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Title: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: tinkerbell5 on Friday 09 September 16 14:36 BST (UK)
Hello,

I'm looking for a baptism record of Phillip Wheatley. Through using Ancestry, other trees have stated he was born in 1734 in Lenton, Nottinghamshire. Unfortunately, none of these have any sources to state this being true.

His marriage was on 17 May 1744 in Attenborough to Elizabeth Hardy. The record states at the time that his abode was Beeston.

With regards to his death, Ancestry trees again, state was on 19 Jan 1777 in Lenton, Nottinghamshire. Still no sources to show whether this is true.

I wondered if anyone more skilled in Parish records could help me out a little? I find it unlikely that he was born in Lenton, moved to Beeston, and moved back again, but through years of researching, I've found anything is possible!

I looked for his wife's death record, which is apparently in 1765, registered in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire. At a total loss with this, if anyone can help I'd be really grateful!
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: madeira066 on Friday 09 September 16 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi tinkerbell5.
You state that Phillip was born in 1734 and that he married in 1744 that would mean he married at ten years of age. Something not right there.
Regards Dave.
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: madeira066 on Friday 09 September 16 16:16 BST (UK)
Hi tinkerbell5.
I cannot see a baptism for a Phillip Wheatley in Lenton Nottinghamshire but there is a marriage for a Philip Wheatley on Family Search in 1768 at Lenton Nottingham to a Ann Boughton. Could this possibly be the Phillip you are researching.
Dave.
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: tinkerbell5 on Friday 09 September 16 16:19 BST (UK)
Hi Dave,

Sorry, yes that is what others have stated on their trees, obviously it's not possible. I believe he would have been baptised in Beeston, and would have also died there. But I'm not 100% sure.

I believe he married Elizabeth, as she is also mentioned on his children's baptism records.

Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: garibaldired on Friday 09 September 16 16:35 BST (UK)
Looking at the Notts FHS baptism cd I couldn't find any baptism for Philip.
His marriage is on the Notts FHS marriage cd:
17 May 1744 Attenborough St Mary the Virgin Philip Wheatly to Elizabeth Hardy . No more information.

There are the following baptisms:
17 Feb 1745 John
12 Mar 1749 Jane
3 Apr 1751 Elizabeth
25 Nov 1753 Philip
4 Nov 1756 Jane
31 Mar 1758 Jos

all at Beeston St John.

And the following burials:
4 Dec 1752 Jane dau of Philip and Eliz    Beeston St John the Baptist
14 Dec 1752 Elizabeth dau of Philip and Eliz  Beeston St John the Baptist
7 Nov 1765 Elizabeth Wheatly wife of Philip    Lenton Priory
19 Jan 1777 Philip Wheatly  labourer        Lenton Priory
22 Dec 1815 Philip Wheatly  age 65         Lenton Priory

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: tinkerbell5 on Friday 09 September 16 16:37 BST (UK)
Hello,

Thanks for the info and records, I can add them to my tree!

Looks like a birth record for Phillip isn't really available.

Thank you both for helping. :)
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: sunflower on Friday 09 September 16 17:13 BST (UK)
There is a burial at Lenton 19.1. 1777 Philip Wheatley, Labourer

Carol

Edit - oops sorry just seen it's already been given
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: Annie65115 on Friday 09 September 16 20:20 BST (UK)
There's also a baptism at Lenton in 1778 for a Philip son of Philip and Elizabeth Wheatly. I'd guess that this Philip was the one baptised in 1753 and married Elizabeth Swann in Lenton in 1777.

Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: garibaldired on Friday 09 September 16 23:52 BST (UK)
On FamilySearch there's a possible baptism:

Phileph Wheatly  31 August 1720  kirk Hallam Derbyshire  Parents John Wheatly, Mary
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: tinkerbell5 on Saturday 10 September 16 01:15 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,

Thanks for all of your help, it's definitely worth adding to my tree and trying to link up the loose ends! :)
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: larkspur on Saturday 10 September 16 16:09 BST (UK)
Baptism Attenborough
11-4-1721 Elizabeth dau of John & Jane Hardy abode Chilwell.
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 11 September 16 13:34 BST (UK)
Possible Brother?

Michel WHEATLEY married Martha HARRISON, 8 May 1744, St John the Baptist, Beeston, Notts
They Baptised same Church;
MARTHA, 15 Mar 1746/47
SAMUEL, 27 Feb 1749/50
(FreeREG)

Aaah a Submitted Tree on Familysearch has;Parents JOHN/MARY, England
Parents JOHN/MARY
John Wheatley 1674-1728
Mary Wheatley 1678, nee BRADFIELD

Fits with Christening garibaldired found :)
Title: Re: Phillip Wheatley - Birth/Baptism and Death/Burial Records
Post by: tinkerbell5 on Friday 23 September 16 13:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info everyone, all seems to link in quite well! :)