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Title: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Flickgirl on Tuesday 09 August 16 23:15 BST (UK)
This is another photo form my great grandmother's set; it's a complete mystery and I would really appreciate thoughts on dating it and on where it may have been taken.  Perhaps someone will recognise the type of architecture.  It certainly doesn't look like Glasgow where many of the photos in the set were taken!  Some of the photographs are from Australia so I wonder if this one could be too.  Sadly the back is blank and there is no sign of a photographer's name.  I can see something is written on the house at the top; I think it perhaps says "Clifton/Clinton Cottage" but it's very hard to read. 

Any thoughts greatly appreciated and if anyone wants to clean it up or colourise it that would be great.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo
Post by: diesse on Wednesday 10 August 16 07:21 BST (UK)
Hi,
These houses look very similar to one that my great grandparents lived in in Richmond, Vic. in the late 1860/70s.
Sorry cant be more help.
Cheers,
Di
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: ymfoster on Wednesday 10 August 16 10:24 BST (UK)
My effort,  :)

Yvonne
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: sugarbakers on Wednesday 10 August 16 10:57 BST (UK)
Agree with diesse ...

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Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 10 August 16 11:13 BST (UK)
The women's dress styles suggest an 1870's date & probably mid -late decade.
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: sugarbakers on Wednesday 10 August 16 11:18 BST (UK)
Looks like it is or was in the Clifton Hill area of Victoria

for example ... 112 Spensley St, Clifton Hill VIC 3068

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-37.7873554,145.0014823,3a,75y,354.95h,83.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1pd6bN4B2_JL2XTev-ontg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Handypandy on Wednesday 10 August 16 11:26 BST (UK)
Definitely Clifton Hill...some more here:

 Link (http://static.domain.com.au/domainblog/uploads/2016/04/18141500/2_go8mij.jpg)


 Clifton Cottage (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-37.7932154,144.9891622,3a,32.6y,182.18h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-eaY97RTq2eWOY9nQ0xuag!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)


And some interesting history here:   Clicky linky (http://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/93617/download-report)
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Flickgirl on Wednesday 10 August 16 13:53 BST (UK)
Thanks so much everyone for solving this mystery - I always thought it would be Australia but to narrow it right down a a particular place in the late 1870s is fantastic  :)

This photograph belonged to my great grandmother; she had a brother who emigrated to Australia but I've always thought this would be too early to pertain to him and his family as he didn't go out until the early 1880s and that seems to have been borne out.  She had an aunt, her father's sister, who emigrated in 1852 though and who ended up in Melbourne specifically North Melbourne (Hotham).  I think it must be descendants of hers in the photo; she had a number of children and by the late 1870s several of them had children of their own so I suspect the women are either my great great grand aunt's daughters or daughters-in-law and three of her grandchildren.  I'll probably never know for sure but it seems the best explanation.

Thanks also for the restore Yvonne  :)
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Trishanne on Wednesday 10 August 16 16:50 BST (UK)
Here is a restore from me and also an attempt at colouring it
Pat
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Flickgirl on Thursday 11 August 16 13:00 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Pat - those are both lovely  :)
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: matthewj64 on Thursday 11 August 16 15:22 BST (UK)
A search on Trove shows that there were many dwellings  around Melbourne named Clifton Cottage, so unfortunately having that name doesn't necessarily link it to Clifton Hill. One shows up on Trove in Arden St, Hotham, but I can't see it in Street View.

M :)
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Handypandy on Thursday 11 August 16 15:31 BST (UK)
When I was trawling Streetview for the above links, I saw around four properties that I suspect had the name Clifton Cottage. I came to the conclusion that it was most likely the generic name that the builder had used to identify the style of the property (much as builders do today when selling 'off plan').

Wiki informs that the area Clifton Hill was named by the developer after one of the first properties in the area, Clifton Farm. I think that its a fair assumption that the Clifton Cottages name was  initially based on this.
Title: Re: Help to Date and Clean Up Mystery Photo of "Clifton/Clinton Cottage"
Post by: Flickgirl on Friday 12 August 16 12:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for the extra information matthewj64 - very interesting that there was one in Hotham too. My grt grt grand aunt died in her house on High Street, Hotham in 1903.  Her husband William Johnston ran a foundry in North Melbourne that he set up in 1856. His foundry cast the hands on the North Melbourne Town Hall clock.  The Foundry did not succeed and shut down in 1859; there was a fire on 25 Feburary 1859 and 50 houses and the foundry were destroyed.

It makes sense for the name to have come from Clifton Farm handypandy.  It would be amazing if this particular "Clifton Cottage" survives somewhere to this day as some of the others seem to.  Thanks again.