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Title: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 13:49 BST (UK)
Hi
I'm trying to find the parents of Emily Beaumont Booker born in Eynsford, she is on the 81,91,01,11 living with her grandparents William and Mary, but can't find baptism, and wondered if anyone has access to parish records for Eynsford.
I have a feeling she is the daughter of George Booker whose wife Emily Gibbard died in 1876, could have been in childbirth.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 13:51 BST (UK)
I have found her marriage on Freereg it says "Brides father deceased (unnamed)" humph no help there then
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 14 August 16 14:31 BST (UK)
I wonder if this is her (late) baptism on FreeREG  ???

Emily Beaomont? BOPTZER?  3 June 1888  mother Martha Matilda single woman, St Martin of Tours, Eynsford.

Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 14:46 BST (UK)
Hi
Thanks
That could be her with a few spelling errors :)
William and Mary had a daughter Martha Mahala who never married, in 71 she was a servant in London, by 81 she was back in Eynsford as a servnat (not with parents) and by 91 she was back in London, died in 1908.
So this could be it
Thanks again
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 14 August 16 14:54 BST (UK)
It would be good to see the original entry.

You could always buy the birth certificate.
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 15:05 BST (UK)
Certificates are a bit expensive but I may just wander to the local archives they have them there on film.
She's not really one of mine, her mother would be my 2nd cousin 4xremoved (according to ancestry) so not my direct line, it's just that a while ago I bought a postcard on Ebay addressed to her, at the time hoping it might belong to someone a bit closer to me as my Bookers are from Eynsford, so I'm just trying to attach it to the right owner, which is Emily Beaumont, the address matches with the census.
I'm going to put her with Martha for time being who seems the most likely parent as I've pretty much eliminated all other possibilities.
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 August 16 15:20 BST (UK)
Already typed up;

George/Emilys Marriage was Reg Sept 1875 West Ham

Emily Beaumont Booker's Birth Reg March 1875, Dartford, 2a 402

Dates just dont add up to me.

Just editing as so many replies.

I agree Martha is likely her Mother.

William/Mary Ann Baptise a Son Bostinan Syi*? Booker 1856 (FreeREG)

There is a Boethius Booker Baptised 1792 Eynsford, so maybe a Family name passed down.



Trish :)
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 16:12 BST (UK)
William and Mary had:
Melicent Mary (1842-) mar Hugh William Jones
George (1843-) mar Emily Gibbard
William Frederick (1845-1929) mar Ellen Ann Watkinson
Elizabeth (1847-)
Peter (1848-1941) mar Mary Eliza Curtis
Martha Mahala (1850-1908)
Elizabeth Gibson (1852-) mar John Frederick Long
David (1854-)
Boethius Symmachus (1856-) mar Emily Gosling
Thomas (1858-) mar Emily Devine
Mary Ann Blackbourn (1859-)
Edith Emma (1862-1949) mar Alfred Baldcock
Richard Francis (1866-1951) mar Leah Louisa Maddams

I have children etc for all those that are married.
No idea what happened to Elizabeth, David (maybe ended up in Hove) or Mary Ann Blackbourn.
And Martha Mahala is pretty much sorted now

Boethius is a name passed down, he proved a bit tricky, think he might have changed his name to William later on, but sort of nailed him now.

The Bookers have been a real struggle as the parish records for Eynsford are not on MedwayCityark Gggrrr but Horton-Kirby, Crockenhill and Dartford are which has helped with those that left Eynsford.
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 August 16 16:18 BST (UK)
Lots of Eynsford records on FreeREG which is where I found the Baptisms you mentioned and Williams 1841 Marriage etc.
I still use the old site at first as I find it earlier to navigate than the new version.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 14 August 16 16:31 BST (UK)
Yes FreeReg has proved to be extremely helpful with the Eynsford area.

I guess I'm going to have to pay a visit to the Archives place again, love scrolling through microfilm lol
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Rojar on Thursday 30 August 18 05:11 BST (UK)
Hi
Just picked up your message (2016) re: Emily Devine.  I have attached a couple of docs that may help.
The "beaumont" has always confused the issue sometimes spelt "Bomont" and sometime used as the Surname.   I have been working on the Bookers for years now and think I have managed to sort out some of the problems, but I and always keen to be corrected.   I have a load more Booker Documents if you are interested.

Roger Hart
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 02 September 18 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi
Got your reply :) haven't looked at my Bookers for a couple of years and have been trying to remember what I did with them, I remember they were difficult, I then went paperless, had stroke (memory problems lol) so I attach a few docs.  So 2 Thomas Bookers born 1781, I chose Thomas and Eleanor Saker as parents, think because of the carpenter link with their family, although Boethius links to parents William and Elizabeth Pryer, but not absolutley sure why I put mine around the way I did, but in either case we both end up with John and Elizabeth Durling. 

After them we part ways, I opted for the local Booker family ties and you go down the Hogsflesh root, comment I put on my tree states "these seem more likely to be the Booker family from Eynsford, local family, Not William and Ann Hogsflesh, who are from Sussex, I doubt a young man Booker would be courting/travelling with family over Sussex, Margate, Eynsford with Alice birthing/burying children on the way in the 1670s, more likely Alice Hogsflesh married a local Booker boy from the local Booker family, also not one tree I have seen provides any source/proof/guess of Booker/Hogsflesh senario?"  Probably a bit harsh, oops, I did research the Hogsflesh option but couldn't make it fit.

I am also not sure about Ann Ashdown from Sussex, it's a long way to go courting in 1600/1700s when your working in Kent 7 days a week like they did?  Also Anne Ashdown is already the wife of my 8xGreat Uncle, and becoming my 1stcousin9xr on another line would make a huge mess of my tree.  Also one is Ann and the other Anne, trust me, from someone with Ann as a middle name, the spelling is crucial, with e/without e lol.

So I attach a few doc/notes and am happy to receive any info which helps prove/disprove the above, my tree is on Ancestry, if your interested let me know.

Thanks for your help
Dee (your distant cousin, somehow)

Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Patches on Sunday 02 September 18 23:00 BST (UK)
Plus these notes  or not as it won't let me attach them, changed its name it works now
Title: Re: Emily Beaumont Booker in Eynsford
Post by: Rojar on Friday 07 September 18 04:39 BST (UK)
Hi Dee
So sorry to hear about your medical problems, hope all is now on the mend; mind you the 'Bookers' may well have given you the condition in the first place   :).

Thanks for throwing yet another spanner in the works, just when I thought I had it straight.   Regarding the Saker/Pryer conundrum I have an early Gen. report that explains why I went down that track (I will send copy but will need to do it by email) but I am still working on any evidence to the contrary.

Regarding marriages outside the Eynsford area you must remember that the two Booker Brothers, who we believe originated in Margate and came to the Darenth valley in the 1600's were Carpenter Journeymen who would have moved around a lot with their work, it was only with my GG Grandfather that they settled down as Estate Carpenters at Lullingstone .

I will check further the Ashdowne connection but if you say she married your G8 Uncle I am afraid he must be a bigamist because she married Thomas Booker at Lullingstone  (1709 July 21 Thomas Booker Anne Ashdown -- Lullingstone Parish Registers)

If you want to let me have your email address I will send a list of docs Etc, in case you have already got some.

Cheers
Roger Hart