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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: isk on Wednesday 27 July 16 16:06 BST (UK)
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I am looking for confirmation of my thoughts and fears about information I have uncovered on the IGI, about George Taylor Walker born in Paisley, on 3 March, 1827 (parents Matthew Walker and Elisabeth Bertram) I can already hear the groans, never accept anything on the IGI unless you can prove it some other way!!!!! I know, but this one is quite interesting. George Taylor Walker was a brother of my husband's great grandmother and I have not found any further information after his Birth Entry in the Old Parish Register, other than a photograph with his sister and her family, which states on the back that he is Captain George Taylor Walker. On the Ellis Island Records in 1907 a Captain George Taylor Walker, aged 80 years and 3 months sailed from Liverpool for New York, final destination, Mexico!!!! Which brings me to the IGI entry which shows a marriage of George Taylor Walker, parents as above to Gila Apodaca Ibarra in Aguajito Choix, Mexico on 24 July 1869. Please, what are others thoughts - have I found the correct man or do I just add it to the 'Maybe Folder'.
I would really appreciate any feedback. Thank you in advance for reading this very long post. isk
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Your info looks pretty good for him, isk!
That marriage in Mexico, with parents matching what you have looks pretty conclusive you are on the right track for him.
Monica :)
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There is a tree on Ancestry showing he had a family in Mexico and that he died there. Same parents shown
Norma
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Very many thanks Monica and Norma. I did see the death and the birth of the 4 children but it was such a huge leap from Paisley to Mexico that I just wanted other folks opinion. What an amazing life he must have had. Again many thanks, I do appreciate your interest. isk.
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It sounds as though searching for his maritime records would be the next step :)
flst
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I agree with you and I will take on that challenge once my wee sister goes home to Oz at the beginning of September . isk
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Hello isk-
Thank you for your posting. My Great- Great- Grandfather was George Walker who married Gila Apodaca. They had a son , Jorge Walker who Married Mariana Borboa, My Great- Grandmother. They lived in Choix, Sinaloa, Mexico. My Grandfather's name was Efren Walker Borboa- who married my Grandmother Elisa Gastelum Soto.
If you do not mind me asking
What made you want to search for our family tree? My brother and I have been researching our ancestry and came accross your post. Thank you soo much for sharing the information, it is a great feeling to know where we come from and we would love to learn more about our family. Kind Regards
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Hello AFW
How exciting to hear from you. Your great great grandfather's sister, Isabella was married to my husband's great grandfather Duncan Walker. Their surnames are the same but they were not connected except by marriage. Duncan, who was a Wine & Spirit merchant in Glasgow married Isabella in Glasgow, on 24 January 1862. They had 4 sons, George Taylor Walker, born 25 December 1864, Archibald Walker, born 30 September 1866, Alexander Walker,( my husband's grandfather) born 23 August 1868 and John Cameron Walker born 5 August 1870. Isabella died in Glasgow 26 January 1885. George Taylor Walker was a name carried on down through the family for a couple of generations. My husband's uncle being the last on our side.
Hope to hear from you again. Best wishes from Scotland.
isk
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Wow! Thank you for all the great information. I will share with my brother and ask my mom for more pictures from one of her albums. I am trying to upload two pictures I have of my grandfather, Efren Walker and of my mom when she ,my Aunt and Uncle were little to see if there was any resemblance.
A little bit about me, I am married and have 3 children. Ironically my husband's grandma was from Scotland and his grandfather from Ireland. They met in New Jersey.
This might be a silly question...do you happen to know how tall was he? My kids are tall, especially my youngest. My mom has a picture of him and my Great Great Grand mother and he looked a lot taller than her. Just curious and trying to guess his height.
I also, understand he was a Captain of a ship.Was he in the Military? Do you know What took my Great- Great Grandfather to Mexico? I Would love to know more and if you have any pictures you could share it would be wonderful! Thank you very much! Happy we crossed paths!!:)
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This is a picture of George's Great Grand kids- my mom, Aunt and Uncle when they were little.
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Hello AFW
What a lovely photograph. I will look out the one I have of George Taylor Walker with his sister and her family. isk
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Hello Isk-
Thank you!:) Yes, that would be wonderful. I, too will share as I get more pictures and/or information.
May you have a lovely day!
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Not sure if this will help?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13434000
Annie
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Hi Annie
Thanks for this. It would be interesting to know what it is about, I will certainly look into it. Thanks for your interest. isk
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Hi Annie-
Wow, very intetesting! Thank you.
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Hi Annie-
Wow, very intetesting! Thank you.
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Hello my name is Guadalupe Rojas I wonder if by chance you know the names of the children of George, since according to my grandmother, that's what my great-great-grandfather was called. And according to my grandmother's stories, of a Scotch man who came to Mexican lands. She was born in Choix, Sinaloa, her name was Dora Adelina Walker Retes, she was born in 1928, she married Rufino Solis, her parents were called Gerge Walker and Blanca Irene Gastelum. But I do not have any information, maybe and even relatives. regards. Sorry I tried yo write in english, but my english is hot very well
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Cuáles eran los nombres de los hijos de George y Gila?
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Guadalupe's latest post is asking how many children George and Gila had. Her previous one asked for their names.
