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Title: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: sekelund on Sunday 31 July 16 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi all, I have hit a brick wall in trying to find some info about my grandfather John Patrick Ford of Tawnyhoosy, Dromohair, Leitrim. I believe he was born circa 1873
I know he emigrated to Middlesbrough, Yorkshire and worked as a blast furnace man, his wife was Anne Scott. He died in Middlesbrough in 1927.
I am not sure but I think his mother was Bridget born circa 1838, brother Michael (1864).
Hoping someone could point me in the right direction, many thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 31 July 16 19:00 BST (UK)
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0829
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 31 July 16 19:56 BST (UK)
Michael Ford, wife Mary and mother Bridget in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Cloonlougher/Tawnyhoosy/654261

Is this Bridget in 1901 with son Bernard?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Cloonlogher/Tawnyhoosy/1486271

There are a few John Fords with mother Bridget born Leitrim around 1873. Do you have his father's name and occupation (should be on marriage certificate)?
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: heywood on Sunday 31 July 16 20:10 BST (UK)
Hello and welcome  ;)

You might try this parish - Killargue - http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0836 if the family found by Aghadowey is right.

Regards
Heywood
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: sekelund on Monday 01 August 16 10:00 BST (UK)
Thanks all for your help Aghadowy and Heywood, I am almost sure that the entry for Bridget and Bernard is the right one too, I will have to get some better glasses to try and read the parish registers though! I dont have the marriage certificate but have discovered that the father was James Ford who married Bridget Carney on 10.12.1860, this information has just come to me, they were farmers. They had quite a large section of land in the area which was later sold off in parcels until only a small piece remained.
There were several sons-this also has just been sent to me on another site:
John - 5.11.1861
Peter - 21.8.1863
Michael - 14.6.1865
James - 14.6.1867
Patrick - 5.3.1869
Bernard - 18.8.1872
Hugh - 11.9.1878
From this information above I still can't see John Patrick anywhere here, the date for this John is too early and the date for Patrick is also too early, so I am not sure now if this is the right family at all! It's all so confusing, so many families all give their children the same names!
Of course I know that some babies births were not registered, but seeing as most of this family were I would have thought John Patrick would have been too.
I have information that one of the descendants married a McMorrow.
I have learnt that James was into bare knuckle fighting and went by the name 'Kid Forde'
Best wishes


 
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: heywood on Monday 01 August 16 10:33 BST (UK)
Where did John and Ann marry? If I have the right family, they are in Paisley, Scotland in 1901 and he is Patrick in that census.
As you are having doubts re the family, it would be good to get the marriage details which would confirm his father's name.
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: sekelund on Monday 01 August 16 13:41 BST (UK)
Heywood, I have John and Annie Scott (my grandfather and grandmother) Living in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire. Not sure when/where they got married, I do know that he married a second time after Annie passed away to an Elizabeth Murray  I'm not sure about Paisley though, was it a Scotland Census you were looking at?
Still trying to trace his marriage records.
TY
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: heywood on Monday 01 August 16 14:17 BST (UK)
Which censuses do you have them in?
Do you have their children's names?
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 04 August 16 12:48 BST (UK)
found a John Ford lived at 73 Hutchinson street, Middlesbrough blast furnace

in the army service no. 700096, joined 1919 date of discharge 28.4.20, Pulu Tuberculisia got pension he was in the Labour Corps. ref: LAB/DOC8/238 Pension class 5

find my past
http://www.findmypast.co.uk
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: sekelund on Thursday 04 August 16 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi Rathmore, that's him-it's an address I have from his second marriage certificate, many thanks. Does it say anything about where he was born??
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 06 August 16 12:09 BST (UK)
It just says he was born in Leitrim, you could write of get in touch with The National Archieves, Kew, Surrey. Ref: W0363 records come under burnt documents, they should be able to help you.
When he died did it not say in his funeral write up were he was born, you could also tried the pensions they might tell you on that.  You are lucky because you have his regiment no. 700096.

Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 06 August 16 12:37 BST (UK)
Hi all, I have hit a brick wall in trying to find some info about my grandfather John Patrick Ford of Tawnyhoosy, Dromohair, Leitrim. I believe he was born circa 1873
 

Is there something you have that says "Tawnyhoosy, Dromohair, Leitrim." on it?

As you can see Tawnyhoosy, is in Killargue, Leitrim.
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 06 August 16 13:16 BST (UK)
"...information that one of the descendants married a McMorrow....."

Buried Here:

James Forde

Michael Forde

Mary P. McMorrow

Elizabeth Forde

Hugh J. Forde

http://irishgraveyards.ie/plot.php?plotno=65&yardid=157&section=Old%20A
Title: Re: Looking for John Patrick Ford
Post by: sekelund on Saturday 06 August 16 15:49 BST (UK)
Thank you Hallmark.That's another branch then perhaps I would have to look along the McMorrow line as well.