that Glen was not exactly a hotbed of activity although some young men of the parish may have been tempted by political persuasion to travel beyond Glen and take part in creating Irish history.
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Kmuttleyjr. It sounds as though Your John Joseph and Hugh would have been one generation before the John Joseph and James John that I mentioned. Since they were aged 14 and 12 at the 1911 census, they seem just the right age to have served at the time of independence and civil war.
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My father, my grandparents and my great grandparents all lived at No 8 Braade Upper. Next door was another Curran family but not relatives.
Our ancestors lived across the street from one another. Yours in house 8 snd mine in house 6 & 7.
I know this is an old thread, but I saw it and couldn't help but reply. My ancestors lived in House 9 in Braade Upper. Don't know what was in the water there, but apparently it's turned us all genealogists.
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Looks like we have house 6, 7, 8, and 9 back together. Fascinating how that works out. I heard a cousin of mine is in town from England seeing about getting house 6/7 back up and livable. It would be a daughter of John Curran who moved to England. His brother James Joseph was the last to live there until his death in 2006. Both John and James are the sons of John Joseph Curran who is the brother of my grandfather Hugh Curran. Id love to get in touch to help her out.
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Hello all, If you look up The Griffiths Valuation 1857 for Glencolmbkille and then Braade Upper you can find Property 6/7 as being tenanted by Bridget and Daniel Curry with No 8 as being tenanted by Mary Curry. So either we were Curry at one time or else the enumerator wrote the name as he heard it. Bearing in mind that this generation were not literate. I have also found my ancestors referred to as Curren and Currin on other documents. The immediate lessorof the properties is probably a solicitor or the like acting as the agent for a wealthy absentee landlord, probably English. The Earl Coyningham crops up as the most likely owner.
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Sorry, I should have said, it looks as though plots 17 and 18 line up with properties 8 and 6/7 respectively. When you compare the historic map to the modern one and Google Earth. It certainly looks that way to me, because as children we used to walk across the road from my grandparents to swim in the stream where there was a small waterfall and reasonably deep enough water.