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Title: Where is this? #14
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 30 August 16 20:40 BST (UK)
I am guessing that this one is going to end up filed in the 'no idea' box, but lets see what you brilliant detectives can come up with  :)  I've added some close ups of (perhaps) useful things, but can do more close ups if required.

And I warn you, there really isn't much to go on.........
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:11 BST (UK)
Spidermonkey, you wouldn't believe what garbage I am typing into my search engine in the hope that something pops up   ::) ;D

Is that a poster on the side of the entrance?  There looks to be writing at the top but I can't make it out.

Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:16 BST (UK)
Are those doorbells on the righthand side - entrance to flats? Is that a handkerchief in his breast pocket or it it a badge?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:25 BST (UK)
I have been trying o make out what is on the left side of the door too jool, it certainly looks like something is written at the top, but what is below is also a mystery. Is there any chance of a clearer image of this side, please  Spidermonkey.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:28 BST (UK)
It does look like a badge on his pocket Groom.  I wonder if it's some sort of "members only" club and he's the doorman. 
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:28 BST (UK)
It's obviously a hotel or a large pub with an off-sales outlet to the right of the door. 

Do you know anything about the man in the doorway?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:30 BST (UK)
Is it a gentlemans club  on Pall Mall?

Military man,  with a regimental badge on his blazer.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: jess5athome on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:33 BST (UK)
I wondered if the badge is some sort of military blazer badge, RAF or something, it looks like some kind of regimental insignia.

Frank.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:46 BST (UK)
I thought the writing said.  Lounge bar.

Mike
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: jess5athome on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:53 BST (UK)
I thought the writing said.  Lounge bar.

Mike



That's a good call, definitely a pub then.

Frank.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:55 BST (UK)
Could it be the Army and Navy club
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: mazi on Tuesday 30 August 16 22:15 BST (UK)
I thought the writing said.  Lounge bar.

Mike



That's a good call, definitely a pub then.

Frank.

Shades of a misspent youth, usually drank in the vaults.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Tuesday 30 August 16 22:42 BST (UK)
Aaahh, Lounge Bar, I can see it now. 

All this talk of pubs has forced me to steal one of O/H's beers from the fridge  ;D
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:14 BST (UK)
So we know it is a pub, with a lounge bar, at number 90 somewhere. Possibly with a doorman, although would a doorman have his hands in his pockets?  I wonder if it is a well known one, otherwise why take a photo?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:28 BST (UK)
I've been looking at the inscriptions below the bow window above the door.  I can clearly see AD in the one section, but does it read 97 in the other - if so maybe built in 1897.

Added: Sorry typo, changed it to 97
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:32 BST (UK)
It's not a very wide pavement is it - a side street rather than a main road?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:35 BST (UK)
It's not a very wide pavement is it - a side street rather than a main road?

Well spotted Groom, I hadn't thought of that.  See, we're getting closer already  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:41 BST (UK)
There is a heart on the section below the bow window, and also a heart on each of the small windows of the Off Sales.  I wonder if this is a clue to the name of the Pub - White Heart, Golden Heart etc.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 31 August 16 01:12 BST (UK)
A clue to where the photo was found in the 1st place would help possibly.

Did it belong to a family member or just random?

Was it with other photos which may hold a clue?

What era roughly (if known)?

Annie
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 31 August 16 09:41 BST (UK)
Looks like a picture of two palm trees below "Lounge Bar"
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 31 August 16 09:49 BST (UK)
A clue to where the photo was found in the 1st place would help possibly.

Did it belong to a family member or just random?

Was it with other photos which may hold a clue?

What era roughly (if known)?

Annie

Afraid it is a completely random, car boot sale find.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 31 August 16 12:37 BST (UK)
Could it be the Army and Navy club

Where? Do you have a place in mind?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:08 BST (UK)
It's not a very wide pavement is it - a side street rather than a main road?

Well spotted Groom, I hadn't thought of that.  See, we're getting closer already  ;D ;D

On the other hand, the road looks to be wide enough to have a white line in the middle - unless it's part of some other kind of marking.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:14 BST (UK)
It's not a very wide pavement is it - a side street rather than a main road?

Well spotted Groom, I hadn't thought of that.  See, we're getting closer already  ;D ;D

On the other hand, the road looks to be wide enough to have a white line in the middle - unless it's part of some other kind of marking.

Difficult to tell because of the state of the photo there.

It still seems odd to take a photo like that, the "doorman" doesn't seem to know it was being taken.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:27 BST (UK)
I doubt he was a doorman - he looks too casual, doesn't look as though he's "on duty".
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:30 BST (UK)
Is AD97 the year in which this building was built? And 90 (above the door) the road number?

"Off sales" - is that a Scottish term? or used in other parts of the UK as well?

I'm not great at fashion stuff but is that a 1940s outfit?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:36 BST (UK)
Is AD97 the year in which this building was built? And 90 (above the door) the road number?

"Off sales" - is that a Scottish term? or used in other parts of the UK as well?
Good point.   Off Sales  will probably help   to give a likely year.   Later  "Off Licence"    would be the  common term used.

I am going to guess   at circa 1950.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 31 August 16 17:16 BST (UK)
It almost looks to me like something from a paparazzo, or a police stake-out. Does anyone recognise the subject?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 31 August 16 17:39 BST (UK)
The panelling below the bow window - is that called wainscoting even though it's on the exterior?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Wednesday 31 August 16 17:56 BST (UK)
It almost looks to me like something from a paparazzo, or a police stake-out. Does anyone recognise the subject?

