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Title: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 25 August 16 00:40 BST (UK)
I am trying to decipher the last word in the line of a burial entry for Robert Hannam.

I have underlined the word, it looks like it reads Robert Hannam of K-r- but not being familiar with Dorset I was looking for help please. (It is a snip from Gillingham burial reg)

Thanks
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 August 16 00:57 BST (UK)
Could it be Kent?

Annie
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 25 August 16 00:59 BST (UK)
Kington Magna is not far from Gillingham.  :-\
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 August 16 01:06 BST (UK)
nj,

Only 4 letters in the word  ???

Annie
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 25 August 16 01:09 BST (UK)
nj,

Only 4 letters in the word  ???

Annie

Vicar shortening the name to fit into the space?
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 25 August 16 01:13 BST (UK)
He is the only one listed of .... All others have no of ... Just name and burial date. Maybe he was not from Dorset.

It looks to me as Ken(?). If you check Feb the e looks very similar, also Jan, for n top line. Not sure of the end letter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Dorset

Just my thoughts.

Cas
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 25 August 16 01:29 BST (UK)
Vicar shortening the name to fit into the space?

I think for a long name it would have been spelled in full as he didn't have to "fit" it into any space as it's not on a form with a limited space to write anything but that's my own thought.

Annie
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 25 August 16 06:37 BST (UK)
Brianz, do you know where he was born?  The Hannam surname is found in Dorset.

Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: ScouseBoy on Thursday 25 August 16 07:53 BST (UK)
Could it be HURN
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 25 August 16 08:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for your thoughts everyone, I am not sure when he was born, about 1640 I think, which would make him quite an old man for those times.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 25 August 16 09:56 BST (UK)
A comparison with other lines in the extract shows that the last letter is obscured in the binding. Maybe Kenton ?

I'm not wholly convinced that the 4th letter is t, as it's rather different from other examples of t in this extract. But if it is, perhaps Kenton is a variant spelling for Kington, only about 3 miles away? Kington Magna has already been suggested above.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 25 August 16 10:19 BST (UK)
I see Kenlo?

I can't find anything other than Kington Magna which has already been mentioned as being too long...I don't think the fourth letter is  "t" either:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?DOR,ST800260,5,Gillingham

http://ukga.org/genuki/DOR/parishes.html#K

Carol
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 25 August 16 10:23 BST (UK)
nj,

Only 4 letters in the word  ???

Annie

I think there might be another letter or two disappearing into the fold of the page

I also see kenlo or maybe the "lo" is actually a b - Kenb..

Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 25 August 16 10:29 BST (UK)
It seems fairly certain that it is a town in Dorset or possibly Wiltshire, I do not think the would have moved a body too far in those times.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 25 August 16 10:39 BST (UK)
Clerks weren't always consistent, but if the place was in a different county, they usually put xxxx in the county of xxxx. Although Gillingham is close to the Somerset border and a nearby place, even if in Somerset may not have been identifird by county. Are you trying to match him with the Robert born in Evercreech?
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: ScouseBoy on Thursday 25 August 16 10:43 BST (UK)
Or in Hampshire?
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 25 August 16 10:49 BST (UK)
All I have at the moment is a Robert H B abt 1640, may have married a Mary Frost and one of their sons was called Joseph B abt 1677.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 25 August 16 10:53 BST (UK)
Are these events all in Gillingham or nearby?
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 25 August 16 14:15 BST (UK)
The large scale map of Gillingham at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101445914 shows a Kendall's House a mile or so to the north - could it be something to do with that?
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Thursday 25 August 16 14:21 BST (UK)
I have 2 trees overlapping Mere in Wiltshire and Motcombe in Dorset. The Hannam (ending um, om, ham, an and a  few others)   family seems to be related to each other, Christian name combinations being very similar, but I think I need to go back further to find the common link. that's the reason I am looking for Robert.
I didn't think there were that many of us till I started this now they're coming out of the woodwork.

Arthur Thanks but I don't know as I have very little to go on.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: despair on Thursday 25 August 16 20:54 BST (UK)
A very long shot - there is a smudged character at the start of the next line before "was",could this be part of the name?Even given this the "nearest" I could find was Kenley,Somerset.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: despair on Thursday 25 August 16 21:09 BST (UK)
There is a Robert Hannam born 1640 in Evercreech Somerset.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: despair on Thursday 25 August 16 21:58 BST (UK)
The only other Robert Hannam I can find around this time is baptised 1649 in Horsington Somerset.How does Robert H B  equate to Robert Hannam(and similar for Joseph)?

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Friday 26 August 16 00:19 BST (UK)
Thanks despair  I missed that, I don't suppose he married a Mary Frost?

Robert H b abt  is how I abbreviated  Robert Hannam Born abt,  same for Joseph sorry perhaps it was a bit too short.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: despair on Friday 26 August 16 00:33 BST (UK)
There is a Joseph Hannam,baptised 1671 to Robert and Marie at Sherborne Dorset-the nearest all round combination I can find.

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 26 August 16 07:54 BST (UK)
Joseph's parents might be Robert Hannam and Marie Forest married 6 Feb 1664,
same couple had a Robert bapt 1665. Robert senior might be the one baptised to a Katherine Hannam 6 Mar 1638. Katherine may have married a Robert Hill in 1645.

Two Robert Hannam burials: 29 Mar 1714 - record says widower and 26 Jan 1742 no further information but doesn't imply infant or child.
No afe given for either, but from timing the first must be Robert snr, but I can't find a burial of Marie pre deceasing him.
All events at Sherborne
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: despair on Friday 26 August 16 08:03 BST (UK)
Perhaps the Robert Hannam baptised 1649 in Horsington would be a reasonable geographic and age match,and a more credible survivor until 1734(?)

Regards
Roger

Added- I prepared the above before LizzieL's posting re the marriage,but I thought I would post anyway in case it is of use somehow.
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: brianz on Friday 26 August 16 09:11 BST (UK)
Thanks LizzieL and Roger I now have some Robert's to look at. Now it's a case of proving which one, if any, belong to my tree.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Name of a Dorset town?
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 27 August 16 18:42 BST (UK)
You might find the list of names in the Dorset OPC useful