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Title: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: BAC3 on Thursday 08 September 16 21:23 BST (UK)
Hello,

Thomas SCAMMELL was born c1843 in Boldre, Hampshire, the son of Richard SCAMMELL and wife Jane (nee SMITH).   He had 5 brothers and sisters John (born 1824), Peter (1828), Ann (1831), William (1834) and Hannah (1837).   I am aware of his being for the 1851 Census and his attendance at the Philanthropic Society's School at Redhill on 04/01/1855.

I can find no further reference after the latter date and wonder if someone can help please ??? ???

Thank You,

BAC3
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 08 September 16 22:46 BST (UK)
Hi

What do you have for the rest of his family/siblings?

Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: BAC3 on Thursday 08 September 16 23:01 BST (UK)
Hello,

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what your question means.........the details given are the sum total of my knowledge of the family.

BAC3
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 08 September 16 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi

How did you identify this lot? [ and proved that they are who you want ]  . . . . . .

Thomas SCAMMELL was born c1843 in Boldre, Hampshire, the son of Richard SCAMMELL and wife Jane (nee SMITH).   He had 5 brothers and sisters John (born 1824), Peter (1828), Ann (1831), William (1834) and Hannah (1837).   I am aware of his being for the 1851 Census and his attendance at the Philanthropic Society's School at Redhill on 04/01/1855.

Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: BAC3 on Friday 09 September 16 14:10 BST (UK)

A Family Tree that grew only to 1851............!!!
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 09 September 16 14:27 BST (UK)
The 1851 census is a far better source than someone's Family Tree!

HO107/1666/222/12
Boldre, Hampshire

Scamel, Richard  Head  M  52  Ag Lab  b Hordle, Hampshire
Scamel, Jane  Wife  F  51  b Milton, Hants
Scamel, Peter  Son  M  23  b Boldre, Hants
Scamel, William  Son  M  16  b Boldre
Scamel, Thomas  Son  M  7  b Boldre
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 09 September 16 14:36 BST (UK)
Peter appears to be with his wife Amelia, and daughterElizabeth, and grandson Edward on the 1881 census?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q274-LLXQ
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: bearkat on Friday 09 September 16 14:42 BST (UK)
Thomas SCAMMEL was sentenced  for housebreaking - 15 years transportation 27 February 1854
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: BAC3 on Friday 09 September 16 14:47 BST (UK)
Hello,

My original request stated that I knew of Thomas SCAMMELL's whereabouts according to the 1851 England Census, which was cited in the Family Tree as source evidence!!

The 15 year transportation sentence was commuted and he was sent to the Philanthropic Society on 04/01/1855.

My quest for information is really post-1855.

For the moment,

BAC3
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 09 September 16 15:04 BST (UK)
Info re the Royal Philanthropic Society, and it's school at Redhill:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ift/

Records at Surrey History Centre.
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: BAC3 on Friday 09 September 16 16:22 BST (UK)
I had enquired of the SHC in respect of two other boys who were accepted by the Philanthropic Society on 04/01/1855..........they want at least £45 to reproduce photographic images (total 7 pages) that can be delivered by email.    I should add that the minimum charge for research services is £36 per hour and they reckoned that would have raised a £72 quotation!!!

I did not ask for a quotation for Thomas SCAMMELL as there is no way I can raise a mortgage at my age ::)   I thought RootsChat a far more pleasant method of approach.

For the moment,

BAC3
Title: Re: Hampshire: Thomas SCAMMELL, born 1843, Boldre, Hampshire
Post by: bearkat on Friday 09 September 16 16:36 BST (UK)
Try posting a request for someone to have a look for the records when they are visiting the SHC - there are some very kind Rootschatters.