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Title: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 14:04 BST (UK)
Moderator comment: another similar post here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752481.0

my 2nd great grandad matheww green help find his birth and parents sibblings etc , he was married in 1866 to cathrine hanley at hartlepool durham his father named as matthew a labourer  i have the following on him on his marriage he was aged 23yr on his death again hartlepool he was 75 , i have him in 1881 born 1847born ireland , in 1891 born 1848 born sligo in 1901 born 1853 born ireland , in 1911 1843 born seaforth durham , his wife was alos born sligo can any one find his birth and parents etc
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 20 July 16 14:34 BST (UK)
Related post.....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752481.0

Annie
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 14:36 BST (UK)
i asked for this post to be moved to ireland and i got word back saying it had
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 15:43 BST (UK)
What religion was he?

RC registers are online, free
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 15:46 BST (UK)
I dont know if he was cathlic or prodistant sorry but where can i view the cathlic records
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 15:57 BST (UK)
I dont know if he was cathlic or prodistant sorry but where can i view the cathlic records


You've got his marriage certificate. Did he marry in a Roman Catholic or Protestant church?
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:00 BST (UK)
I dont know what the church was i dont know the difference , if you give me the site to search the cathlic records i will look there
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:14 BST (UK)
If you tell us the name of the church they married in (exactly what it says) that will be suffice.

Annie
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:19 BST (UK)
This thread is on the SLIGO board but the other is on IRELAND. Really not a good idea to have more than one topic as duplication causes needless confusion and extra work.

I dont know what the church was i dont know the difference , if you give me the site to search the cathlic records i will look there
The marriage certificate will give that place the marriage took place- was it a church or registry office?

Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864

Online Catholic Parish Registers are here but you'll need to browse by parish-
http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:32 BST (UK)
The church was st marys hartlepool
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:35 BST (UK)
I didnt know there was another post on ireland board maybe some one could remove it or can it be moved to this one
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:44 BST (UK)
The church was st marys hartlepool

Catholic Church but doesn't mean both were of the Catholic religion either but it's a good pointer for now  :P

My parents married in a Catholic Church although my mother was an Atheist.

I didnt know there was another post on ireland board

No problem with more than 1 post as long as people have links so as not to duplicate efforts......
looking up things which have already been addressed.

Annie
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 16:49 BST (UK)
If st marys was a cathlolic church then i think both bride and groom were catholic as both were born sligo and matthew and cathrins brother were in the newspaper fighting together against prodistants but when i discovered this i didnt know what religion he was
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:05 BST (UK)
Someone else is interested in the same family
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.ireland.sli.general/8626/mb.ashx
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:11 BST (UK)
I discovered last month she was my relative through dna ,
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:23 BST (UK)
I didnt know there was another post on ireland board maybe some one could remove it or can it be moved to this one

The original thread on IRELAND board was started only 2 hours before you started this one on SLIGO board so how could you not know it was there  ??? Four pages of replies there so far  :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752481.msg6010768#msg6010768
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:27 BST (UK)
I firstly had the thread on the general board then some one suggested it got moved to ireland thread in between the moderator moving it i had placed this thread , that is how i didnt know there were 2 threads one for sligo the other for ireland
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:30 BST (UK)
Have you followed up the birthplace of 'Seaforth' on the 1911 census?
As pointed out on the other thread I mentioned, there was a 'Seaforth House' in Sligo  :-\
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:32 BST (UK)
It couldnt have been 2hr between unles the moderator didnt move the original straight away i realy dont want to upset any one as it sounds like iv upset you so i will ask moderator to remove both posts and i wont bother placing another and will give up looking but thanks to all who helped
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:34 BST (UK)
There's no point giving up looking.

There was just confusion about the two threads, which you have explained.

Going back to birthplaces, have you followed up 'Seaforth' ?
 
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:35 BST (UK)
But you started both of them a few hours apart (and posted on both of them afterwards) so you should have known there were 2 threads somewhere  ::) Would be a good idea if you read through the replies on BOTH before checking the Sligo church records in case there is something useful to make you search a bit easier.

You can use 'report to moderator' and ask for the 2 threads to be merged and kept on SLIGO board if you wish but removing both threads (which usually isn't done) means that any replies that people posted will also be removed.
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:44 BST (UK)
I have just asked moderator to merge my other thread on matthew to this one
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:46 BST (UK)
No iv not followed seaford because on the census it says seaford durham but its worth a try thanks
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 17:50 BST (UK)
No iv not followed seaford because on the census it says seaford durham but its worth a try thanks

Have you looked at the original? it seems to me that the word Durham has been added in a different handwriting. All that was originally written was 'Seaforth' (NOT Seaford).

At least try to follow it up. It might lead nowhere but it's worth trying. We need to know which R.C. Parish Seaforth House was in?
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:00 BST (UK)
I will give it a go how can i find out which parish seaforth house  was in im willing to try anything to find him iv to many brick walls in my tree
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:02 BST (UK)
You never replied to this....