The 'community contributed' IGI lists four children of George J Walker and Gila Apodaca Ibarra
Isabel, born 1859
Alejandro, born 1870
Teodosa, born 1872
Jorge, born 1875
all in Aquajito Del Bajahui, Choix, Sinaloa, Mexico
Maybe someone who has access to the A*****y tree mentioned upthread could take a look and see if the information there matches the information submitted to the IGI? There seems to be quite a gap between Isabel and Alejandro.
The two younger children, Teodosa and Jorge, are in the 1930 census of Mexico, according to www.familysearch.org.
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Guadalupe's latest post is asking how many children George and Gila had. Her previous one asked for their names.]
The 'community contributed' IGI lists four children of George J Walker and Gila Apodaca Ibarra
Isabel, born 1859
Alejandro, born 1870
Teodosa, born 1872
Jorge, born 1875
all in Aquajito Del Bajahui, Choix, Sinaloa, Mexico
Maybe someone who has access to the A*****y tree mentioned upthread could take a look and see if the information there matches the information submitted to the IGI? There seems to be quite a gap between Isabel and Alejandro.
The two younger children, Teodosa and Jorge, are in the 1930 census of Mexico, according to www.familysearch.org.
The names and births match, however, there are no sources attached.
There is a lengthy death certificate for George on Family Search and another that might be a confirmation of death of Jorge by Alejandro - all written in Spanish. (Not sure if this info has already been mentioned as I didn't fully read all previous posts).
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I just looked for both of those on Family Search but neither came up. Which collection did you find them in?
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Not sure which collection they would be in. Family Search images are also on Ancestry.
I just sent you an email.
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E-mail received. If I could read the handwriting I might be able to translate them! However maybe Guadalupe could read them more easily?
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Hello my husband is also related to George Walker and Gila Apodaca. They had 5 children and one of the children had my husband's grandmother (Gila Beltran Walker). Would definitely love to give him more info on his Scottish family.
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Hello KMG1124. I began this thread. George Walker's sister, Isabella was married to my husband's great grandfather Duncan Walker (unrelated families). Isabella and Duncan Walker had 4 sons, John , Archibald, George, and Alexander. Alexander was my husband's grandfather. He married Agnes Jardine and they had 5 sons, Duncan, James, Alexander, George and Robert. I am happy to let you have more information but it should be by personal message and in order to do that you must write two more posts. Hope to hear from you. isk.
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Hello isk
I've tried to find out more about George Walker and his side of the family. Reading ur previous post I understand he was a captain? Do u know anything about what he did before going to Mexico? Is there any pictures of him?
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Also I do have a picture of Isabel Apodaca Walker (one of George Walkers daughters)
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Hi ISK,
My grandmother was Gila Beltran Walker, her mother was Isabel Walker Apodaca, and the parents of Isabel were George Taylor Walker (from Paisley, Scotland) and Gila Apodaca Ibarra (from Aguajito, Choix, Sinaloa, Mexico).
I would like to know if you have a birth certificate of George Taylor Apodaca, or if should could please instruct me how to get one. I am living in London and I would like to take the opportunity to visit Paisley, Scotland.
Thank you.
DGEO
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HI ISK,
Any information will be really appreciate it.
Thank you.
DGEO
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I would like to know if you have a birth certificate of George Taylor Apodaca, or if should could please instruct me how to get one.
If you mean the birth certificate of George Taylor Walker, rather than George Taylor Apodaca, there is no birth certificate, because George Taylor Walker was born before the start of civil registration in Scotland.
(If I understand the Spanish/Mexican system of names correctly, someone named George Taylor Apodaca would be George, son of a Mr Taylor whose father-in-law's surname was Apodaca?)
You can view an image of the baptism record of George Taylor Walker at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost, or perhaps one of the other descendants who have contributed to this thread may already have a copy and be willing to share it with you.
Do not expect to see the original record. Members of the public are not allowed to look at the original book, which is kept in Edinburgh, not in Paisley.
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Best regards, my name is Heiner Beltran, I am a descendant of George T Walker, my great grandmother was Isabela Walker Beltran, daughter of George Walker, jesus beltran's wife, sister of Jorge W, Tia de Efren W, son of Jorge W, Mother of Alegrandro Beltran Walker, George's first grandson, and Gila beltran Walker, I'm grandson of Alejandro Beltran Walker, My father is Guillermo Beltran son of Alejandro, It's nice to hear about the offspring of our roots, through history, Thank you. :D
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Hello AFW, (and others)
I found this forum via google after searching for George Taylor Walker, born 1827. I am hoping that we could exchange pictures. :)
Like you, George Taylor Walker was my 3x great grandfather. My grandmother Bertha’s mother was Enriqueta Echavarria, whose mother was Teodosa. Teodosa was a sister of Jorge Apodaca.
I do have one picture of Teodosa, taken with her daughters and granddaughter.
Sincerely,
Karina (in California)
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Hey all, I’ve been trying to find more about where my family comes from and so I found this thread doing google searches, so I figured I share this, my name is Pedro Navarro Miranda, my grandfather was Jesus Miranda Walker, his mother was Luz Walker, her father was Jorge Walker and his father was George T. Walker.
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Hello,
Gila Apodaca and George Taylor Walker had a daughter named Isabel Apodaca Walker (1868-1962), who married Jesus Beltran Beltran Serrano (1870-1937). Jesus and Isabel are my great-great-grandparents.