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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: rmuser77 on Friday 12 August 16 06:56 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Looking for birth records (Baptism/Census etc) for John Hagan born around 1811 probably in Fermoy, Cork.
He later married Mary Adams in Fermoy, (Armagh) in 1829.
Joined up and ended up in Australia.
Thanks,
Rob.
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Registration of births began in 1864 and first complete census for Ireland is 1901 so you'll need to search for surviving church records.
If he was Catholic- unfortunately the online baptismal register for Fermoy doesn't start until 1828-
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0051
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Hi,
Came across a baptism record - 30 Jan 1812 - St Finbarr's - Cork
Parents - Patrick Hagan and Anastatia Ahern.
I wonder if this could be his?
Thanks,
Rob.
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Hi,
Looking for birth records (Baptism/Census etc) for John Hagan born around 1811 probably in Fermoy, Cork.
He later married Mary Adams in Fermoy, (Armagh) in 1829.
Joined up and ended up in Australia.
Thanks,
Rob.
Long shot, but I have a John Hagan from Fermoy as a distant relative. My records suggest he married an Ann Miller from Greenwich in London. The notes are sparse but there is mention of one son Jack who married a Mary Goodwin, and of all children living in NSW Australia (not clear whether Jack or John's children).
Samuel Hagan, my great grandfather, I understand from family notes is a descendant of John Hagan.
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Hi,
John had a son William who married Sarah Ann Miller born in Greenwich, England. From the original records I have John Hagan married Mary Adams in Armagh, Northern Ireland in 1829. Jack did marry Mary in 29 Dec 1894 in NSW.
Were are you based? Since I will be in Ireland in a couple of weeks trying to verify John's family history. If I have made any errors now is the time to pick them up.
Thanks,
Rob.
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John had a son William who married Sarah Ann Miller born in Greenwich, England. From the original records I have John Hagan married Mary Adams in Armagh, Northern Ireland in 1829. Jack did marry Mary in 29 Dec 1894 in NSW.
OK you lost me somewhat:
John Hagan married Mary Adams in Armagh, Northern Ireland in 1829.
Their son William Hagan married Sarah Ann Miller.
Jack married Mary in 29 Dec 1894 in NSW. Is Jack William and Sarah's son, and is Mary - Mary Goodwin?
Samuel Hagan may be the son of Jack Hagan and Mary Goodwin.
I am in London. This is from my mother's side who are all in Australia.
regards
David
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If the 1829 marriage took place in Armagh R.C. Parish (and it was Ireland NOT Northern Ireland at the time) you can check the registers online-
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0184 (use the map to see surrounding parishes and others in County Armagh). There is a gap in the marriages but perhaps you might find earlier baptisms there. What's listed under the registers differs a bit from this listing-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0184&parish=Armagh
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Hi,
>> "Jack married Mary in 29 Dec 1894 in NSW. Is Jack, William and Sarah's son, and is Mary - Mary Goodwin?" - correct
>> "Samuel Hagan may be the son of Jack Hagan and Mary Goodwin." - if he is I don't have a record of it. Their daughter Ruth Evelyn Hagan was my grandmother.
Cheers,
Rob.
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William and Sarah Ann had a son Samuel born in 1875
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William and Sarah Ann had a son Samuel born in 1875
Thanks!
OK so William and Jack were brothers.
As I am missing the William and Sarah in the notes I was given, it is unclear who the rest of the family referred to in a relevant passage. However it suggests the following are either the children of Jack and Mary, or failing that siblings of Jack and William:
Mary - married Ned Curry from Tenterfield
Len - was a teacher
Jack - a High School Principal, who's son was a surgeon in Sydney [Jack is twice referred to so not clear if Jack had a son also named Jack]
Grace -
Ruth - who married a Mr Wood (Banker from Toowoomba) [Not clear if your grandmother or aunt of same name]
Jean -
Further goes on about Hagan sisters marrying a Mr Parr and a Mr Pomroy. Not clear who are the sisters.
There are also some further notes about the children of these people.
Cheers
David
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>> "OK so William and Jack were brothers." => as below Jack is William and Sarah's son
>> "As I am missing the William and Sarah in the notes I was given, it is unclear who the rest of the family referred to in a relevant passage. However it suggests the following are either the children of Jack and Mary, or failing that siblings of Jack and William:
Mary - married Ned Curry from Tenterfield => Yep
Len - was a teacher => Yep and a High School Principal
Jack - a High School Principal, who's son was a surgeon in Sydney [Jack is twice referred to so not clear if Jack had a son also named Jack] => Jack had a few jobs but was not a High School Principal as far as I know, but was a farmer, miner and even the Chairman of the Glen Innes Branch of the ALP. But yes he had a son called "Jack" (John) who was a High School Principal. Not sure about the surgeon bit.
Grace - yep
Ruth - who married a Mr Wood (Banker from Toowoomba) [Not clear if your grandmother or aunt of same name]. Ruth is my grandmother.
Jean - yep
and Lindsey Gordon
Further goes on about Hagan sisters marrying a Mr Parr and a Mr Pomroy. Not clear who are the sisters.=> Sarah J daughter of Will and Sarah married Thomas Parr. Another daughter of there's Caroline Adelaide married Henry Pomroy.
Cheers,
Rob
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interestingly I found this:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/william-hagan_203899356