My very thought as well, like some thing from a film.

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.    Is AD97 the year in which this building was built? And 90 (above the door) the road number?
                             

Would have to be 1897 not AD97  ;D. I took it as 90 being the street number.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 31 August 16 18:04 BST (UK)
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Would have to be 1897 not AD97  ;D.

Too true!  ;D ;D  Though it does say AD!!
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 31 August 16 18:18 BST (UK)
Looks like a picture of two palm trees below "Lounge Bar"

Which was making me wonder if it's not Lounge but the name of the bar, Lagoon Bar or something like that.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: despair on Wednesday 31 August 16 18:46 BST (UK)
Unfortunately this doesn't help in the slightest,but that looks like an old GPO footway joint box manhole cover in the pavement!

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: John915 on Friday 02 September 16 12:44 BST (UK)
Good afternoon,

The gentleman is sporting a RE blazer badge, if he was the doorman he would get the sack standing there like that.

"OFF LICENCE"  refers to shops selling alchoholiday,   "OFF SALES" is the term used in pubs selling take outs outside of normal opening hours.

Two doorbells probably indicates one is for the pub and one for the flat above.

John915
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: barryd on Friday 02 September 16 13:23 BST (UK)
What purpose does the Aeriel near the window serve? What year?
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ScouseBoy on Friday 02 September 16 13:29 BST (UK)
What purpose does the Aeriel near the window serve? What year?
I think it is a bracket  for hanging  a pub type name sign on,  not an aerial.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Friday 02 September 16 13:30 BST (UK)

"OFF LICENCE"  refers to shops selling alchoholiday,   

I've never heard of an alcoholiday but it sounds like fun!
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: groom on Friday 02 September 16 13:34 BST (UK)
What purpose does the Aeriel near the window serve? What year?
I think it is a bracket  for hanging  a pub type name sign on,  not an aerial.

I agree, it doesn't look big enough for an aerial, especially early ones, they tended to be on the roof as well rather than the wall. Unless it's a radio aerial? If it is for hanging a pub sign what a pity it wasn't there!
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 02 September 16 14:01 BST (UK)

"OFF LICENCE"  refers to shops selling alchoholiday,   

I've never heard of an alcoholiday but it sounds like fun!

Can I put my name down for one and can you get one on the NHS?  ;D

Carol
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: ScouseBoy on Friday 02 September 16 14:15 BST (UK)
I have just been banned by my Off Licence,   I went in  and asked for a box of alcoholidays.    They thought  I was being rude and offensive so   they  have banned me from going in there  again.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: John915 on Friday 02 September 16 17:49 BST (UK)
Good afternoon,

I must stop using my tablet for doing this. It auto corrects so many things, I can'tell imagine why it doesn'the stop it. I don'the want to keep having to correct words just because I use the apostrophyear ' like this. Couldn'the understand it at first.

John915
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Saturday 03 September 16 00:24 BST (UK)
John, I think you need to stop using the tablet or stop taking the tablets  ;D ;D

I'll book myself on the alcoholiday too, it sounds like a fun Rootschat trip.

You made me laugh John  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: John915 on Saturday 03 September 16 00:33 BST (UK)
Good morning,

John, I think you need to stop using the tablet or stop taking the tablets  ;D ;D

I'll book myself on the alcoholiday too, it sounds like a fun Rootschat trip.

You made me laugh John  ;D ;)

Are you sure it was me made you laugh and not OHs beer?

If you look closely at the date under the window it says 1907 I think. Definitely a 1 partly under the 9, and looks like a 0 between the 9 and the 7.

John915
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Saturday 03 September 16 00:40 BST (UK)
Good morning,

John, I think you need to stop using the tablet or stop taking the tablets  ;D ;D

I'll book myself on the alcoholiday too, it sounds like a fun Rootschat trip.

You made me laugh John  ;D ;)

Are you sure it was me made you laugh and not OHs beer?

If you look closely at the date under the window it says 1907 I think. Definitely a 1 partly under the 9, and looks like a 0 between the 9 and the 7.

John915

Ahhh, I think OH's beer is stronger than I thought, you are correct - it is 1907.  Well spotted, I must stop drinking beer  ;D
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 03 September 16 01:29 BST (UK)
I have just been banned by my Off Licence,   I went in  and asked for a box of alcoholidays.    They thought  I was being rude and offensive so   they  have banned me from going in there  again.

Oh that's harsh, I wouldn't have banned you.
Yes, I work in an Off licence so every day is an alcoholiday.
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: trish18 on Wednesday 01 September 21 18:56 BST (UK)
It looks like this is The Stag Hotel, Lyndhurst, Hampshire. Good to see it’s still standing!

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Trish
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 01 September 21 19:02 BST (UK)
You've done it again  :D
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 01 September 21 19:24 BST (UK)
Brilliant  :) ;D 8)
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 01 September 21 19:27 BST (UK)
Trish18 - you are amazing!  I am so envious of your skills  :-*
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: trish18 on Wednesday 01 September 21 19:40 BST (UK)
Thanks but I have to admit that skill played no part in identifying the location! It was the number plaque over the door that gave it away. It looks like a stags head under the number so I just googled Stag Hotel and hey presto…..simples  ;D
Title: Re: Where is this? #14
Post by: Jool on Wednesday 01 September 21 20:10 BST (UK)
Trish, once again - Amazing  ;D