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Title: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Friday 09 September 16 22:13 BST (UK)
Looking for an info on James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland

He is the son of

Donald Clark (Schoolmaster in Petty)

1785–1853
 
Jane Campbell

1789–1869

I know he was baptized 18 May 1809 in Petty but then he seems to be gone.  Nothing in 1841 census. Nothing on FreeCEN.

Others in the family came to Canada as early as 1833 so he may have headed here.   There are several entries for arrivals with the name James Clark and approximate birth year but nothing definitive.

Thanks
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 09 September 16 22:15 BST (UK)
Do you have any proof that he survived infancy?
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Friday 09 September 16 22:17 BST (UK)
Nothing to indicate he survived infancy.  No death record so far but wondered if he perished as an infant
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 09 September 16 22:23 BST (UK)
Could be the likeliest explanation
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Saturday 08 October 16 16:31 BST (UK)
The 1841 Census has at least one James Clark.  One listed as a contractor in Kingussie & Insh -Inverness-shire with a spouse Mary.  Will have to dig into that possible lead.  Would Kingussie  be a long way for someone to move in 1840-1850 era?

So far no sign of a death that looks close at Scotland's People.  One child of 6 but birth year way off. One adult 82 but again birth year way off.  Looking in Canada but nothing conclusive.  Ships records have several James Clarks but details are lacking.  Simply a name and arrival year.  Possibly access to the microfilms would help.  Not sure how accessible those films are.  Trip to research room at local library needed
 
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Monday 24 April 17 23:18 BST (UK)
Found a possible death record in 1817 but hard to decipher writing.   Appears to be  James Clark but the rest of line is hard to make out  Death is in Petty but...
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 April 17 23:25 BST (UK)
The word in brackets is Adjutant then son to C C ??Lag??.  The 43 may be an age at death but I think the Adjutant would suggest it was an adult death
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Sunday 12 November 17 18:36 GMT (UK)
I have found a James Clark born in Scotland with same birth year in the 1851 Canada census.  He is a farmer in Gloucester, Carleton County, Ontario.  Near Ottawa Ontario.

He has a wife Agnes born Scotland about 1808 and there are five children all born in Canada.  I have been unable to find a marriage in Canada. Have yet to find a marriage of a James Clark to and Agnes ? in Scotland.

The family does not seem to be in the same spot in 1861 or 1871.  However, there seems to be a number of James Clarks born around the same year 1808-11 in various census documents but images are missing in the database so unable to see the household.
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Friday 15 January 21 22:07 GMT (UK)
I found a burial for a James Clark in Michigan.  Lists a spouse Elizabeth Allardyce 1809–1875

I also find a marriage 14 Jun 1836 Rhynie and Essie, Aberdeen, Scotland.  Would the marriage in Aberdeen be unusual given we know James was from Petty, Inverness?

We know a brother Thomas was in Michigan but further north and after the death of the James Clark in the cemetery records.

There does not seem to be a death record that might confirm parents.

Children
   
James Clark Jr 1839–1843
   
William H. Clark 1840–1901

Isabella May Clark 1842–1918

Elizabeth Clark Jamieson 1844–1913

Alexander Clark 1846–1846

Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 15 January 21 23:53 GMT (UK)
I also find a marriage 14 Jun 1836 Rhynie and Essie, Aberdeen, Scotland.  Would the marriage in Aberdeen be unusual given we know James was from Petty, Inverness?
A bit unusual, maybe. But it was customary to marry in the bride's home if possible, and Rhynie and Essie is on the west end of the county of Aberdeen, about as far west of Aberdeen as it's possible to get and still be in the County of Aberdeen.
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Sunday 24 January 21 18:21 GMT (UK)
I found an online record without an image for a marriage

James Clark and Ann Fraser 17/09/1827 in Inverness.  No mention of source and no image.   Age seems in right range

Using that info on Ancestry finds the marriage but no image.  Possibly this was what other post was referencing.  Image held by Ancestry only available at their locations which are closed.

No sign of a James Clark and spouse Ann in 1841 Scotland Census.  Possible they headed to Canada as Brother William arrived in 1833 and Thomas was in Canada by 1834 .  No sign of him or a wife on 1851Canada Census.  James and spouse Agnes and family
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 24 January 21 20:32 GMT (UK)
The only source will be Scotlands People. You can view the image online there. They do show it on their index.

Family Search do sometimes make these records available via microfilm at their centres worldwide. I would imagine these are closed at present.

Monica
Title: Re: James Clark Birth 14 MAY 1809 Petty,Inverness,Scotland
Post by: mcadamsd on Monday 18 September 23 19:38 BST (UK)
Still doing some digging but found a death for James Clark 9 JULY 1875  Duke Street, Glasgow and document names parents as Donald Clark, Schoolmaster, deceased and Jane Campbell, deceased.  Occupation watchmaker.

It names his spouse as a Sarah Chesterton, deceased.    She passed 16 JUL 1874  29 Fountainbridge, Edinburgh and James was informant.  Notes he is a watchmaker

I found James and Sarah in England in 1851 Newcastle upon Tyne and he is a watchmaker born Scotland.  She was born London about 1805 according to that document.  They have a son Daniel born about 1842 in Durham England.  Son Daniel marries in 1862 and  is a journeyman watchmaker in Edinburgh.

No luck with a marriage for James and Sarah in England or Scotland