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David Parfitt of Clutton, Somerset (1784-1833) was in the Royal Marines in Plymouth in 1819. I have a record of David's enlistment in the Royal Marines (from PRO Kew) with all his details. He married a Mary West. On the parish record of their marriage at Plymouth Charles (Dec 5 1819) she is a widow. I have spent a lot of time looking for a Mary marrying a Mr West (and a death of a Mr West) in the west country but have come up with nothing logical.
Does anyone have information on Mary West/Mary Parfet please? She was in Somerset in 1828-35 and in Llangattock, Brecknockshire, Wales in 1841.
The most likely person for Mary West is the one baptised in Plymouth Charles on 18 May 1798. Her parents were William and Elizabeth (Haynes). She seems to have gone back to her maiden name - if it changed - after the death of her first husband. I would be interested in any comments.
By the way some of David and Mary's line (via Mary Ann) and Mary's line (via Alfred) continued: Alfred Parfitt's (1835) son George (1859) married Mary-Ann Parfitt's (1828) daughter Emma (1862). They had 6 children including Reginald Horace Parfitt (1896-1967).
Roger
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The most likely person for Mary West is the one baptised in Plymouth Charles on 18 May 1798
That would make her 21yrs old when they married in 1819 so she would have to have been married, widowed and re-married by age 21
How old was she when she died?
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In 1841 she was aged 40, so was born 1797 to 1801. She died between 1841 and 1851. There is a death reported in Jan-Mar 1851 in Crickhowell Wales. This could be her. If she went back to Somerset, there are several deaths reported in Somerset between 1841 and 1851.
Thanks
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Hi
Daughter Mary Ann married 1847 Thomas Rider, is that correct ?
If so, Mary West/Parfett/ is with the couple in 1851 ~ Class: HO107; Piece: 1877; Folio: 423; Page: 9
Mary PARFEET aged 50 bn 1801 Plympton St Mary, Devon,
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Mary PARFIT death reg. 1st Qtr 1852 Plympton St Mary ~ this looks a possible
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Transcribed as PARFECT..image is Parfit
Mary PARFIT of Ridgeway buried January 11th 1852 aged 50 years. Plympton St Mary
claire
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Since 1851 census states Mary was born Plympton St Mary I personally don't think she can be the Mary West you've found.
I also don't think if Mary West was a widow that she would have reverted to using her maiden name when she remarried which you are suggesting was West in light of the baptism you found 1798 at Plymouth Charles. A highly unlikely thing to have done for the time.
I note that Alfred was actually illegitimate born some 2 years after David Parfitt died, even though he names him as his father when he married.
Annette
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Wow. How did I miss that 1851 reference over all these years. She WAS the mother in law of Thomas Ryder, and a washer woman. Now I will look for her birth. Her marriage record at Charles-Plymouth 5 Dec 1819, to David Parfitt, says she was Mary West a widow, although the writing looks like "a Hidone". She made her mark X. She would have been a very young widow.
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You don't think a minister may have had really bad handwriting and it could possibly say Mary was a MINOR. It does seem she was quite young to be getting married again at 19 :)
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Definitely a "d "in the middle of the word. David was a Bachelor of the Marine Artillery.
I wonder if Mary was the Mary West born in 1798 so she would have been 20 or 21.
Thanks
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Given the burial in 1852 and the census of 1851 is consistent with a YoB 1801 and place - Plympton St Mary there is this baptism
Mary West bpt 16 Feb. 1801 daughter of William and Johannah
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I now think her name was transcribed as Mary Wesh, a widow of this parish Charles, married David Parfitt on 5/12/1819.
I found a John Welch married a Mary Sulivan in East Stonehouse 16/11/1817.
A John Welch died age 32 buried on 10/5/1818 in East Stonehouse.
This ties in nicely with a name sounding like Wesh and Mary a young widow, but I haven't found a Mary Sulivan born abt 1800, although there are two possibilities for 1795 and 1796.
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David Parfitt was in the Royal Marines from 1804 and in the Royal Marine Artillery from at least 1819 to 1825. The 1st battalion Royal Marine Artillery formed at Plymouth on 29 November 1810 under the command of Major Richard Williams. No children were born to David and Mary 1821-1826. Was he away at sea/war? Please, how can I find out if he was aboard ship e.g. in America and Europe?
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Hi Roger
It's a bit late now here, but I will check my son's University database ( Military ) and see what I can find for you.
Unless someone beats me to it ;D ;D
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His pension says Royal Marine Artillery under the ship column in FindMyPast.
FindMyPast has helped me, and I now think you are right about Mary West being single. The writing by J Babb on the marriage record is not good, and the word after Mary Wesh/West is more likely spinster and not widow, but the writing is unusual for him. The Mary West of Plympton bapt 16 Feb 1801, with father William and mother Johanna Tall, is now the best bet. The record about James Parfitt at Greenwhich hospital seems to confirm it. I have made a new post about this. Many thanks for your help and ideas.