1921 death notice for matthew greene in local paper available to send.
reply to


http://boards.ancestry.ie/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=8626&p=localities.britisles.ireland.sli.general


Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:06 BST (UK)
Just about to post the same thing, hallmark  ;)

Ballysodare & Kilvarnet Parish records probably best place to start-
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0120
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:08 BST (UK)
It wont let me reply through the thread but i clicked on the link on the thread and sent him a message
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:11 BST (UK)
Iv just got a message from postmaster saying they couldnt deliver my mail
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:14 BST (UK)
It won't at present because they are changing hardware... It should have during almost 3 years
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:35 BST (UK)
I will give it another go tomorrow and will also look in the hartlepool newspaper
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:46 BST (UK)
Iv just got a message from postmaster saying they couldnt deliver my mail
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The person who replied nearly 3 years ago might not be using that email address now so mailbox might be full, no more mail can be delivered!
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:47 BST (UK)
I have just clicked on the link for parish records for ireland some one placed on this thread and its expencive to view but thanks anyway
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:52 BST (UK)
I have just clicked on the link for parish records for ireland some one placed on this thread and its expencive to view but thanks anyway
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Why are FREE records too expensive?
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:56 BST (UK)
The birth 2 in the name of matthew green for sligo werent free but the 7 records for griffiths valuation were free but when i clicked on that it just kept going back to the form to place the name green i placed it a few times and just kept going back to the search page
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 18:59 BST (UK)
The birth 2 in the name of matthew green for sligo werent free but the 7 records for griffiths valuation were free but when i clicked on that it just kept going back to the form to place the name green i placed it a few times and just kept going back to the search page
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They aren't Parish records...the Parish Church records are FREE
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:01 BST (UK)
The birth 2 in the name of matthew green for sligo werent free but the 7 records for griffiths valuation were free but when i clicked on that it just kept going back to the form to place the name green i placed it a few times and just kept going back to the search page
Not sure what link you are talking about but Griffith's Valuation is available FREE on a number of sites. Try this one-
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:05 BST (UK)
The birth 2 in the name of matthew green for sligo werent free but the 7 records for griffiths valuation were free but when i clicked on that it just kept going back to the form to place the name green i placed it a few times and just kept going back to the search page
Not sure what link you are talking about but Griffith's Valuation is available FREE on a number of sites. Try this one-
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
They are FREE too... one just right Clicks on stuff and Open in New Tab in case one can't return to results.
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:14 BST (UK)
I clicked on the link some one gave on hear i filled in the form to register and then did a search for matthew green and all that came up were whst iv put on hear and the births i had to pay to see unless im doing somethin wrong
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:17 BST (UK)
I clicked on the link some one gave on hear i filled in the form to register and then did a search for matthew green and all that came up were whst iv put on hear and the births i had to pay to see unless im doing somethin wrong

I think it was Aghadowey that posted a direct link to the church on either this or the other thread, that link gets you the church records which are FREE and no need to register or anything!
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:18 BST (UK)
Could you please tell us what link you are talking about- I can't see any here that require you to register and pay for information  ???
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:20 BST (UK)
Could you please tell us what link you are talking about- I can't see any here that require you to register and pay for information  ???
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Me neither...
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:22 BST (UK)
The link aghadowey gave
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:24 BST (UK)
The link aghadowey gave

?

To Ballysodare and Kilvarnet?  They are FREE and no need to register or anything!
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:25 BST (UK)
Yes thats the link but i had to register to see results then it asked me to pay
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:26 BST (UK)
Just looking at them now! Wow you are lucky they are so easy to read compared to many.
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:27 BST (UK)
The link I posted for the Catholic parish registers is FREE and you DO NOT need to register- please tell us exact what website this is supposed to be!
http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
The NLI microfilmed registers from the majority of Catholic parishes in Ireland and Northern Ireland during the 1950s and 1960s. Digital images from these microfilms are now freely available on the website: Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI.

The 2nd link for that site I posted was for Ballysodare & Kilvarnet registers also FREE-
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0120
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:28 BST (UK)
The link aghadowey gave

 It takes you straight to the parish records - I've been looking at them. No registration needed.
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:30 BST (UK)
The link aghadowey gave

 It takes you straight to the parish records - I've been looking at them. No registration needed.

Me too!
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:30 BST (UK)
Or did you look at the Ballysodare page and click on other links below to Irish Times or Irish Ancestors?

Was this the site where you registered?
http://www.rootsireland.ie/
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:34 BST (UK)
Or did you look at the Ballysodare page and click on other links below to Irish Times or Irish Ancestors?

Was this the site where you registered?
http://www.rootsireland.ie/

That's the bit most people miss!! All most people see are the Registers themselves
Title: Re: matthew green help find his birth
Post by: oldhippyone on Wednesday 20 July 16 19:35 BST (UK)
Iv got it now i clicked on roots ireland , iv clicked again on the link and got it i obviously did something wrong the first time sorry