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Title: Samuel haslock spouse Elizabeth bird sis robert bird who married Elizabeth Matth
Post by: benotis on Friday 09 September 16 21:28 BST (UK)
 john Charles haslock dad or brother married Elizabeth bird , sis of Robert bird manufacturer of Crewkerne somerset . R bird married Elizabeth matthews of castle cary in 1834 The same R bird pawnbrokers of long Acre partner sam haslock .my interest is in the Haslock family bird & matthews .Thank you every one who replyed to first questions .I havent worked out how to post new ques do I edited first one .any help woulde be appreciated
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: jim1 on Friday 09 September 16 22:02 BST (UK)
Hello & Welcome
Can you try again.
Can't understand much of this.
Where's Park South?
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: robo196 on Friday 09 September 16 22:07 BST (UK)
hi there looking at records Samuel haslock died 1853 in Chelsea cant find many records for parents if this is the same person you are interested in
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 09 September 16 22:19 BST (UK)
John Charles was b London c1809 and was a retired colonel in the East India service. Mary Ann was born in the East Indies, as were some of their older children, so I assume they married out there

1851 - 13, Park Place, Chelsea

Samuel Haslock    73 - b Hulliwell, Northamptonshire. Retired silversmith
Caroline Haslock    30 - daughter, b London
Letitia Stoodley    21 - servant

[only question - would a silversmith's son become a colonel?]

If this is the one, a possible baptism (with the caveat there is a 1799 burial of a person this name in this location - no age given)

Samuel Haslock
Baptism    6 Mar 1778, Guilsborough, Northamptonshire
Father:    John Haslock
Mother:    Ann Haslock
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 09 September 16 22:32 BST (UK)
Samuel in Chelsea is with an Elizabeth in 1841. John Charles is the son of  a Samuel and Elizabeth, so the link is looking possible.

This could well be the parents' marriage, given John Charles and Marianne (as she is sometimes recorded) have a son John Bird Haslock

Samuel Haslock
Elizabeth Bird
4 Jan 1805, St Michael Bassishaw, City of London

sadly no parents listed
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 09 September 16 22:39 BST (UK)
Retired silversmith might be a bit of a exaggeration. there's a Samuel Haslock, pawnbroker of Long Acre Covent garden, who appears as a witness in several Old Bailey court cases in the 1820s and 1830s. In some he is said to be in business with a Mr Bird
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: bevj on Saturday 10 September 16 14:19 BST (UK)
Marriage in India?

Name            John Charles Haslock
Spouse's Name    M. Kadwell Earle
Event Date    01 Jan 1842
Event Place    Kurnaul, Bengal, India

There's a Samuel Hadlock with wife Elizabeth who appear to be the right couple in 1841 in Middlesex, he born in county aged 60-64.

Bev
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 10 September 16 14:36 BST (UK)
WILLIAM HENRY SHADWELL Earle Bapt 10 December 1824, Bengal, India
Father WILLIAM HENRY Earle
(Familysearch.Org Extracted Record)

Familysearch has a Submitted Entry;
MARY ANNE SHADWELL Earle Christened15 March 1822, Agra, India
Parents;
WILLIAM HENRY Earle , born 1798 Devon died 1846 India
Jane SHADWELL, Father John Agustus Shadwell , Lt.Col.
William/Jane married 12 February 1821, Meerut, India
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 10 September 16 14:46 BST (UK)
http://anglofamilytrees.com/earle_family_tree.htm

Jane SHADWELL Christened 21 April 1808, Cawnpore, Bengal, India
Birth 5 Sept 1805
Father JOHN Shadwell
(Extracted Record F/S.Org)

Jane remarried;
Extracted Record F/S.Org
Marriage;
24 Jan 1848, Allahabad, Bengal, India
Jane EARLE, Father John Augustus SHADWELL
John GREIG, Father John GREIG
Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 10 September 16 15:00 BST (UK)
Some detailed work has already been done on this family as part of another thread ...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=472974.msg3373693#msg3373693

Title: Re: haslock shadwell
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 10 September 16 15:07 BST (UK)
Looks like Jane lived to a good age;

1881 lodging in Cheltenham. Glous we have;
John GREIG 77, Mar, Inspector General of Hospitals Indian Army Retired (Army), born Midlothian, Scotland
JANE Greig, 74, Mar, born Bengal, East Indies******** 

Death Reg for Jane GREIG 1886 Cheltenham age 80 (1806) and John Grieg 1883 age 79 (1804)
Title: Re: Samuel haslock spouse Elizabeth bird sis robert bird who married Elizabeth Matth
Post by: benotis on Sunday 11 September 16 20:10 BST (UK)
yes the same samuel haslock park south .Thanks
Samuel in Chelsea is with an Elizabeth in 1841. John Charles is the son of  a Samuel and Elizabeth, so the link is looking possible.

This could well be the parents' marriage, given John Charles and Marianne (as she is sometimes recorded) have a son John Bird Haslock

Samuel Haslock
Elizabeth Bird
4 Jan 1805, St Michael Bassishaw, City of London

sadly no parents listed
Title: Re: Samuel haslock spouse Elizabeth bird sis robert bird who married Elizabeth Matth
Post by: benotis on Sunday 02 October 16 23:26 BST (UK)
yes there seems to be 2  Samuel haslocks in 1830s are they brothers
Title: Re: Samuel haslock spouse Elizabeth bird sis robert bird who married Elizabeth Matth
Post by: benotis on Sunday 02 October 16 23:28 BST (UK)
john Charles haslock dad or brother married Elizabeth bird , sis of Robert bird manufacturer of Crewkerne somerset . R bird married Elizabeth matthews of castle cary in 1834 The same R bird pawnbrokers of long Acre partner sam haslock .my interest is in the Haslock family bird & matthews .Thank you every one who replyed to first questions .I havent worked out how to post new ques do I edited first one .any help woulde be appreciated