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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: element4 on Friday 29 July 16 11:46 BST (UK)
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Adam Walker was born in 1828 in Derbyshire, his father was John Walker, and his mother was called Ruth. He married Ellen Saunders, daughter of Samuel Saunders, on July 3rd 1848 in Belper, Derbyshire.
The 1841 census shows John and Ruth age 45, with Adam 12, William 15 and Mary 15, in Duffield, Belper.
The 1851 census shows Adam Walker age 22 as a coal miner with wife Ellen 23 and daughter Sarah age 1, living in Belper, Derbyshire.
My question is, what is the maiden name of Adam Walker's mother Ruth? I made a guess, which would take my ancestry into Derbyshire heartland going back to the early 1600's and back to the 1300's, but Ruth is the link which I need to be sure of.
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Hi
There is a marriage in Duffield in 1817
John Walker married Ruth Waterfall 6 July 1817
He a bachelor she a spinster.
Claire
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I am going to include this one from 1815 Glossop
John Walker married Ruth Eyre 22 November 1815.
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I am going to include this one from 1815 Glossop
John Walker married Ruth Eyre 22 November 1815.
That is the one I found, and I ran with it, taking me back many generations of the Eyres in Derbyshire. I think I am probably wrong.
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Hi
There is a marriage in Duffield in 1817
John Walker married Ruth Waterfall 6 July 1817
He a bachelor she a spinster.
Claire
Thanks, I didn't find that one. I need to find out more about it.
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I think the marriage in Duffield in 1817 to Ruth Waterfall is more likely, as looking at the map, the family always lived near Belper, Heage and Duffield, whereas Glossop is on the other side of the Peak District and almost in Manchester, which in the early 1800's would have been a very long way away.
Also the name Waterfall rings bells, as though I have come across it before without realising or remembering.
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It was only a transcription not the actual register.
There are numerous baptisms in Belper for John and Ruth Walker from c1819 including Adams - have you got those ?
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There are numerous baptisms in Belper for John and Ruth Walker from c1819 including Adams - have you got those ?
No, I haven't got any information except the 1841 census, where Adam is 12 and he has two siblings age 15, William and Mary. The parents are both 45. Presumably the older children have left home by then.
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Martha bp 25 Nov 1821
Sarah bp 7 Nov 1819
William bp 14 Sept. 1823
Adam 28 Dec 1828
Mary Ann bp 12 Mar 1826
Joseph bp 22 Mar 1818
Claire
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Remember in the 1841 census ages of people over 15 were supposedly rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5.
Claire
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Martha bp 25 Nov 1821
Sarah bp 7 Nov 1819
William bp 14 Sept. 1823
Adam 28 Dec 1828
Mary Ann bp 12 Mar 1826
Joseph bp 22 Mar 1818
Claire
Thanks. Does it give the name of the church where they were baptised? Especially the 1819 baptism would likely be in the same church where the parents were married in 1817, and be a strong indicator that I have the right Ruth.
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The transcript doesn't say, but I am trying to find it. I did come across this site that you may find useful
www.belper-research.com
Claire
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Hi
There is a marriage in Duffield in 1817
John Walker married Ruth Waterfall 6 July 1817
He a bachelor she a spinster.
Claire
On familysearch ( Derbyshire Parish registers - you need to register (free) to see the actual PRs ) the marriage ( by banns) entry shows 2 witnesses, Sarah Waterfall and James Lowther ? ( his name appears on quite a lot of the records so maybe a church clerk etc). John and Ruth are shown of this parish (Duffield) and John, Ruth and Sarah all made a mark.
The entries on familysearch for the childrens baptisms come from Bishops Transcripts and they are shown as Church of England, Belper Chapelry in the parish of Duffield
Shirl
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JOHN WALKER Waterfall Christened 14 January 1816, Belper, Derbyshire
Mother RUTH Waterfall
(Source Familysearch.Org)
So an Child born before this Marriage as found earlier by Claire.
Looks like it confirms Ruth was nee Waterfall :)
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Both good finds :)
The church could possibly be St Alkmunds
Claire